adam73bgt
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Jan 21, 2019 19:39:11 GMT
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Just been out to try the code reader technique, pretty neat and it works! The plug was hiding away beneath the passenger side carpet under the glovebox. Plugged my paper clip in, and if I was interpreting the ABS light flashes correctly I've got code number 1: ABS Pump Motor Over-run The site that lists the fault codes, also handily links to pdf's of the workshop manual so theres a little flow chart process for me to work my way through to work out whats the root cause of my issue, but I can't be bothered to start on that tonight
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ChasR
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Jan 21, 2019 20:36:44 GMT
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Ah, you did mention this! A nice buy indeed! So, can we expect to see this at Caffeine and Machine? .
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adam73bgt
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Jan 21, 2019 21:03:12 GMT
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Ah, you did mention this! A nice buy indeed! So, can we expect to see this at Caffeine and Machine? . All being well, it should be there
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adam73bgt
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Jan 23, 2019 23:10:32 GMT
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Dropped the car off at the garage after work today ready for its cam belt, water pump and tensioner swap tomorrow. Hopefully it should be back with me tomorrow evening I did notice as I pulled into the garage that both the passenger front and side repeater indicators had blown.. I'm hoping this is a coincidence of both bulbs going at once, rather than a wiring issue! Also had these arrive Possibly one of the last pairs of new genuine Honda 2nd Gen Legend front discs in Europe haha, have got the front and rear discs and pads now so once I get those fitted, the slight brake judder the car has should go away. I'll also flush the system through with fresh DOT4 fluid and give the sliders a bit of a grease too
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jamesd1972
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Jan 24, 2019 10:26:50 GMT
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You going to measure the old disks to see if they will take a skim for future use ? My experience of discs on various Hondas is that they tend to get a touch of runout after a couple of thousand miles and then annoy again. Route cause is apparently that modern discs aren’t always heat treated as well as they could be. Make sure hubs etc. Spotless too, I think the geometry might make it feel worse ? Don’t know just thoughts. James
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Jan 24, 2019 12:40:35 GMT
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Nice find, barge-y 90’s Hondas look really smart. The colour is much more interesting than black, it might’ve looked a bit bland in a non-colour.
Sorry if I’m giving you bad ideas, but an airride kit would be really suited. No need to lower it to the ground and beyond, but a subtle adjustable drop would make it stand out without being too much.
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adam73bgt
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Jan 24, 2019 18:14:03 GMT
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jamesd1972 To be honest I hadn't really considered it, might be worth checking to see if they're worth keeping as spares but more often than not I just chuck old discs regardless.. I'll definitely be making sure the hubs are clean as well as the calipers and stuff. The tyres probably aren't helping much, think they're a bit old and at least one has a slow puncture, so wouldn't surprise me if the balancing was a bit off either! Thanks Clement I know what you mean, on other cars this sort of burgundy red wouldn't be my first choice but it suits here I think. I think it would definitely suit air ride but it won't be happening on my watch any time soon I might.. might.. consider some 30mm lowering springs as they can be had for not a lot, also I need to see what it looks like on a slightly bigger wheel than the standard 16s... Well I was meant to have the car back today but there was a bit of a delay with getting the cam belt job finished as apparently the radiator has a small leak! I'm sure it was dry when I went to view it, although there might have been a bit of dried coolant residue.. In any case its driven nice and cool since I've had it. Rather than have the garage fit a new radiator (they're a bit pricey...) I found a new one being sold on ebay for a bit under 90 quid and I'll get it fitted asap so I won't have to worry about that
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adam73bgt
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Jan 27, 2019 17:48:18 GMT
