MrT
Posted a lot
Just who did Mr Hitler REALLY think he was kidding?
Posts: 1,773
|
|
May 24, 2010 15:36:46 GMT
|
I guess from the title that we're all supposed to know who this Mike Burrough chap is then To me, it just looks like a council-estate-homie's cruiser. Yeah, he might have spent some dollar mechanically, but it looks a bit, erm, 'drug dealer-esque'. Really not feeling it...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:00:39 GMT
|
|
|
|
|
qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 2,416
Club RR Member Number: 52
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:01:16 GMT
|
I've not really commented on this whole Mike Burroughs "thing", until now. I don't get all the hype! I'm not saying he doesn't build asthetically pleasing cars, quite the opposite. But then so do loads of people! Look through the readers rides threads on a lot of forums here in the uk and you'll find fabulous looking and performing cars, but do they become internet phenomenom's? No! Why!? Who knows!? People obviiously just prefer pretty pictures with weird white balance :/ Anyway, I don't mind the car infact I think its pretty cool!
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:04:52 GMT
|
this one looks ok nothing special but nice to look at . i'm not really a fan of his cars tbh but he does get the stance right most of the time
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:09:52 GMT
|
I don't get all the hype! I'm not saying he doesn't build asthetically pleasing cars, quite the opposite. But then so do loads of people! Look through the readers rides threads on a lot of forums here in the uk and you'll find fabulous looking and performing cars, but do they become internet phenomenom's? No! Setting up Stanceworks has a little to do with his ubiquity.
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:12:16 GMT
|
I don't get all the hype! I'm not saying he doesn't build asthetically pleasing cars, quite the opposite. But then so do loads of people! Look through the readers rides threads on a lot of forums here in the uk and you'll find fabulous looking and performing cars, but do they become internet phenomenom's? No! Why!? Who knows!? People obviiously just prefer pretty pictures with weird white balance :/ It's all about presentation. His cars aren't bad at all - lots of work evidently went into that e36, and it's a very nice car. Not groundbreaking or earth-shattering, but still a nice car. The difference is the branding - the slick photos, the corporate graphic imagery of Stanceworks, the hip edgy videos with professional editing, choice soundtrack and appropriately dressed "stars", the slogans like "Low is a Lifestyle"... and so on. It's a well packaged, slick presentation which adds to the hype surrounding the cars. He's offering an entire brand to be consumed, selling a lifestyle to buy into, rather than plonking some images of his motor on his blog. I'm not criticizing Burrows at all - his work is good. But what gives him the edge here is his media-savviness rather than doing anything spectacularly new with the cars.
|
|
Last Edit: May 24, 2010 16:16:15 GMT by BenzBoy
|
|
MrT
Posted a lot
Just who did Mr Hitler REALLY think he was kidding?
Posts: 1,773
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:20:33 GMT
|
I don't get all the hype! I'm not saying he doesn't build asthetically pleasing cars, quite the opposite. But then so do loads of people! Look through the readers rides threads on a lot of forums here in the uk and you'll find fabulous looking and performing cars, but do they become internet phenomenom's? No! Why!? Who knows!? People obviiously just prefer pretty pictures with weird white balance :/ It's all about presentation. His cars aren't bad at all - lots of work evidently went into that e36, and it's a very nice car. Not groundbreaking or earth-shattering, but still a nice car. The difference is the branding - the slick photos, the corporate graphic imagery of Stanceworks, the hip edgy videos with professional editing, choice soundtrack and appropriately dressed "stars", the slogans like "Low is a Lifestyle"... and so on. It's a well packaged, slick presentation which adds to the hype surrounding the cars. He's offering an entire brand to be consumed, selling a lifestyle to buy into, rather than plonking some images of his motor on his blog. I'm not criticizing Burrows at all - his work is good. But what gives him the edge here is his media-savviness rather than doing anything spectacularly new with the cars. I think you've probably hit the nail on the head right there. That E28 looked pretty good in some shots, but this isn't doing it for me. But then, E36's aren't my bag anyway - they always looked 'worn', even when mint, if you get my drift...
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:32:53 GMT
|
boring
** edit **
started watching the video. what a pretentious pile of wibblepoo. I hope to never have anything to do with that sort of 'world'
|
|
Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350
|
|
Seth
South East
MorrisOxford TriumphMirald HillmanMinx BorgwardIsabellaCombi
Posts: 15,538
Member is Online
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:35:22 GMT
|
I want some of his struts!
