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Grizz, If you send me over some pictures I will pass them onto my dad along with your number. He is a retired engineer but his main interest is Antiquarian Horologicy (sp) with speciality being french movements. He doesn't do it professionally but he does it for beer money and enjoys every second of it. my folks house is filled with seismographs, barometers and clocks with at least 2 clocks in each room. Sleeping there is a bit of a challenge for me as I am used to the countryside with no clocks Hi Mate, I think William just needs to be set up and set in motion again, he is not broken ;D ;D I love any stuff with dials like seismographs etc.
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Jun 24, 2011 10:42:01 GMT
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i am sure he could do that no problem, His usual commision is to strip, totally clean, re-lub and set in motion again
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Seth
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Jun 24, 2011 13:24:42 GMT
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Thanks jrevil, Grizz. However, here is a request..... Why don't you give us more of your work in this thread? I suspect a lot of guys on here will enjoy it. Yeah, well I know there's quite a few engineer types hanging out here so thought it might be of interest. A lot of what I do is fairly samey but now and again I get something more interesting and now I've got the facilty, want to try and build a photographic catalogue of jobs so might throw the odd one up here.
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Jun 24, 2011 23:02:53 GMT
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That is some impressive stuff, ive always been fascinated by the inner workings of watches and clocks, the size and precision of them is just an amazing thing to take in. I'm very jealous of what you do
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Jun 28, 2011 15:13:50 GMT
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I like to think I could turn my hand to most things but this seriously impresses me!
You haz top skillz!
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Aug 16, 2011 13:31:37 GMT
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Thanks Gray, danblez. Something a little different. I had a work related commission a little while ago which while carrying out meant I had to register with the Goldsmiths Company who are responsible for issuing London hallmarks. So with that done I thought I might see about making something else, for fun like. I started off with some silver tube, 2.4mm OD/0.4mm wall and cut eight lengths all the same. Then got a small chunk of silver, filed it square, carefully marked it out and drilled eight holes. I turned a portion of each tube down slightly and thinned the wall internally right at the end. Next I made a steel punch, with a pilot section to slip inside the tube and a radius. Each tube was then lined up and the punch knocked into the smaller end then polished and given a rough finish lower down. Tubes were fitted to the block so that all were level and soldered in place from the bottom. Following that, the silver "findings" I bought were soldered and fitted in place and the bits I wanted shiny re-polished. I can now have a Hilborn Injected wrist when I dress up smart. Just need to make another one now, along the same lines but slightly different. I have another pair in mind too so once I get a small group together I can take them to be hallmarked as Sterling Silver.
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Aug 16, 2011 15:27:18 GMT
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Loving your work.
How on earth do you start to learn skills like this?
I'm extremely envious of your skills!
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I can now have a Hilborn Injected wrist when I dress up smart. Just need to make another one now, along the same lines but slightly different. Very cool, can we have a picture next to a penny so we can see really how amazing this work really is? John
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Seth
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Aug 17, 2011 16:00:00 GMT
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Thanks Scruff, tickman. Plastic modeling (and detailing) through my teens and a bit later certainly helped introduce me to working with small stuff. In fact I scratchbuilt the injection for this a rather long time ago out of plastic with ally trumpets though I can't remember how I formed the bellmouths on those! Patience is probably the most valuable attribute to have. Its also sometimes just a matter of getting stuck in to something new too, which once successful breeds confidence for the next thing. For example I wasn't 100% sure that the silver tube would stretch into the bellmouth shape without splitting so just had to try it to find out. The rectangular block of the cufflink is 16.5 x 9.5mm so not that teeny tiny compared to other stuff I sometimes do.
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Aug 18, 2011 11:40:39 GMT
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Lovely work! And always nice to be wearing self made silver cufflinks! ;D Btw, have you shown that model to Paul W as inspiration? ;D
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Aug 18, 2011 19:12:28 GMT
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Lovely. Looking forward to seeing what you have in mind for the other wrist.
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Aug 18, 2011 22:12:33 GMT
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seth, this is fantastic.
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Em
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Aug 23, 2011 12:46:55 GMT
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Blimey, that's some amazing work there Seth! The tolerances you must be working to must be incredibly small! I find working with small things incredibly frustrating, I wish I had some of your Zen-like calm! (Even though I’ve known you for a little while now, I have only just this moment realised why you have a Smiths clock as your avatar...!)
