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Oct 10, 2017 20:36:35 GMT
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I thought that I should ask this question Here as there is lots of conflicting information around!
I am considering fitting some lighter weight front seats that are more supportive than the standard fitment in my W202. That obviously brings me to the important question of passenger safety......
Now harnesses as far as I’m concerned are only safe if fitted correctly at around shoulder height and fitting them to the rear seatbelt mounts in the floor is just plain stupid (in crash situations) and damn impractical as it means total removal of the rear seat!
That brings me on to the aspect of fitting a harness bar at the strongest part of the car, between the B pillars at or around shoulder height. This in theory should position the harness anchor points at the safest place and also allow for rear seat passengers still.
Does anyone have any experience in doing this and any of the pitfalls involved in fitting in this way?
Thanks for any input given as at the moment as it’s just throwing ideas around and whatever I decide to ultimately fit .... I want it to be safe
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This is awesome! I fancy a V6/V8 swap in my W202 .... how are they to wire up and get running??
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That’s an idea I hadn’t thought about. Thanks 👍
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I do like the sport interiors. The interior trim in these is so simple to swap too! Only takes 2 hours to change the complete dash and both front seats.
Currently the interior is a mix of beige seats and trouser accident plastic everywhere. During my shopping around the biggest issue I have found with the interior swap is most have electric rear windows.... mine doesn’t and has none of the wiring there. Finding manual rear window cards is tough going if you want not brown.
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Your car looks great ....but sorry that steering wheel ain’t right, just my opinion of course Thanks, I’m glad that I’m not the only person that likes how the car looks. All opinions are welcomed here, the wheel is a little out of place agreed. But it’s damn comfortable.... maybe have it re trimmed at some point to match in a little better? But unless something else a similar size appears that fits in better it will be staying there. And it’s better than feeling like I’m driving a bus where even with the seat all the way to the floor my knees are in the way lol
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I think these 600’s Are only drab because of the customer base that they collected over the years.
They can look really nice modified, but in my opinion, less is more with them! Definitely lower it and maybe change the wheels that should make a world of difference.
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Shame the boss adapters invariably look terrible & often intended for flat wheels leaving the column stalks a long way from the rim. I agree with the boss adapters mostly looking terrible. Also I think incongruity sums up most of the things on my car .... It’s not finished by a long shot and the brown has to be evicted I think as I would prefer black.
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After meeting a fellow W202 owner locally the other day I ended up acquiring something that I had been looking at for a while. A deep dish suede OMP steering wheel! For a very reasonable price I got the boss, wheel and horn push. The main reason for wanting one of these is the fact that due to height and other reasons, I have to sit fairly far away from the wheel. Couple this with the utter hatred of the not round and bus sized steering wheel in the W202 and no adjustment being a classic... I had plenty of reasons to swap it over! I may have ended up with an airbag fault but I have removed the bulb for now and I’m not concerned about accidental deployment as that’s not a possibility as it currently stands! Basically when you turn the ignition on, SRS light comes on as normal then goes out. 3 seconds after it goes out it comes straight back on and stays on. I think that the wiring may be damaged behind the wheel or the ecu believes that there has been a deployment.... maybe both even though I used the correct resistor etc (battery was totally isolated before I started and during the job). One small annoyance is the boss squeaks when turning slightly. I have tried varying degrees of tightness but it makes no difference. It’s not the plastic/rubber cowling. It’s definitely coming from the area that the boss bolts to the column.... i will maybe remove and refit with some grease or something but for now I can live with it.
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Sept 26, 2017 23:30:05 GMT
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Yes you were right! The reason for the confusion in my head was the wheels fitted are 7.5’s instead of 7’s or 6.5’s! ET41 7.5j puts the face almost in the same place as 6.5j ET37.
They still look too far inboard even with spacers at the rear (imo)
I wouldn’t worry too much about clearance at the rear as long as you don’t go too crazy then an 8 inch rim should sit nicely, the wrong tyre size may eat the rear arch liner though.... I learned that the hard way lol
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Sept 26, 2017 15:15:51 GMT
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The steels on this are from W210! ET 41 (no clearance issue). 7.5j, 16 inch, with 1 inch spacers behind the rears!
You have to be careful using steels and alloys from newer Mercedes models than the W210, the W210, W202 share the same bolt sizes M12 I believe .... W211 and W203 I believe use M14 bolts so the holes in the rims are the wrong size!