I doubt they come in a budget friendly form though...
|
|
Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
|
|
qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 2,416
Club RR Member Number: 52
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:41:01 GMT
|
I don't get all the hype! I'm not saying he doesn't build asthetically pleasing cars, quite the opposite. But then so do loads of people! Look through the readers rides threads on a lot of forums here in the uk and you'll find fabulous looking and performing cars, but do they become internet phenomenom's? No! Why!? Who knows!? People obviiously just prefer pretty pictures with weird white balance :/ It's all about presentation. His cars aren't bad at all - lots of work evidently went into that e36, and it's a very nice car. Not groundbreaking or earth-shattering, but still a nice car. The difference is the branding - the slick photos, the corporate graphic imagery of Stanceworks, the hip edgy videos with professional editing, choice soundtrack and appropriately dressed "stars", the slogans like "Low is a Lifestyle"... and so on. It's a well packaged, slick presentation which adds to the hype surrounding the cars. He's offering an entire brand to be consumed, selling a lifestyle to buy into, rather than plonking some images of his motor on his blog. I'm not criticizing Burrows at all - his work is good. But what gives him the edge here is his media-savviness rather than doing anything spectacularly new with the cars. Benz Boy you speak the truth!! It goes to show the power of the net I suppose. We're exposed to such a huge amount of hight quality cars that, we probably get a bit complacent when it comes to new high quality cars. If I saw that car on the street i'd probably think "OOOOOH thats lovely" But see it on the internet and its a bit same old same old ;D fickle ain't I haha.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 16:57:37 GMT
|
boring ** edit ** started watching the video. what a pretentious pile of wibblepoo. I hope to never have anything to do with that sort of 'world' I hope that my photography and videography becomes as good, and that my cars get near completion rather than ending up in a depressing half done state. Thats what I hope for.
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 17:11:33 GMT
|
The difference is the branding - the slick photos, the corporate graphic imagery of Stanceworks, the hip edgy videos with professional editing, choice soundtrack and appropriately dressed "stars", the slogans like "Low is a Lifestyle"... and so on. It's a well packaged, slick presentation which adds to the hype surrounding the cars. He's offering an entire brand to be consumed, selling a lifestyle to buy into, rather than plonking some images of his motor on his blog. kinda how hoodride developed? as for the Edirtysix, yeah it looks good but then well done e36s are few and far between. I bet there are more lurking out there that will never reach the staus of this, even the ones that are better done because of the branding. I do like it, but it is only wheels, some coilover struts and a motor swap when you get down to it. no resto work, custom mods etc. its simplicity does help it as its attainable for other folks. but it ain't worth all the fan boy attention, like an OCC bike in many ways. well, maybe a little bit..... amg rims are gonna be what? £800 with tyres? gaz coilies like those- £700? who cares what motor it runs when the bonnets shut and all the priase it gets will be across the internet who will never see its full potential in the flesh. so nice and cheap and quick to replicate I'd not have chosen an s54 becuase they just aren't worth it IMO, m60 v8 would be half the price, just as "special" and not far off as quick. and you won't find me bigging up bent 8s very often so yeah, good looking car, will get conversation about it because of the builder. it is worth a "hell yeah! I like that ", so lets not get hung up on the builder, yeah? edit to add, just watched the vid- he doesn't know a lot about what he's done in some ways. "everythings factory DME and EWS". yeah, right you are, thats how come its got no MAF then? piggyback? not factory bmw is it
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 17:42:16 GMT
|
The difference is the branding - the slick photos, the corporate graphic imagery of Stanceworks, the hip edgy videos with professional editing, choice soundtrack and appropriately dressed "stars", the slogans like "Low is a Lifestyle"... and so on. It's a well packaged, slick presentation which adds to the hype surrounding the cars. He's offering an entire brand to be consumed, selling a lifestyle to buy into, rather than plonking some images of his motor on his blog. kinda how hoodride developed? Exactly that. And I think animosity tends to come out when people see a brand or any form of commerciality. I'm not sure why this is (and I find myself doing it too!). Perhaps it's because people feel that they are being sold something, and people don't like being sold to. Perhaps it's because people feel that generating a corporate identity and brand is "selling out" and all of a sudden it isn't a car built by "one of us" in his garage. Maybe it's just an aversion to the mainstream (hence why we drive retro cars and not "ordinary" cars), and having any sort of profile which seeks to attract people through branding, slogans and slick presentation is seen as pandering to the mainstream. Maybe it's a combination of all of these. Maybe I think about these things too much... ;D. Brand development interests me a great deal, and brands / development / marketing feature in my line of work so I suppose I have a vested interest! ;D I have a lot of respect for him - it isn't easy building a successful brand. And it is evidently working - look how much discussion his creations get just on Retro Rides. Whether that's due to the car or the Stanceworks TM brand behind it doesn't really make any difference in the eyes of many.
|
|
Last Edit: May 24, 2010 17:48:53 GMT by BenzBoy
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 17:45:57 GMT
|
"Perhaps it is the result of anxiety."