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Seth
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Sept 5, 2011 14:08:30 GMT
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I've done the other one Similar but not quite the same. Instead of another upright "Hilborn" I've gone for a slightly slanty "Crower" version. Took a little more time to set up and drill the holes but I'm pretty pleased with the result. And for Tickman here they are with a penny. The Hilborn has already started to tarnish a little hence the slight colour difference. I've got some stuff I can use to keep them bright if need be.
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Sept 5, 2011 14:29:37 GMT
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That penny looks massive, just make the job even more impressive! Nice work as always! Thanks for the scale photo John.
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Sept 9, 2011 10:03:53 GMT
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Thats impressive stuff, Now I'd like to see that penny next to a real one to show you don't just have a giant penny.
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Seth
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Sept 12, 2011 20:50:33 GMT
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After that distraction I've got on with some more actual work Here's something I was doing last week. The watch was running OK, but not quite as it should be. The balance is the circular object that swings to and fro and regulates the time keeping of the watch - it is a sort of sprung pendulum if you like. Anyhow, the balance in this watch wasn't swinging as well as it should have been. When I had a close look it was clear that the balance staff, ie. the balance's "axle", was a pretty crude replacement. Presumably the original had broken at some point as they are quite fragile. So I decided to strip it down and make a new one. Here's the balance assembly in bits. The small shaft towards the bottom is the staff. As well as the wheel, there are two other parts that fit to it, the hair spring and the roller, just to the left of the staff. Here we are part way through making the new one. The 16 on the collet refers to the size; 16 tenths of a mm, ie 1.6mm dia, The pivot on the end is in the order of 0.1-0.2mm. Not measured but turned/stoned/polished until it fits the jewel hole. Here it is ready for initial fitting compared to the old one. You can see how the old one has not been "finished" at all well, indeed the larger diameter has been left raw and the hair spring seat which should be parallel is a big wobbly taper. Also, there is no oil sink at the left hand end, the reverse tapered section just in from the end. This "catches" any extra oil from the pivot and prevents it spreading to the hair spring. (I had to get an even bigger 1p ) I could then fit the balance (which is a close fit on its seat and riveted on) and start getting it to fit the watch by adjusting the lengths of the pivots which I normally try and make a bit too long. Here I've added arrows so you can see there's not much room for leeway with the vertical position of the balance, nor run out caused by sloppy fit of the jewels or eccentricity between the ends. Once sorted so that it spins freely with a minimum of endfloat its time to fit up the other parts. The roller (which is what engages with the rest of the movement is a slight press fit on the taper below the wheel. And the hairspring has a slightly sprung split brass collet and is pushed on the top. Its rotational position with regards to the roller is important so the collet allows this to be adjusted to the right position while keeping it tight enough not to work loose while running. And there we go all fitted up and running. With the old staff the balance was rotating about 90 degrees each side of its central point and now it is going pretty much 180 degrees each way. A definite improvement. I hope you find this drivel interesting.
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Sept 12, 2011 20:58:32 GMT
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this is really interesting every thing is soooooooo small how do you manage to see it all (i guess a magnifying glass of some sort)
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Sept 12, 2011 21:59:02 GMT
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Thanks Scruff, tickman. Plastic modeling (and detailing) through my teens and a bit later certainly helped introduce me to working with small stuff. In fact I scratchbuilt the injection for this a rather long time ago out of plastic with ally trumpets though I can't remember how I formed the bellmouths on those! Patience is probably the most valuable attribute to have. Its also sometimes just a matter of getting stuck in to something new too, which once successful breeds confidence for the next thing. For example I wasn't 100% sure that the silver tube would stretch into the bellmouth shape without splitting so just had to try it to find out. The rectangular block of the cufflink is 16.5 x 9.5mm so not that teeny tiny compared to other stuff I sometimes do. awesome work! that takes fantastic skill and patients! i cant even find my tools let alone putting them bits down! can you clarify if that model ran? i get the impression it did lol
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Seth
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Sept 13, 2011 7:50:04 GMT
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how do you manage to see it all (i guess a magnifying glass of some sort) I've got a binocular microscope over the lathe and use an eye glass at other times if I want to look closely at something. I'm quite short sighted which is an advantage as I work without my glasses on and can focus pretty closely.
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