The alloys I have on the front are ET41 (again W210) and I have no clearance issues at all and overall a wider track which help with grip and road holding.
In my opinion the standard ET37 wheels sit too far inboard aesthetically and always looks like they are too narrow for the car (personal taste really).
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Sept 25, 2017 21:31:31 GMT
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Because they were at the time of the photo. Had a 215/55/16 on the passenger and a 205/55/16 on the drivers!
Now all match and are 215/45/16.... still look enormous though on steels.
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Sept 24, 2017 15:32:46 GMT
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Well she is mobile again! I have ended up changing the bottom arms, top arms and track rod ends both sides because it was all massively overdue. As you can see with the old vs new parts side by side. All the old parts were well used! I had hit the curb hard enough to almost weld the track rod end into the hub. This in turn bent the actual track rod end ... but amazingly didn't bother the drag link or surrounding steering parts. Had to travel to Dronsfields in Oldham as nowhere local had any steel 7.5x16's (w210 rims). So now sporting a sexy pair of black steels at the rear (soon to be all 4) wrapped in those difficult to find 215/45/16 tyres. Part worms are almost impossible to get so £80+ per tyre. This hugely helps both clearance in arches and acceleration! And here is proof she is mobile.... Yay..... just have to not crash it again now lol
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Sept 19, 2017 2:23:40 GMT
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As mentioned already, nothing has been disturbed at all between the car being used and this problem appearing. Earth points, etc. are all as they were and all the usual suspects check out fine. It certainly sounds like a huge earth leak/short. I would point fingers at the wiring loom behind the dash (if there is one). You need to employ the multimeter and check for a current drain from the battery. If it's flattening the battery so fast it should be fairly easy to trace back if you don't set it on fire first
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Sept 16, 2017 17:43:33 GMT
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Sept 16, 2017 11:24:05 GMT
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Have taken the wheel off and on the surface it looks like I have bent the lower control arm very badly and as the anti roll bar is attached to it, that's also bent out of shape (as mentioned this may pop back when unbolted).
And you are correct this car is on a box not a rack..... just hoping the drag link is alright.
For a start I'm going to unbolt stuff and see what happens before I make any decisions on it's fate.
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Sept 15, 2017 23:30:33 GMT
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Well.... It's all sh*ts and giggles, until someone giggles and sh*ts themselves! Avoiding action and too much right foot + oncoming Micra K11 makes for this mess! I chose the curb over the micra 😜 I think she's fixable but the old girl is going to need the much overdue front suspension overhaul to get there! Never before has this car lost traction on a dry road .... until today of course! I must say, Dunlop make a bloody strong tyre and Mercedes make a damn good wheel because amazingly the tyre has stayed inflated with very minimal sidewall damage (a very small egg on the impact point). I thought that the frame was bent..... on closer inspection it seems the lower control arm and the anti roll bar took most of the impact and the only thing hurt is a little pride and a bit of pavement
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Sept 9, 2017 17:38:22 GMT
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The car is being kept now. I wasn't going to take it off sale so soon, but a bigger engine dropped on my lap for literally peanuts! I know that I could have chosen a larger lump to convert to. However a 2.4 V6 is not to be sniffed at given the price that I'm paying! The car will go from around 136bhp to 169bhp on the new engine if I use the standard ecu. The 2.4 V6 is a damn strong engine and is able to be tweaked a little for extra. I think if I go much more than 200bhp the car will have too much power, given the fact that I have no traction control and lower gearing.... 169bhp is ample improvements and being V6 it will sound far nicer than the 4 pot! It will take me a good few months to get everything sorted so watch this space
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Sept 9, 2017 17:29:47 GMT
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An engine conversion opportunity has dropped on my lap so the car is being kept for the forseable
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Sept 6, 2017 21:56:06 GMT
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I'm keeping this advertised and up for sale for another week. I will be keeping the car and looking at proceeding with further plans if it doesn't sell.
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Sept 6, 2017 21:49:35 GMT
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Found it! This has come on very nicely, shame you're considering selling it when it's so close to where you want it. I wonder if you've something else in mind you'd like to get. I think this is the nicest looking car you've had since the Barrow Hill Cavalier days. Indeed I do have something else in mind. All I'm saying is it's another Mercedes, supercharged and a bigger engine
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