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I did notice as I pulled into the garage that both the passenger front and side repeater indicators had blown.. I'm hoping this is a coincidence of both bulbs going at once, rather than a wiring issue! Well it doesn't seem I was so lucky.. After picking up the car from the garage, the indicators on both sides packed up and the hazards don't work either. I think a duff flasher relay is to blame, just a case of locating it! The cam belt swap is all done though, the old one didn't look too bad but some micro cracks were starting to form so was definitely worth doing after all the years it had been on there! Water Pump and tensioner were done at the same time as a matter of course. Now that I've got the car back, today was spent trying to fit some of the Brakes bits that have been sat in my living room, not a huge amount of pics as its a messy job and it was bloody cold and windy today! Started off with one of the fronts Which was fairly straightforward save for one of the disc retention screws needing drilling out! The pistons and sliders seemed smooth, so I gave the slidy bits a bit of a clean up and grease, and put the new pads and disc in there. The pads that came out had some life left in them although when I got round to the drivers front, the inside pad had worn oddly with the disc, you can see in the below pics I took later that theres a lot of rust on what should be the rubbing path So they're destined for the bin I also hung one of the CV Pro's I have on there, the tyres on the standard front wheels are nearly shot and the two narrowest CV Pro's (7.5", the standard wheels are 6.5" I think) have practically brand new tyres on them With the standard wheels being about et60 or so, internal clearances are fine, and the wheels aren't wide enough to trouble the arch. I need to get a puncture in one of the CV Pro's sorted, then I'll chuck them on the front. I moved to one of the rear brakes next Before I started, I had a look at the rear suspension, its quite a complex looking system with lots of links like the smaller independent suspension Hondas I've seen pics of before Unfortunately theres a lot of surface crust going on, and the bushes don't look too much longer for this world.. Need to find out if any of the bushes are particularly reasonable or easy to find for sale and I might do a bit of a suspension refresh (especially if I get tempted by some 30mm springs at some point...) So anyway, went to undo the slide pin bolts on the caliper and one is basically rounded off, so thats a job for another day once I've bought a replacement bolt. To console myself over not being able to fit the rear brakes today, I chucked on the spare pair of Rays Volk Touring Evolution Fortesst's I've had kicking about As with the fronts, the super high offset of the standard wheels means that clearance to suspension or caliper is not an issue, these are 9" wide wheels but still fit nicely in line with the arch. The slightly stretched tyres (I know I know) and high ride height help here Comparison of the new and old wheels After this, I spun the car round and finished off by doing the drivers front disc, there was a little drama with this as it appeared the old disc wasn't going to come off, thankfully Honda left a couple threaded holes in the disc so you can put a couple bolts in and pop the disc off And to finish, a hilarious, fresh off the jack pic. I think it could do with those 30mm springs regardless of standard or aftermarket wheels All in good time hopefully
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Jan 27, 2019 18:16:58 GMT
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Love it. Best colour and the right wheels too. Lovely looking thing.
When I was a student 12 years ago I bought one of these with 180,000 miles on it as a last minute emergency car. Paid £200, put a new tyre on it and drove it all over Europe for the next four weeks. It was grey and had been owned from new by a guy who used it to get to his holiday home in France.
Loved it so much I kept it for another year and then swapped it with a mate for his Prelude.
You can tell Honda really put everything they had into them when they were made. Really wonderfully engineered car. Same basic engine block as the NSX if I recall correctly. Do your door closers and seatbelt presenters still work?
The gearbox gave up the ghost on ours in the end. I'd suggest using Honda fluid only on yours and probably doing it again in a few months if it hasn't been done in a while.
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adam73bgt
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Jan 27, 2019 18:31:48 GMT
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Love it. Best colour and the right wheels too. Lovely looking thing. When I was a student 12 years ago I bought one of these with 180,000 miles on it as a last minute emergency car. Paid £200, put a new tyre on it and drove it all over Europe for the next four weeks. It was grey and had been owned from new by a guy who used it to get to his holiday home in France. Loved it so much I kept it for another year and then swapped it with a mate for his Prelude. You can tell Honda really put everything they had into them when they were made. Really wonderfully engineered car. Same basic engine block as the NSX if I recall correctly. Do your door closers and seatbelt presenters still work? The gearbox gave up the ghost on ours in the end. I'd suggest using Honda fluid only on yours and probably doing it again in a few months if it hasn't been done in a while. Thank you They certainly do feel a well put together car Yes the door closers and seatbelt presenters do still work and are a source of much amusement I love little touches like that Yeah I will certainly be flushing through the auto box fluid (and engine oil and brake fluid too). The guys on the Acura Legend forum seem to favour a 3 fluid approach, flushing through with a Ford fluid, then Dexron, then finally finishing with the proper Honda stuff
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79cord
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Nice as they are & despite their size advantage, the alternative wheels still make me appreciate the original wheels for their substantial simplicity befitting the VIP look, especially with the Machined/Diamond cut finish for extra bling. Need dark red "H" detail.
