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Apr 25, 2010 23:22:53 GMT
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no-update : I've been so fed up with this that i've done nothing for the last month. I have however, filled the spare space of the garage with the contents of the house as we are having major building work done. I've managed to make enough space to still be able to work on the car, and time permitting, I'll just bolt everything on again and if it starts and runs, I'll be amazed I've read many many books now on setting up SU carbs, I just need to put the word into practice.
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spiny
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1970 MG Midget 1275spiny
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Apr 26, 2010 19:26:51 GMT
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gah. got back from work and as it's a nice day, thought I'd put the carbs back on - cleaned everything and bolted it all together, it starts and runs a little better than before, but then the alternator bearings died a screechy death. will any lucas alternator fit ? can I get one from a mini/metro etc ? I haven't taken the old one off yet to get a model / part number. It feels like the car will never be finished ...
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Seth
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Apr 26, 2010 19:36:09 GMT
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will any lucas alternator fit ? can I get one from a mini/metro etc ? Gah indeed! There are left and right handed casings depending on which side of the engine the alternator sits (to suit the brackets). But any similar era alternator of the right casing should go on OK.
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Apr 26, 2010 20:01:48 GMT
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You will probably have a 15ACR (might be a 16,17, or 18 - higher output with each one) - with a big black plastic cover over the whole of the back end. The ACR range looks like this: It was fitted to Minis, metros and other cars until the 80s. The Lucas A127 from a mini/metro/maestro/fiesta/escort will in all probability fit - it's a little larger in diameter, but will fit assuming that there's no interference from nearby engine bits. The A127 was also fitted to most K-series engined rovers until at least the mid-90s, but they came with a multi-vee pulley. Unfortunately, AFAIK the ACR pulley and fan won't fit the A127 alternator - the latter's shaft is too big - so you'd need the pulley and fan if you were to buy a reconditioned alternator, since it wouldn't come with one. It is a slightly more reliable alternator, and in most guises produces more power than the ACR - I've got a 65A A127 on my Imp. If you go up in power you'll need to beef up the alternator to starter solenoid cable to stop it melting. The A127 looks like this from the rear: Most alternators can be changed from a LH to a RH casing, and vice-versa. Undo the 3 long bolts that run through it, and rotate the rear cover to align with the other mount on the front. Make sure that the broad steel ring in the middle (the stator) turns with the back half of the casing. Replace the bolts and tighten evenly and securely - but not too tight.
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spiny
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cheers I have a 17ACR (the engine is approx 1976 vintage from a Marina so this seems to be right) I'll pop down the breakers at the weekend and have a rummage, fiestas and escorts should hopefully be common enough to find an A127 if there aren't any Minis/Maestros about.
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spiny
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Apr 27, 2010 19:07:05 GMT
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just been to my lockup to have a rummage as I remembered I had an unused alternator stashed away, brought it home, and of course its the wrong 'side' hopefully the weather will hold for the weekend so I can potter round the scrappy.
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spiny
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well, after fqannying about with scrapyard alts that look like they should fit but are 5mm to long etc, I gave in and just bought a new one of course, it was sided incorrectly, but the swapping the case about operation went smoothly and it's now fitted (after some slight chassis tweaking) access is certainly a lot more restricted with the engine in place though ..
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spiny
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Jun 14, 2010 14:43:22 GMT
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I haven't given up instead, this is taking up a bit of my time and all of my money: have a new upstairs added to our house, which means the contents on most of it are in the garage, making doing anything a pain.
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spiny
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Sept 16, 2010 11:35:43 GMT
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still no MG news, this building work will never end it seems ... But I have had time to play with my van, stuck a new front arch on it last weekend, and th new front panel should be on my christmas
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Sept 26, 2010 6:17:39 GMT
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hi spiny just read about restoration today really enjoyed the story . I have struggled with a 1972 Midget since 1982 and still have it in the back yard . Found with the seats the trick is turn them upside down, balance the rails so the are upright and weld a bit of steel betwwen them so they cant fall over when you try and put them in . Best to get them the same position on both sides if you remember though as otherwise you have to drill a few holes. Having trouble with my leaf spring at the moment but got the old girl started yesterday after a few months with no action. Like your idea with the Kombi rear valance and love your welding must have a go at that as the clutch went yesterday and motor needs to come out... curses.
