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There is a world of suppliers out there dedicated to suplpying components to pass BIVA / SVA but much of our desirable items can be modified, with thought, to meet the standards. This is an interesting point, will we end up with BIVA/SVA approved parts available, like TuV approved parts. Nice gap in the market right there!
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look at the tail lights on Kev's pickup. nasty modern kit car ones? Erm, no. I don't see "trailer board" type orange indicators either, notice the external hinges, suicide doors, non-flush door handles, jerry can on the running boards, pedestrian unfriendly ("gut gouger") radiator topper...
if you can get that through inspection...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Thought I'd answered this one once ? Massive apologies, I don't remember your reply (have slept since then) can you remind me which thread you replied in. By direct mail I believe , I think I asked you to ring me to discuss it further ? PM me if you want a phone number to discuss. cheers Kev
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OK, so if I get a Vauxhall Victor and without touching the original monocoque I replace the front suspension (using a custom subframe derived from kit car application), rear axle (retaining original location points etc. but with new/custom trailing arms) the engine and the box... I have an unaltered uni-body, but more or less zero points. TBH at this stage I'm not too fussed about having to go into BIVA with it but I would want to retain the original vehicle ID... Is that a Q-plater or not? Or canit retain its original plate? That's a VERY good question. Depends what you mean by ID .Anything that goes through SVA /BIVA is ther because it either doesn't have a number being a fresh build, or has been caught and had a number removed so currently woudl have no identity. Once it was through the test it becomes a vehicle first registered of the year of passing. If 2 major components are used from a donor vehicle ( usually engine and gearbox) it would receive an aged related plate to the date of the donor book. You wouldn't be allowed to call the car a Vauxhall as it's a copyrighted name but a Voxall would be allowable . If you especially wanted to retain the reg number for the finished vehicle the answer is to put the plate on retention before stating to modify , ensure you use a donor logbook to avoid a Q and then transfer the number back on when finished. .
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look at the tail lights on Kev's pickup. nasty modern kit car ones? Erm, no. I don't see "trailer board" type orange indicators either, notice the external hinges, suicide doors, non-flush door handles, jerry can on the running boards, pedestrian unfriendly ("gut gouger") radiator topper... if you can get that through inspection... The gut gouger and oil can would be an issue on cars under BIVA . The style of handle would have to change to a swoopy rearward facing one with no forward projections for use on a car. External hinges are allowed but must project no more than 40mm on a slabsided motor or 50m on this type of thing, edges must all be radiussed as well. Suicide doors are allowable but must have method of warning to stop it being driven without latches in place ( mine has buzzers and lights ) . Lights do not have to be E marked ( apart from Fog light or Gas discharge headlights) but would have to meet C&U for minimum size / wattage . The rear tailights were chosen as they also include a built in reflector, a little planning goes a long way to the look of the finished motor motor.
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Last Edit: Jul 16, 2009 8:22:04 GMT by kapri
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Does a video exist of these tests? maybe a good idea to have a test filmed so we know how it goes and the major points they look at? Or is filming it a NONO? Just maybe an idea to have a list infront of you on paper and a simple menu to click on screen to see how they test that particular area? Should clear up any problems people have in regards to confusion. And maybe make the testers job easier if every (or at least most) cars coming in have been built by people aware of how the test works.?
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Last Edit: Jul 16, 2009 9:08:00 GMT by retrowagen1234
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Filming /photography is not allowed on Government premises unless their press office is involved.
Blow by blow account ? A mammoth task, it's simpler if those who go through the test show build up pictures to show how they dealt with issues. This has been done re the above pick up and the series is continuing to run in Custom car.
Many kit car mags feature breakdowns of what is needed and compilation editions are available , check out Totalkitcar website for info. It's unusual for car sto pass first time but you are given a failure list and have 6 months to fix the problems. Andys second letter in here gives you an idea of how an unprepared car faired.