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adam73bgt
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Jan 28, 2019 10:00:26 GMT
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Nice as they are & despite their size advantage, the alternative wheels still make me appreciate the original wheels for their substantial simplicity befitting the VIP look, especially with the Machined/Diamond cut finish for extra bling. Need dark red "H" detail. Aye I'm not totally against the original wheels, I'll probably get them re-powdercoated as they're suffering from corrosion at the moment, I'm not sure how I feel about them when they're diamond cut haha. At the least it's a fair bit of upkeep to keep them looking good if going down that route
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Jan 28, 2019 10:19:53 GMT
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Very nice! Does yours have the Type II/higher output C32? All but the very earliest of the US spec coupes had it. I remember my dad test driving one of these when they were new (or nearly new, this was the early/mid 90s) when he was looking to potentially replace his Integra (now mine), but he felt it was a bit too soft despite it being a manual transmission. Regarding parts availability, I'd recommend looking in the US, since most of these ended up here. RockAuto is usually my go-to place if I don't need something immediately.
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adam73bgt
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Jan 28, 2019 14:45:20 GMT
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Very nice! Does yours have the Type II/higher output C32? All but the very earliest of the US spec coupes had it. I remember my dad test driving one of these when they were new (or nearly new, this was the early/mid 90s) when he was looking to potentially replace his Integra (now mine), but he felt it was a bit too soft despite it being a manual transmission. Regarding parts availability, I'd recommend looking in the US, since most of these ended up here. RockAuto is usually my go-to place if I don't need something immediately. I think it's a type I, at least it doesn't have the marking on the intake manifold that type II's seem to have. There seem to be more manuals in the US (not sure if we have any here) to be honest I can't really see it being a car that would particularly suit a manual gearbox, you can hustle it along but it's certainly no integra! Cheers for the tip, I'd seen rock auto mentioned the other day, had a quick look and they seem to be very reasonably priced for a lot of things (cambelt kit was much less than I paid!!) I think at some point I'll have to look at refreshing the suspension a bit, I may order some stuff from them for that
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This thread is really making me miss my old one. Could you please remind me what rpm it does in top at either 60/70 mph? Just wondering whether I can justify another one for long journeys.. Also: another vote for renewing the oe wheels in someway although I do like the gold 5 spokes
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adam73bgt
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This thread is really making me miss my old one. Could you please remind me what rpm it does in top at either 60/70 mph? Just wondering whether I can justify another one for long journeys.. Also: another vote for renewing the oe wheels in someway although I do like the gold 5 spokes Aha just went for a quick drive and it seems you're looking at 2500rpm-2750rpm at 60-70mph respectively, cruise control too, perfect for long journeys While I'm here, lets have a little update Hadn't been using the car because of the lack of indicators, tracking down a suitable flasher relay proved a bit of a pain as they're not a particularly standard fit item.. Ordered one from RockAuto in the states, fitted it and all is well again Had a look inside the old one out of curiosity, yep thats definitely got hot! I've started digging into the passenger side of the car to try and get to the heater fan resistor Thats the view with the glovebox out, the item on the right is the heater matrix and on the left is the blower motor, its not hugely clear in the factory manual I've got but I think I need to remove the blower motor and I should be able to see the resistor on the heater matrix housing... I've then got a plan for the resistor which I'm hoping will work.. I've had some parts delivered in the form of some rear caliper slider pins with bolts to replace the rounded one on the nearside rear caliper (still need to work out how to get the old bolt out...) And a nice new radiator Fitting the radiator will give me a chance to get a look at the AC condensor and pipework to see if there are going to be any obvious obstacles to getting that working
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adam73bgt
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Cold weather still hampers my progress (weak excuse I know ) but making some inroads I got the front wheels off the Legend, and have chucked on two of my CV Pro's for now, I'm using the 8" ones rather than the 7.5" ones I would have preferred as one of the 7.5s needs splitting and re-sealing The 8's on the front and 9's on the back are too wide really but they're working for the time being. Annoyingly, having checked the offsets and everything on willtheyfit, I think the 7.5/8 staggered CV Pro setup would be ideal for this... Its certainly sowed a seed of an idea Anyway, I got the tyres taken off two of the standard wheels as they were toast. This is basically the sort of condition they're in So they're now in for refurbing, nothing too exciting, just a metallic silver to keep the OEM look Once they're done they'll get put back on the car I tried to sort my heated rear screen issues with a new relay since the fuse wasn't blown and I couldn't hear a relay clicking under the bonnet when the switch was pressed Old relay on the left, new on the right (slightly different part number but correct superceding part according to Honda) aaaaaand.... still no heated rear screen. So I'm going to have to get the multimeter out and get hunting, my favourite...