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spiny
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cheers badge I'll give the seats trick a go, as they need to come out again so I can paint the floor. updates: work on my house is nearly done, so most of the stuff is out of the garage, and there is now a little more room to start working on the MG again: A while ago I got an HIF38 carb off ebay and have spent a few hours this week trial fitting it. though for some reason, the throttle doesn't return properly. I bought a new accel cable thinking it might be that, but it isn't. I have made guides for the cable so it enters the carb at the right angle, but still no joy, so I've added a second throttle return spring: it's a spring from an anglepoise lamp and some 'bar' from a disposable bbq stand it needs a stronger spring though, as I think this one will stretch. I'm alos going to strip, lubericate and replace the accel pedal as that could be the , ah, sticking point here
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Feb 22, 2011 10:35:05 GMT
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Isn't that spring going to be in the way of the airfilter?
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spiny
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1970 MG Midget 1275spiny
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Feb 22, 2011 10:42:33 GMT
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Isn't that spring going to be in the way of the airfilter? almost certainly I need to have a rummage down the scrapyard, metro have a sort of 'elbow' piece that fits on the carb that might add some clearance. Otherwise I'll need to look into putting a return spring on the pedal end somewhow.
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Feb 22, 2011 11:02:15 GMT
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Can you not fit a compression spring at the end of the throttle cable?
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spiny
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1970 MG Midget 1275spiny
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Feb 22, 2011 11:48:52 GMT
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Can you not fit a compression spring at the end of the throttle cable? i'll add one when I strip and clean the pedal assembly
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spiny
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May 16, 2011 11:28:45 GMT
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right, slight update the garage is now mine again and free of boxes of plates and sets of chairs and stuff. Fitted the HIF38 I got from ebay months ago and had another play, but the car is still running really badly. The plugs are always sooted up and fiddling with the carb didn't help. So I had a brainwave and checked the fuel regulator - I have a 'facet cube pump' and a malpassi regulator but I think that it's overfuelling, I turned the regulator down as low as it will go and the plugs sooted up -less- but it still ran badly, so i have thrown more money at it and bought a low pressure pump which should turn up this week. It should be simple to make it work, but like the fool I am, I have fiddled with everything at the same time, so I now need to start again and be a bit more methodical so plan is: 1: get fuelling right (even if this means drip feeding from a jerry ccan) 2: 'reset' carb screws and staticly set it up 3: static time the engine 4: see how it goes. 5-10000000000: change the points, check valve clearances and all the other things that could be making it run badly
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spiny
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1970 MG Midget 1275spiny
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May 18, 2011 21:04:42 GMT
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ok, new pump fitted temporarily, it's slightly quieter than the other one which is nice just ran the engine for a minute as it's late, but it did seem to be running slightly better, but it's hard to tell when it's on full choke, so it's probably just my ever hopeful imagination fitted in place of old pump: engine running
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spiny
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tiny update: after some top help from the tech section on here and unexpectedly, my girlfriends dad, the engine is now a lot happier. turns out for the last two years or so, I've been trying to get it running nicely with only three plugs working ... looks like i must have knocked one when moving the engine about before fitting it, the tip was ever so slightly bent out of shape. sooooooooo, I bled the brakes last week and they seem happier, I now need to finish putting a new skin on the drivers door, fit some seat belts and then wait for a quiet sunday morning to drive down the lane to make sure it doesn't fold in half at 20mph or crab into a ditch when i tap the brakes
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are you still looking for a airfilter angle tube if so I might have on in by box of spares in my workshop will have a look later. Loving the thread makes me want to get out and start on my Midget only problem is Ive got a Scimitar GTC that taking alot longer to complete and also got my friends austin healy sitting in the way.
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A HIF38 is probably a bit on the small side for a 1275cc - most of these were fitted to economy-oriented 998cc Metros; you'll probably find a HIF44 to be better (I have one on my 1275cc MG Midget engine with MG Metro needle and it runs very nicely, while returning up to 40mpg).
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