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Dec 15, 2006 21:04:53 GMT
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any preferances, is either cheaper/easy to install and get running what would you say would give best results on a small engine  i want my car to be faster............but i want to keep it 1117cc  |
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filmidget
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Dec 15, 2006 21:39:31 GMT
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I want my car to be faster............but I want to keep it 1117cc I guess I am missing something... but why? |
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Dec 15, 2006 21:45:02 GMT
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Presumably for tax & insurance purposes.  |
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J.P
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Dec 15, 2006 21:46:17 GMT
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Make it a high revving small capacity engine...Supercharge it because the small engine will have a harder time spooling up a turbo.
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Dec 15, 2006 21:55:05 GMT
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wash my car would make it go a lot faster got about 2/3 inchs of mud underneath and on bottoms of doors
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Dec 15, 2006 22:04:49 GMT
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I's say supercharged for the highly technical reason that i like the SUPERCHARGED badge on the back of Range Rover Sports and I could affix one.
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Dec 15, 2006 22:34:08 GMT
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Presumably for tax & insurance purposes. i hadnt thought of that  but i have a spare 1.1 that "should" run okay its pretty low milage just not been started for a year or so now, and it would be nice to tune a 1.1..........and go humiliate some saxo's, and of course just to shut all the fiesta boys up "just throw a XR lump in it" i suppose supercharging would be better more useable power, I'm guessing ignition advance is needed with this saw some cheap eatons on ebay earlier too  |
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once again rocking with 1117cc and 4 gears! |
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Dec 15, 2006 23:32:59 GMT
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"Suspect is in a White Mk1 Fiesta, Colorado licence plate OA 5599. We have reason to believe it may be supercharged. Last name, Kowalski, first name unknown".
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Dec 15, 2006 23:41:02 GMT
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ROFLMFAO @ Vic!
Superb!!!!!
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Dec 15, 2006 23:43:47 GMT
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Supercharge it you know you want to........
check out Diffs zetec powered viva.......
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what the fcuk have you done lately
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Dec 15, 2006 23:54:02 GMT
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Supercharge it because the small engine will have a harder time spooling up a turbo. You've got that the wrong way around dude. |
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J.P
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Supercharge it because the small engine will have a harder time spooling up a turbo. You've got that the wrong way around dude. Ohh...The way i thought it would be that a small cc engine would either have to have a small and maby not so worthwhile turbo for it to spool up in a worthwile time and that a supercharger produces power from the word go because its belt driven? Or am i completely off the mark? |
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Turbo all day!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wasted power and no constant wine, no belts to snap, not as frequent rebuilds, easier adjustability, easier to pick out of a scrapyard, easier to mount (usually), can run ithout any boxes in the exhaust system without being too loud, able to adjust boost 'on the move' with an in car adjuster up for racing down for cruising (usefull on motorways) and if your stuck for a lighter you can light a tab on one after some spirited driving My personal view anyway |
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I'm guessing ignition advance is needed with this Retard ignition for force induction. Advance = extra heat, not good for a turbomotor especially and not so good for superchargers either Rule of thumb to get you started would be retard 1 degree per pound of boost and set your fuel pressure (to get you started again) 1 psi per pound of boost plus 5 eg: boost 5 psi, fuel pressure 9 psi boost 10psi, fuel pressure 14psi |
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Twin Charge, for me.. Thank-you
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qwerty
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Buy my 9 off me. Looks as if its gunna sell for about £50  could use the whole turbo system (carb, Turbo, Intercooler) |
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slater
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Your stealing my project! ;D
Ive been trying to fit an eaton on my fez, well atleast trying to verify the possibility. Having trouble finding room for it tbh. Not enough room behind the engine and the exhaust gets in the way at the front. The only place i can get it to fit is ontop of the engine with the charger sticking out the bonnet! the driverside engine mount gets in the way of the belt a bit. Its needs more thought i think.
it is the better option everytime for a sensible road car imo but its harder to pull off
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You've got that the wrong way around dude. Ohh...The way I thought it would be that a small cc engine would either have to have a small and maby not so worthwhile turbo for it to spool up in a worthwile time and that a supercharger produces power from the word go because its belt driven? Or am I completely off the mark? The belt charger does produce power from low down yes,but it takes much more power to drive it,whereas the turbo is using engine waste products to drive it so it's essensially power for free (discounting enery lost through heat) That's why the Smart 600cc/Daihatsu Copen 600cc etc run turbos.....albiet small ones,but a nice small turbo will mean minimal spool up time c/w minimal lag too Turbo is the way to go imo.....the main problems would be building a pressure box to sit the carb in and jetting it to suit.I don't know a lot about carb turbo systems,maybe you could pinch and adapt the r5gtt set up?? |
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Dec 16, 2006 10:04:52 GMT
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I've been investigating this too as i've got a spare 1300cc 4K engine for my Kp. After talking to and letting my engine builder mate have a look at the R1 carbs i have he says they will take upto about 1 bar of pressure maybe more. I was going to be looking for a GT15 turbo as these are ball bearing so spool up real quick and seem to be a popular choice for small engines (it's the turbo of choice for the guys that turbo the cinquecento).
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Dec 16, 2006 15:01:18 GMT
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and adapt the r5gtt set up?? bolts straight onto the fiesta 1.1 manifold just waiting for a standard and cheap item to crop up on ebay thanks for all the votes opinions and advice Slater mount it poking out the bonnet.......hmmmmm will be the wrong way round though  |
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once again rocking with 1117cc and 4 gears! |
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could use the whole turbo system (carb, Turbo, Intercooler)