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JDM wheels don't look completly out of place, but I recon with 30mm lowering the refurb OEM wheels would look great. Specially with a set of spacers (10-15mm) on it.
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adam73bgt
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JDM wheels don't look completly out of place, but I recon with 30mm lowering the refurb OEM wheels would look great. Specially with a set of spacers (10-15mm) on it. Thats along the lines of what I'm thinking, little lower and little bit of spacing.. will see if I get the time and money to try it out!
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adam73bgt
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Feb 17, 2019 19:34:48 GMT
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Made some better progress this weekend, firstly I got the standard wheels back from the powdercoaters. I went with a sparkle silver in the end, probably not entirely accurate to what they would have been from new but the flake should add a little interest when the sun hits them I was sure to coat them all in Gyeon Rim which should help with keeping them looking clean, I also hit the tyres with some Autoglym tyre dressing, had to get a pair of tyres as two had some inner shoulder wear. While I was busy swapping wheels around, I decided this was the day to get the rear brakes fitted as well. Drivers side was easy Had a little cry at the state of all the bushings again Might have to place a Rock Auto order soon.... The Passenger side was going to be the trouble side, I had a rounded slide pin bolt to deal with. I tried a 6 sided socket, tried hammering on a smaller socket, both no good. Had to resort to the rather extreme measure of hacksawing through the slide pin so I could get it out! Got there in the end though. Put in a couple new pins all greased up and it was sorted. The piston in the caliper was a bit tough to retract so I can see why its had a new caliper on the drivers side, this one might not be too far behind... Also while I was swapping the front wheels, I dropped the engine oil and treated it to a new filter. The oil looked/smelled well due a change! I'll probably do a short interval then change it again soon The car needs a clean (I ran out of time) but heres a couple of pics of it back on the wheels I did sort another issue though. A couple of weeks ago I got a parcel from the US with a new aerial mast for the Legend as the one on there didn't retract fully and would click several times after going up or coming down The little chrome lock nut on the base of the aerial has two slots in it, which means it can be turned using circlip pliers. While being VERY careful not to slip and scratch the paint! With the locknut off, the black trim comes off also. Then some pulling on the mast while turning the radio on gives you this I didn't take many photos as it was a bit fiddly, especially as a one man operation! Basically I had to feed the new aerial mast into the hole, while holding it in the right orientation, while also turning the radio off to work the motor to draw it back into the unit On my second try I got it to thread into the motor and was able to push the retaining clip into position (the black plastic piece at the top is part of it) I also took this opportunity to give the metal around the aerial hole a quick wipe before placing the outer trim and locknut back into place After a couple of cycles of turning the radio off and on, the motor draws the aerial fully in It still clicks a couple of times at the end of the travel since the new aerial was slightly shorter than the original, but it works fine and I'm happy Looking at the old aerial it appears to be bent slightly which was stopping it from retracting all the way Next jobs? Well I'm still waiting on my heater transistor, I've ordered a second one from a different seller as I don't think the first one I ordered is going to deliver. I need to look into the heated rear screen issue too. I've got the radiator sat in my living room ready to fit and I think I'm going to order an Air Con condenser and receiver dryer as the condenser on the car is shagged for want of a better word. Still got the electric windows to sort and the ABS light, then I guess I'll have to start on the suspension at some point... But for now its doing good service as a daily driver
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