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Dec 14, 2017 10:58:39 GMT
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Maybe the least imaginative name here, just my initials.
I used to be SB_Inde on 106OC as I owned an Independnce, but when I joined here I was driving the most dire bright yellow Hyundai Getz and definitely didnt want any reference to that.
I was mostly surprised there was no 3 character limit as per every other forum so I just took the first bit.
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Duh learn to maths. How big is it though and whats it fitted with? As £375 a month is still kinda steep, also whereabouts is it?
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ONCE AGAIN people need to understand EXACT wording and why using it is so important . Substantally changed is NOTHING to do with Radically Altered. Substantially chnged is being used to decide which cars will be VHI ( and so MOT exempt ) and thos ethat wont. It was initially proposed to use the 8 points system as used for IDENTITY purposes. This was dropped and changed to " 15% power to weight increase" , this in tuen was ubdergoing further discussion which was supposed to close in Novemeber. If you read that letter using the above information all becomes clear. Cheers for that, makes a lot more sense!
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Just saw this on a fb page, anyone have information about this? Losing the 8 points rule I think is scary because I don't see them bringing in anything more relaxed.
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Last Edit: Dec 5, 2017 8:19:00 GMT by sb
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I have a very small unit on a farm industrial estate now in Whitwell. It is quite small and I really could do with more space, there is a HUGE NEW unit being built... almost warehouse sized which will be £1500 pcm but way out of my price range. If a few people were serious about sharing it then I suspect between 4 people would be ideal as you could fit probably up to 20 cars inside. How much would you be looking at with 4 people? And whereabouts?
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Nov 30, 2017 19:39:24 GMT
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I should have an aerial and turbo heat shield if you want it? Only issue, Ive got to wait until January for my car to come back to get it. Ooh that would be brill thanks! I don't mind waiting a bit at all Is yours having some welding done? Two blown standard turbos so gone for a full gt35 build. I'll get them off when it's back.
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Nov 29, 2017 19:41:49 GMT
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I should have an aerial and turbo heat shield if you want it? Only issue, Ive got to wait until January for my car to come back to get it.
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Nov 25, 2017 23:02:04 GMT
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rotarypower Do the coupes have an electric aerial for the radio in the rear quarter like the convertibles do you know? Mine certainly does
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As sb points out one of my big issues with current talk of emissions is the whole life cycle stuff hasn't had published research, or at least readily available published research. What is the environmental impact from a 15 year or 20 year life cycle of an EV car, compared to a current modern car, both will require the mining of materials which are horrendous in order to get the electronics etc. working, however an EV has that whole battery thing, but then it could theoretically be powered by renewable, or coal, or burning whale fat, or whatever. It would be good to know how these different things effect the whole life cycle of these cars and what the aim should be and the net benefit in relation to petrol, diesel etc. American and not particularly good but some basic parameters and ‘evidence” www.environment.ucla.edu/media/files/BatteryElectricVehicleLCA2012-rh-ptd.pdfInteresting article, for any real use here it needs some parameters changing but ultimately I wouldnt expect the UK to be that far off. It backs up my early point (also US based when I researched it) that an EV wins on total emissions including its construction, but I only briefly flicked through so I'm not sure what numbers they were using to assume those figures. Also the most interesting part for me is the section stating that an EV will not save you money at all over an ICE due to the investment cost.
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Nov 20, 2017 21:18:09 GMT
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Thats an impressive response sb, I take my hat off to you, but as for new technology, I'm guessing you know how a nuclear power station produces its energy, and how old a technology is steam? My argument really hinges on the fact that just because a technology is old it doesn't mean that it is obsolete. We are all likely to get forced out of what we want to drive, and possibly even out of car ownership altogether, so I'm damn sure I'm going to drive what I like for as long as I possibly can. As the saying goes, you will get me out of my Range Rover when you pry my cold dead fingers off the steering wheel. And sorry but I still don't agree that building new cars with modern technology will be more EF than running old cars for longer. Right, I have said my piece, and I'm going to stop arguing now, because this is one of the reasons I don't do facebook et al because I need to find better things to do with my life! Not to belabour the point but just because turbines are still turbines doesnt mean the technology is the same. Turbines much like the ICE have not significantly changed in a long time but in that time we have increased their economy a lot. The 1.3 a series derivative in my truck is a whole different world to a new 1.3 turbo eco motor. The part that is missing from my quote is that peer review papers state categorically that a new EV over its life will be better for the environment, including its manufacture, over an average ICE. Note I still have not found a detailed answer for what a lifetime is or what an average petrol is. So that brings me to the graph, if you live in one of those states from the very first second your car is started until the day it dies it must average that mpg. Now if what the national grid says is true that they peaked 50% renewable you would need over 100mpg average on your ICE to equal the dirty power for the EV. Because new technology turbines are very efficient. For every mile you drive under the required offset MPG the EV catches up and with some of those numbers it is really not hard to see how the EV will easily overtake an ICE. Now consider this is the start of this tech, we can only move up so every year your ICE would have to get more and more efficient. I'm not telling you to move to the woods and only eat leaves, I own a rotary so I'm not winning any environmental awards! But don't lie to yourself that youre helping the world by keeping your old car running. While the argument may work for other new ICEs the EVs will win.