;D
|
|
Team Blitz Ford Capri parts worldwide: Restoration, Road, or Race. Used, Repro, and NOS, ranging from scabby to perfect. Itching your Capri jones since 1979! Buy, sell, trade. www.teamblitz.com blitz@teamblitz.com
|
|
mclellanmac
Posted a lot
Hand me the hammer and the WD40
Posts: 1,178
|
|
May 24, 2010 18:17:17 GMT
|
Thats Amazing, The suspension, THE NOISE! True the wheels may just be there for reaction, But have to admit it does look good!
|
|
Mercedes 190e, Lovely
MK4 Golf GTi 20v Turbo, Dull, but always works!
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 18:18:59 GMT
|
I think I've worked out why I dislike Burroughs and his brand and cars.
He's just not 'punk' enough.
I was brought up on a DIY, 'make do and mend', 'be true to yourself', reject mainstream ethic. Which, in my cars (and taste in others' cars), doesn't lend itself to anything packaged, branded, forced down my throat, paint-by-numbers etc etc... which exactly what Stanceworks and MB's cars fall into. If someone says "this is what is cool" as opposed to "I think this is cool", I'm pretty inclined to think they're a douche and scribe them off my radar. You might as well go spend £70 on a Billabong hoodie because you think it makes you have that air of a 'cool surfer dude' as you walk around the Trafford Centre - the irony is that most 'surfer dudes' couldn't afford a Billabong hoodie if they saved up a years worth of spare cash!
Mike Burroughs is the Avril Lavigne of Rock 'n' Roll
|
|
Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350
|
|
B-8-D
Posted a lot
down to one car!!
Posts: 4,038
|
|
May 24, 2010 18:31:21 GMT
|
I think I've worked out why I dislike Burroughs and his brand and cars. He's just not 'punk' enough. I was brought up on a DIY, 'make do and mend', 'be true to yourself', reject mainstream ethic. Which, in my cars (and taste in others' cars), doesn't lend itself to anything packaged, branded, forced down my throat, paint-by-numbers etc etc... which exactly what Stanceworks and MB's cars fall into. If someone says "this is what is cool" as opposed to "I think this is cool", I'm pretty inclined to think they're a douche and scribe them off my radar. You might as well go spend £70 on a Billabong hoodie because you think it makes you have that air of a 'cool surfer dude' as you walk around the Trafford Centre - the irony is that most 'surfer dudes' couldn't afford a Billabong hoodie if they saved up a years worth of spare cash! Mike Burroughs is the Avril Lavigne of Rock 'n' Roll ^^brillient^^ this car just doesnt do it for me.. sorry i can appreciate the effort that he has gone to though i wonder what car HE would build FOR HIM? si
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 18:32:51 GMT
|
Yanno, for me here, at first I was bewildered by (what in my opinion) were overly gushing ooofs and tissue comments about plain-janers with a set of wheels bolted on with poorly fitted tires and hacked springs.
And yet, I have become enamored of wibblepoo the more I wallow in it here.
To live in wibblepoo is to love wibblepoo.
The most "scene" car brand in all of the USA is BMW since it conveys sprezzatura and elan like a BBQ grillerman conveys BO. So for a hilljack from Tennessee to glop up a Bimmer with all sorts of tat and suffer his audience through his inner voice about "should I dispose" versus "should I fix" and all the other soap opera, well, it's just precious really.
And where else can I come to get such enjoyment, as to hear the Queen's subjects holding forth on a (very) lightly modded Bimmer by the Elvis of Stance? It is sublime to the point of an ethereal floating out of body experience.
For THIS is why I love R-R.
THIS is serious business!
(Edit: PS, for newbies, oh yes, I freely repeat what I've said here in the past: I am a dick. No question about it. ;D)
|
|
Last Edit: May 24, 2010 18:35:28 GMT by Team Blitz
Team Blitz Ford Capri parts worldwide: Restoration, Road, or Race. Used, Repro, and NOS, ranging from scabby to perfect. Itching your Capri jones since 1979! Buy, sell, trade. www.teamblitz.com blitz@teamblitz.com
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 18:37:36 GMT
|
'be true to yourself', reject mainstream ethic. But what if 'mainstream' is what you genuinely like? To be true to yourself you must then embrace mainstream surely? Therefore,it must be as bad being different for the sake of being different as it is liking something because everybody else says it's good? I tend to just like what i like,and dislike what i don't,without thinking 'is it different enough?' or 'does everybody else like it?'
|
|
|
|
|
|
May 24, 2010 18:46:33 GMT
|
...I tend to just like what I like,and dislike what I don't... Very Confucian! Kind of like Popeye, when he says, "I be what I be what I be."
|
|
Team Blitz Ford Capri parts worldwide: Restoration, Road, or Race. Used, Repro, and NOS, ranging from scabby to perfect. Itching your Capri jones since 1979! Buy, sell, trade. www.teamblitz.com blitz@teamblitz.com
|
|
|