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Nov 30, 2019 19:51:11 GMT
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Oh FFS. That sucks.
For what it’s worth I’d not be claiming. A bodyshop wouldn't charge too much to make that tidier and you’d not have to deal with it being written off.
But that’s just me. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Nov 30, 2019 20:29:20 GMT
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Tell the insurance company you want it repaired Be firm.....I detest car insurance companies....all of them! Just stick to your guns and don’t let them take it anywhere unless they agree to repair it, and don’t be fooled by the assessor won’t come to your home, they all try that one!
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Nov 30, 2019 21:06:00 GMT
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Yeah as above, that’s rubbish... but at least they left details.
I’d go and speak to Bodyshop, if you are happy get a quote and then speak to Tesco insurance company direct, tell them you have a quote and know where it is going to be fixed (they will try to fob you off, and tell you you’ve got to take it to their approved repairer... but you don’t)
If you aren’t happy with the Bodyshop you can go to another... it’s a bit more time and effort for you, but you’ll have more confidence that it’s being done right. And if they say that they won’t be able to get bits etc, you are still in control
Good luck
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Nov 30, 2019 22:25:02 GMT
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Glad it looks quite repairable rather than replacing exotic parts.. Do you want to pay for extra work when the paints mixed?
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Nov 30, 2019 22:38:29 GMT
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Sorry to see the damage, such a cool car.
Can I ask who did the powder coating for you. I work in Birmingham and a recommendation is always good.
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Thanks all It's particularly annoying because I'd been uhmming and ahhing about possibly selling the car as is and getting something else in the new year, but now it's looking like I'm going to have to get this damaged sorted one way or another.. 79cord The thought had crossed my mind to be honest. As part of trying to weigh up whether to sell the car or keep it, one thing I know that needs tackling if I keep it are the rust issues (and the bumpers and bonnet have lacquer peel) so there is certainly other work that could be sorted on the car at the same time. Main issue is just the cost of getting it all done, and it's a car I've not quite bonded to enough to just throw money at it The other thing about all of this is that I've never actually had one of my cars hit before so all this having to deal with insurance companies is new territory for me and it certainly seems like a bit of a minefield! The guy had a little proforma sheet to fill out (I guess their delivery vans hitting things happens enough to warrant it..) which suggests that their insurance people will be in contact with me soon, I just need to get myself clear on what I want from them when that call does come.. I don't really want the car to be written off and I don't want my NCB affected, but neither of those should happen if its all on their insurance to fix it, right?... dandam powder coating was done by www.citywheelrefurbishment.co.uk/ I've used them for a couple wheels now and been fairly happy. I wouldn't say they're perfect, they seem to really lay on the coat, but they will try to avoid coating areas where requested (they didn't coat around the underside edges of my centre caps so they fit on the wheels better). They are very reasonably priced though so I'd happily take more wheels back there again
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That is seriously bad luck! Supermarket delivery wagons seem a bit of a liability as i notice they rush round with not much care.
I too despise insurance companies and don't think they are regulated enough. Too much of a cartel and provide legalized gambling.
As others have said, stand your ground and try not to fall for their excuses and ways of doing things. Not easy i know when you haven't been through this before. Also be very careful who you talk to when dealing with the insurance companies. Alot of 3rd party people seem to get your details and twist things round and in my opinion this is fraud.
Get quotes from your own bodyshops and try to deal with the same people at the insurance companies. Oh, and record everything. Date, time, who said what.
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That is seriously bad luck! Supermarket delivery wagons seem a bit of a liability as i notice they rush round with not much care. I too despise insurance companies and don't think they are regulated enough. Too much of a cartel and provide legalized gambling. As others have said, stand your ground and try not to fall for their excuses and ways of doing things. Not easy i know when you haven't been through this before. Also be very careful who you talk to when dealing with the insurance companies. Alot of 3rd party people seem to get your details and twist things round and in my opinion this is fraud. Get quotes from your own bodyshops and try to deal with the same people at the insurance companies. Oh, and record everything. Date, time, who said what. Thanks for the advice, luckily it seems as though the Tesco van damage is getting fixed, they haven't really quibbled anything, so fingers crossed that will be straightforward.. The second lot of damage has needed a bit more investigative work on my part. My initial suspicion was that a bus had caught it as it's a fairly tight bend in my road and I saw one getting close. Contacted the bus company (who were actually pretty helpful) and they've confirmed it wasn't a bus that hit, but a white car (hence the white marks on my rear arch) unfortunately the driver couldn't remember the make or reg but they're downloading the CCTV to see if it shows the car. I need to get the police involved though because data protection etc. The bus company can't give me the CCTV directly. So that's my next job. If I can at least get a make/model of car, I could take a walk round the neighborhood and see if I can spot anything with a bit of Bourdeaux Red on its nearside... At the moment it's just the faff of getting it all sorted thats the most annoying thing. (Also the fact that the white car has damaged the rubbing strips on the side of mine which will almost certainly be discontinued by Honda). I think if I do track the driver of the white car down, and they want to go through insurance, that will be more difficult to deal with than the Tesco people. Anyway. Aside from all this curse word, I do have a little semi-related update, but it can wait till a bit later
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This is where Data Protection doesn't work. I know the shop my misses works in, couldn't give out cctv to a crash outside their front door due to DP. Absolute madness.