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Nov 20, 2017 19:00:39 GMT
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You need to enter new technology into the market otherwise we would still be shovelling coal into our engines. New cars that produce less emmisions can easily overtake old cars on total emmisions produced, including manufacture. No no no sorry not true See a post Ive made on this topic before: I'm not as anti- electric vehicles as many are but as they haven't been in mainstream use for more than 2-3 years, this can only be really theoretical research. Having said that, something needs to be done to get older buses off cleaned up. They can often be seen pumping out horrible plumes of black (and smelly) smoke, plus they run all day when most cars are parked up causing no pollution whatsoever. I'll stop now before I launch into my whole public transport manifesto. Absolutely, which is my biggest gripe with everything Ive read. Not one article or report seems to state what they are counting as a 'lifetime'. Because ignoring that you need to take into account when the batteries will need to be replaced, which is where the majority of pollution goes on EVs. Depending on the level of clean energy produced though electrics can be leagues ahead. Sorry this is america-centric but I cant find a European version: For context CAL is looking towards 33% renewable energy, the rest of the 'best' states are 15-20%. So if we got our curse word together you would have to average 50-70mpg to compete with EVs (which admittedly isnt too hard nowadays). But if we actually figure out what we are doing you would have to do 70-100+mpg on average over a cars life. Honestly I thought EVs were a fad but as manufacturing improves in battery technology and we start to realise coal is a bit old fashioned they make sense in urban traffic heavy environments. Plus they're not some dull hippy mobile, EVs will shift hard, torque all day every day. I'm not an eco warrior, my car does ~10mpg, and I'm planning on something even less economical for the other one but I like EVs. Sorry for the rant... have a retro styled EV concept:
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Nov 20, 2017 16:44:36 GMT
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You are completely wrong there sb, producing new cars is EXACTLY the issue, as already said the pollution involved with the construction, use of more raw materials, the disposal of the old serviceable cars and parts that could be used over and over again to maintain those alrfeady on ther road, and so on You need to enter new technology into the market otherwise we would still be shovelling coal into our engines. New cars that produce less emmisions can easily overtake old cars on total emmisions produced, including manufacture.
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Nov 19, 2017 23:01:00 GMT
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Petrol economy has caught up with diesel recently. Fords 1 litre ecoboost is an excellent little engine and has the same power, torque and economy as the average 2 litre turbo diesel but is much lighter and with a much better power range so can be driven more economically. surely this is the immediate future According to the googles the most powerful 1.0 eco boost makes less power and torque than the eco version of my 1.4 diesel let alone the 'sporty' ones. While I agree that there is some clever tech and tuning in modern small engines I don't see them being more economical or reliable than an equal sized diesel. Making 140PS on a 1.0l cannot be easy on the internals and I don't see any longevity in it! The true answer to me is make driving licenses harder to get, right now I could get a blind primate on the road. Make tests reflect actual driving and try to teach drivers some basics and reduce the number of people on the road. That means more people on public transport, less wear on our roads and less polution.
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Nov 19, 2017 19:40:15 GMT
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Also the old one that you can keep driving your old car and still polute less than manafacturing a new electric car is almost entirely false, a new electric car will likely benefit over your old car within a decade including its manufacture. Sorry sb I think you're missing the point, I agree that over 10 years a newer car will produce less emmissions than an older one, my meaning was that most 'modern' drivers change their vehicles around three years old, meaning that a new car has to be produced every three years or so, which still makes my old car more EF And even Friends of the Earth agree that it is better to maintain an old car than produce a new one Those cars don't go in the tip, they get sold and filter down the market. Producing new cars every year is not an issue. Whether car manufacturers are building sensible numbers of vehicles is a different conversation. And one more thing, with these electric cars, am i right in thinking that there will be major costs involved and a great deal more decision making and scientists cutting up rats and mice (not rabbits... these are for make up companies to torture!) pointing at diagrams and working out how to actually dispose of the electric batteries once they are defunct? Your thoughts? Views? That's dependant on manufacture but they can be recycled into new batteries, this is off the top of my head but I'm fairly sure that's one of Tesla's big deals that they can almost fully recycle their batteries?