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Jul 16, 2009 11:13:36 GMT
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You wouldn't be allowed to call the car a Vauxhall as it's a copyrighted name but a Voxall would be allowable . If you especially wanted to retain the reg number for the finished vehicle the answer is to put the plate on retention before stating to modify , ensure you use a donor logbook to avoid a Q and then transfer the number back on when finished. . cheers for that. The old V5 thing was to say "Vauxhall based special" so I guess that's out. So I could call it a "The DVLA are a bunch of monkey faced ass bandits" and they'd have to put that on my tax disc? Ace! Kinda like that guy who changed his name to "You are an curse word officer and yes I am drunk" for a bet. Or for charity. Or because he was an idiot. Not using "real" car names is going to make it fun when trying to sell it on Autotrader or insure it or whatever... or even trying to look it up on the DVLA tax database or MID as you have to supply the make as well as the registration....
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 16, 2009 11:21:56 GMT
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Not using "real" car names is going to make it fun when trying to sell it on Autotrader or insure it or whatever... or even trying to look it up on the DVLA tax database or MID as you have to supply the make as well as the registration.... Surely this is awesome! We can have actual old school custom car names ON THE TAX DISC!!
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Jul 16, 2009 11:35:44 GMT
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Not using "real" car names is going to make it fun when trying to sell it on Autotrader or insure it or whatever... or even trying to look it up on the DVLA tax database or MID as you have to supply the make as well as the registration.... Just name it "HISTORIC VEHICLE" and you might even get free tax
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Jul 16, 2009 12:28:34 GMT
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Not using "real" car names is going to make it fun when trying to sell it on Autotrader or insure it or whatever... or even trying to look it up on the DVLA tax database or MID as you have to supply the make as well as the registration.... Surely this is awesome! We can have actual old school custom car names ON THE TAX DISC!! You don't need a make to look up a reg on www.askmid.com, just the reg.....
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Jul 16, 2009 13:17:37 GMT
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i just use ebay and put in the make as other, works everytime
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Jul 16, 2009 13:22:56 GMT
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which is great, so if I advertise a modified Vauxhall as "other" and people are looking for a Vauxhall they won't find it in a search.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 16, 2009 13:28:28 GMT
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na i meant to find the plate.... and what the car is... if you put it in other with the title as vauxhall they will you could advertise a ford mondeo in the morris catagory if you wanted haha
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Jul 16, 2009 13:31:26 GMT
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true. Autotrader and some others won't though.
Its just daft, born a Vauxhall always a Vauxhall. Dig?
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Jul 16, 2009 14:34:40 GMT
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Yup. My understanding is that the copyright names bit applies only on radically altered/rebuilt/kit coversions etc. A vauxhall victor (that looks like a vauxhall victor) still says vauxhall victor on the logbook.
My rod is still an Austin a40 on the v5, just an open body instead of saloon.
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To get a standard A40 this low, you'd have to dig a hole to put it in
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Jul 16, 2009 15:58:50 GMT
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haha although it looks nothing like an a40, just amazingly better lol
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Jul 16, 2009 16:59:00 GMT
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Yup. My understanding is that the copyright names bit applies only on radically altered/rebuilt/kit coversions etc. A vauxhall victor (that looks like a vauxhall victor) still says vauxhall victor on the logbook. My rod is still an Austin a40 on the v5, just an open body instead of saloon. If it's inspected my DVLA and it doesn't go for SVA/BIVA that IS correct.That's because they believe it is essentially what it was under the points system soretains old identity. Once it is being registered as a new car after SVA / BIVA you cannot use copyright names.
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Oct 15, 2010 17:06:47 GMT
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engine swap, to the best of my knowledge is just a case of notifying the DVLA of the change of capacity and engine number. They seem to be asking for cars to be taken to an MOT station to "validate" the fact you have done it but I haven't done one since they apparently started doing this. Bit of an old thread to be bumping, but I wondered if anyone has some experience of this since it was written. Has anyone increased their engine size and had their local garage confirm the change to the DVLA? Were the DVLA ok about it? Was it a world of Swansea-flavoured pain and misery?
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Oct 15, 2010 17:47:47 GMT
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One of the more interesting threads lately.
I for one am certainly going to be requiring the services of the guys at ACE to get the 240z road legal.
Given the scope of applicability to the users on retro rides, can we motion that Retro Rides is added to the list of supporters at ACE? Mods? Thoughts?
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