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Dec 14, 2019 15:54:57 GMT
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Bit of an update, car has now gone off for repair of the Tesco van damage so we'll see how that turns out. I've been given a VW Sharan as a hire car which isn't quite what I was expecting but was handy for buying a new sofa from IKEA... I wasn't quite so lucky with the other damage. Called 101 to get advice from the police/report the incident, they suggested I go to my local station, went there and they basically weren't interested, suggested I go to my insurance company... If I were to do that, it would likely cost me something in the long run, even if the other car couldn't be identified from the CCTV, so I'll have to suck that one up. Really does annoy me that someone could drive into a parked car and just drive off though, if I had caught them in the act, there would have been some choice words! Anyway, other semi-related news. I've sold the Advans as I was never really fully set on them and it was more about the mini-project to bring them back to a good condition. I have however been looking around and came across these Very rare RAYS Mazdaspeed MS-01 2 piece Split rims. They're in worse condition than the Advans were and are sadly missing the centre caps, but I got them for a good price and they should come up nicely. Again these will be a mini-project, so I could in theory run them on the Legend when they're done, or I'll sell them on as I've still got the RAYS CV Pro's (which also need a little work) Should get the car back in a week, so will have an update then
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If bus company can't give you CCTV info, could they be bothered to give/report anything they found there direct to the police & inform you they have done so in case the police couldn't be bothered acting upon it themselves? At least then you might know it there was anything worth speaking to insurance about.
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Last Edit: Dec 15, 2019 1:09:04 GMT by 79cord
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Dec 16, 2019 12:40:48 GMT
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Glad things are moving forward a little for you.
I know its not easy but i would try to go back to the police and put a bit of pressure on them. You have done all the hard work by contacting the bus company and they have been helpful and said they have some cctv footage showing a van. If the police can't even be bothered when evidence is presented on a plate to them then it needs complaining about.
Also, if they told you to go through your insurance then likely you will have the same issue. I have heard insurance companies also struggle with data protection. They share info from insurance company to another insurance company when there is a case between them, but they do not have the power to get evidence from third party people to raise a case against someone and their vehicle in the first place. Again they would require the police to obtain it for them. This is partly their fault for the industry acting fraudulently in some instances so nobody trusts them anymore.
I would go back to the police and ask them to pursue the footage the bus company says they have, not necessarily from a prosecuting point of view, but you need to know if any information can be gained in order to raise a case with your insurers or not.
All this cctv these days and the argument of whether its morally correct or not, yet when Joe Public needs it for something useful, it cant be used.
Good luck!
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Dec 16, 2019 13:35:45 GMT
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Dec 16, 2019 18:55:29 GMT
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79cord toast00 jamesd1972 I agree with all of you. To be honest, when I came out of the police station, I did feel a bit like I'd been fobbed off and should have stood my ground more, and I know if I don't go back and chase it up, when I do go to get the second lot of damage repaired, it will make the cost all the more hard to swallow. While the first lot of damage is getting sorted now (and the Sharan which smelled like an ashtray has now just been replaced with a rather nice Skoda Superb) it has been a lot of effort and chasing up just to get to this point! And that was with someone who actually stopped, left details and admitted fault! Think I've had to talk to 4 or so different companies to get the damage repaired, booked in, hire car sorted, its a right faff. I've got a couple days off later this week, so I may make another trip to the Police Station and see if I can talk to someone more helpful. As you all rightly say, it shouldn't take them much to ask the Bus company for the CCTV (I pretty much did that bit for them already), watch it and ascertain if the reg plate of the car that did it can be read. So yeah, thank you all for giving me the nudge to keep on challenging it
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Dec 16, 2019 19:52:34 GMT
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if you don't get any joy after reminding them that you are the victim of a crime , then its time to up the ante and go straight to the top. you should find the direct email for your local chief constable here.... ceoemail.com/uk-police-chiefs.php ive had lots of success over the years cutting out to monkeys and going to the top banana (admittedly companies not police). they tend not to like being bothered with stuff that underlings should be dealing with!