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Nov 18, 2017 23:06:19 GMT
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One of the major issues is the government has never correctly tested emissions for vehicles. On the road you are nowhere near the test conditions and likely never will be, this allows awful polluting vehicles onto our roads under a false guide.
If every car went through realistic emmisions testing we would have some actual information on pollutants.
Also one of the things everybody likes to gloss over is torque is the most important number. Now find me a 1.4 petrol that can make the same torque as my diesel. Most 'eco' petrols I've driven darn near need to be launched every time you pull away and that's when you burn the most fuel. Ican do 60mpg urban driving if I'm careful, I cannot see an equal petrol getting near to that and would happily argue that my vehicle when driven correctly likely pollutes less.
Also the old one that you can keep driving your old car and still polute less than manafacturing a new electric car is almost entirely false, a new electric car will likely benefit over your old car within a decade including its manufacture.
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Nov 17, 2017 10:32:26 GMT
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If its a crack that needs repairing remember to drill holes in either end of the crack or it can just spread and undo your work.
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Nov 15, 2017 23:46:57 GMT
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Nov 14, 2017 20:19:05 GMT
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But I don't know of somewhere you can drop your car off and say I want every inch of this car changed First of all may I introduce you to Retro Power, who do exactly that. To a lesser extent Alfaholics for your Alfa Romeo. Then there are people like Eagle and Land Rover themselves. To an extent people like Valley Gas Speedshop and Burnham Autos will do complete strip and rebuild custom work. Secondly until a couple of years ago this was true, but if you look at things like the Haynes Breakfast Meets or the Queens Square Meet in Bristol, or even the Goodwood Breakfast meets (even if they are themed), this attitude is changing, which is great! Retro Power looks pretty awesome after flicking through their work, but the other parts are re affirming my point that everything appears marque based and grouped off. There are all-in shops for work too. Many of them. Motorvation up near Watford, who are looking after Monty *Sob* do metal work, mechanicals, performance engineering, finishing. Down here on the coast there's PM Autorestorations who are as at home with a 50's yank tank as an 80's Japanese hot hatch. My point isnt so much that these places don't exist, its that England doesnt have the same national conversation that the Americans seem to. Now being English and securely in England what I say is only based off of what I see, not experience, so its biased. But car ownership appears a lot more front and centre, its not a niche hobby its a real past time. I guess its part of the 'American dream' attitude and heres my automobile and I will conquer the world with it. Whereas at home I feel I'm definitely the odd one out for what I do, those companies shown and their work is incredible and should be shouted about but to me theres this air of don't talk about it because then people look at you weird. I can stand in a car park for hours with friends and talk about every minor detail, but almost everyone outside of people I know because of cars just asks why I would ever do what I do. Not even pointed comments just a general incredulousness that someone has the gall to weld things to their car. Writing this I'm now wondering if the 'we are a classic car club you are not welcome' mentality is perpetuated by this. You tell someone you spent god knows how much on a 'classic' and its socially acceptable, almost responsible as you have invested. But plow a quarter as much into something a little obscure and newer and suddenly youre a lunatic. If you look out of place driving it in a tweed jacket then don't bring it up in polite conversation. Again this is all entirely the way I see things, I'm not claiming I'm right or that I have an answer. But I believe we would all be better off if we could "legitimise" what we do, make it a single and very obvious entity rather than people in sheds.
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Nov 14, 2017 16:40:08 GMT
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General aftermarket doesn't seem to have a SEMA equivalent, or is there someone I'm missing? This is the closest I can find which seems to be a pretty close match on the tin : www.iaaf.co.uk/ ... but doesn't seem to have the scope of something like SEMA It may just be my view of things but I don't think theres any wide audience for modifying in the UK. Yes there are enthusiasts, yes there are groups. But theres no large national meetings for all, everyone sticks to their own little niche. Theres no large network of custom car builders, your mate might be able to do a mean engine swap, his mate might be able to do some decent welds. But I don't know of somewhere you can drop your car off and say I want every inch of this car changed. I'm not saying it doesnt exist but I can think of numerous examples for countries I don't live in, but none for the one I do. Again this might just be the way that I interact with this hobby but for a nation that used to have coachbuilders who would build you anything you wanted it seems you have to run around a bit unless you have a specific model that someone wants to market at, a Range Rover for example. Which is weird because people do it, there are some trully gorgeous cars built here and many manufacturers happy to make parts, just no amalgamation of all of that. Take cars and coffee, in America you see videos of an early Sunday morning where all ages, backgrounds and interests join and look at everything you can imagine. I don't see that happening here, its we have our morning 'classic' only club and you have your modified retros and you have your Japanese. It all feels very secular and divided and I think that is why we have no national convention of builders and parts suppliers and that is what will stop this hobby. The fact that you can kill it off tiny bit at a time without anyone really noticing until they come for them.
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