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Dec 16, 2019 20:13:48 GMT
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Good luck at the nick but for a damage only RTC you won't get much of a response. If lucky you'll get a neighbourhood PCSO or bobby to look into it with the other 50 local jobs already on their plate so you won't be top of the pile.
Keep calm and remind them that under the Road Traffic act anyone involved in an accident (and this meets the definition) is required to exchange details with the other person. Explain the Bus company have video/CCTV so can provide evidence of the vehicle involved. Report it (and take you insurance mot and D/L if you haven't shown them already) and ask for an incident number.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Dec 19, 2019 20:43:32 GMT
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A positive update! Was driving home from work yesterday when I got a call to say the car was ready! Went round to the bodyshop to check it out and take it home. The area damaged by the Tesco van looks perfect now, or at least it did by the torch light of my phone in the rainy night! As part of repairing this, they had to paint the top part of the rear bumper which handily fixed an area of lacquer peel that needed sorting anyway. Another added bonus is that they seem to have repaired some of the damage caused by the second, unknown car also. I've taken some rubbish photos The only damage I can really see are the two scratches on the door and a scuff on the mirror. So I'm not going to bother continuing to chase it up with the Police because its not going to be worth my time. Seeing and driving the car again has given me a bit of a push to make some progress on it again. So today I was getting tyres taken off some of my Rays CV Pro alloys I got the tyres off the 7j wide ones that have one cracked barrel, and I got the tyres off the 9.5j ones I've had in storage. The 9.5j's had 255 width tyres that were too wide for the Legend, and the centres are obviously the wrong colour! So I'll split them all down and rebuild the 9.5's with the Gold centres, then I'll get some 235 width tyres which should work a lot better. The next pressing job is to reseal the rear window trim as the boot isn't currently watertight. Then before long I'll need to get it booked in to have the rusty rear arches repaired
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Time for a New Years update on the Legend, not a whole lot has changed.. I put plenty of miles on it over the festive period seeing family and it just continued to prove what an ideal mile muncher of a car it is. Rather typically I haven't tackled the boot leak yet as it is a bit of a faff to get the rear screen trim off and on. I have made some progress on the Rays CV splits Here you can see one of the 9.5" wheels split into its components Knock the centre out of the 7.5" wheels And you end up with a pair of 7.5s with grey centres loosely fitted to go in storage, and a pair of 9.5s with gold centres waiting for me to put all the bolts in, torque them and seal them up With the tyre off, you can clearly see the crack on the barrel of one of the 7.5" wheels Now, if I can go off on a bit of a JDM wheel nerd tangent for a second. The wheels above are Rays Volk Racing CV Pro 3 Piece Splits, but there were other variants of these wheels made as well. One of which is the Volk Racing C Europe, which is essentially a 1 piece version of the same wheel. I came across a pair for sale for a very reasonable price locally so naturally I ended up buying them They're a 4/5x114.3 multi PCD wheel which always looks a bit dodgy but is fairly common on Japanese aftermarket wheels of the period. I actually bought them to trial on my MGB to see how a 17x8 wheel would fit with the Sebring arches I plan to fit. I recently found another pair of 17x9 C Europe, so now I've got a full staggered set They probably won't find their way onto the Legend, but gives another option. I did get some parts for the Legend however, took a trip to a local scrapyard, where there was a CL7 shape Accord. Now, the Legend has proved to be pretty rubbish car for interchangeability with other Honda products, but I'd been doing some reading online and it seems that some of the Acura guys in the US have been running TSX(Accord) coilovers on their Legends using some TSX(Accord) parts. The reason for doing this is that for one, the car isn't "quite" as low as I'd like on the lowering springs, and secondly, the coilovers available for Accords are much cheaper than for Legends. The bit I needed from the Accord was the Front strut fork as the Legend strut seems to be a different diameter to all other Hondas Undo the bottom nut and bolt which holds it to the lower arm, undo the pinch bolt to remove the strut and away they come. I've not ordered any coilovers yet, currently focusing on MGB spend, and also deciding how cheap I'm going to go on the coilovers to get the lows but handy parts to have for when the time comes.
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Jan 15, 2020 21:09:11 GMT
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Gutted to see the damage caused by the hit and run but glad you managed to get most of it fixed despite the lack of help. Can you park in a different place in future or are you obliged to use the same stretch.
I have no idea how much the coilovers are your considering but might be worth giving GAZ a call they did mine from a drawing but you could send them one of your originals for a plan, they can make them with spring seat adjustment to any basic or adjustable spec you want, its a similar set up to an 800. 2.25" springs can be bought pretty cheaply too.
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