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1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!

bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 10, 2007 16:31:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	This is my latest addition to my fleet, a very solid 1967 Singer Vogue with dodgy paint! Think of it as an upmarket Hillman Hunter It's got a single carb 1725 and non-o/d 4 speed. Interior is nearly mint and the only rot I've found is a bit it the front of the front wings around the headlamps - repair panels are available for this Plans? Repair the rot, re-spray all over, Holbay head and twin carbs, 185-70-13s on nice period alloys and a slight drop in ride height. Maybe a small track increase depending on the wheel/tyre set up. Oh yeah, and a nicer steering wheel! My boy Jack approves! Baz
	Last Edit: Sept 29, 2015 20:25:33 GMT by bazzateer 1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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	Sept 10, 2007 17:13:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Nice straight looking car with LOTS of potential!


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xbo11ox Posted hell of a lot Literally 'an embarrassment' Posts: 6,985	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!xbo11ox @xbo11ox
	Sept 10, 2007 19:52:26 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I was loving that on the bay, got a bit pricey for me though as i am a tightwad. Nice work!
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mrabody Part of things Posts: 909	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!mrabody @mrabody
	Sept 10, 2007 20:27:13 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	You're the third person to buy that car off of eBay! It appears to be in pretty good nick though. I'm not sure if it is worth the trouble of going to a Holbay Head cause you then need to change the pistons to keep the compression up, and the inlet ports are smaller so you are basically restricted to the factory twin weber setup unless you fabricate a manifold for bike cars. The Holbay also has a different cam grind. I'm pretty sure Dave Vizard did an article on porting the stock alloy head that will allow it to produce about as much power as a Holbay. If you are interested I think I have a twin stromberg inlet and the matching carbs. I've also got the matching exhaust manifold but you'll have to wait for that until I have my recently acquired Sceptre engine swapped into my minx. I also know someone who has a bunch of bits for these cars, such as OD gearboxes, and possibly a heavier duty antiroll bar. PM if you are interested.
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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 10, 2007 22:35:18 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	mrabody said: You're the third person to buy that car off of eBay! It appears to be in pretty good nick though. I'm not sure if it is worth the trouble of going to a Holbay Head cause you then need to change the pistons to keep the compression up, and the inlet ports are smaller so you are basically restricted to the factory twin weber setup unless you fabricate a manifold for bike cars. The Holbay also has a different cam grind. I'm pretty sure Dave Vizard did an article on porting the stock alloy head that will allow it to produce about as much power as a Holbay. If you are interested I think I have a twin stromberg inlet and the matching carbs. I've also got the matching exhaust manifold but you'll have to wait for that until I have my recently acquired Sceptre engine swapped into my minx. I also know someone who has a bunch of bits for these cars, such as OD gearboxes, and possibly a heavier duty antiroll bar. PM if you are interested. Bit of a bargain in my book, the winning bidder changed his mind and the seller offered it to me at my high bid but we did a deal and I got it for *considerably* less than my original bid. The mechanical (engine/box) upgrades are for the future when I have a garage to work in. For now it'll be wheels/tyres and a few other bits as money is getting tight again! MRABODY: I'm interested in any bits you may have access to but I cannot find the PM section on here at the moment! Feel free to email me at: bazzateer@hotmail.com Cheers guys Baz
	1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,961 Club RR Member Number: 174	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!stealthstylz @stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member 174
	Sept 10, 2007 22:58:19 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Looks cool. What differences are they between this and a humber sceptre of the same body shape? Matt


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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 11, 2007 7:15:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	The Sceptre has a different face with twin headlamps and grille and IIRC it has the o/d box as standard and Twin Strommies. The GLS had the Holbay head and some variants *may* have had twin 40s (but I may have dreamt that!). I think the Sceptre often had a vinyl roof too along with (probably) a slightly better dash with a tacho?. Here's a Sceptre from last night at the Ace This is all from memory so don't take it as Gospel. Baz
	Last Edit: Sept 12, 2007 8:50:58 GMT by bazzateer 1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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mrabody Part of things Posts: 909	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!mrabody @mrabody
	Sept 11, 2007 10:49:58 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	The Holbay engine which came in the GLS and the H120 had the following changes from stock. Holbay specific head with smaller inlet ports and revised combustion chambers Holbay specific pistons (to bring the compression ratio back up with the large chambers in the Holbay head) Lumpier Cam Twin 40s Tubular exhaust manifold. Some also came with an alloy sump. Other engine variants are as follows Iron head 1496 (I think) came stock in Minx and Gazelles and later low spec Hunters Iron head 1725 was fitted in place of the 1496 in cars equipped with an automatic transmission Alloy head single carb 1725 standard in Vogue, mid range hunters and fastback Alpine Alloy head twin carb 1725 standard in Rapier, Hunter GT (and GL?) and Sceptre. Had different cam, and exhaust manifold to the single carb version. Also, Alloy and Iron head cams don't interchange as they inlet/exhaust valve sequence is different between the two motors. All 1967 Arrow range vehicles with the 1725 also came with the alloy sump, and probably 1968 cars as well. So your Singer should have one.
	Last Edit: Sept 11, 2007 10:51:25 GMT by mrabody 1995 Range Rover 4.0 1995 BMW 320i Saloon 1989 BMW 325i Touring 1991 Mercedes 300TE-24 1991 Mercedes 190e 1970 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1966 Valiant 200 Custom 1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Station Wagon

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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 11, 2007 12:40:56 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	mrabody said: All 1967 Arrow range vehicles with the 1725 also came with the alloy sump, and probably 1968 cars as well. So your Singer should have one. I think it does, if I remember to I'll have a look tonight! Thanks for the other info' - at least I wasn't dreaming about the twin 40s, well......not then anyway! Baz
	1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,961 Club RR Member Number: 174	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!stealthstylz @stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member 174
	Sept 11, 2007 18:33:51 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Cheers thats great info. What sort of power does an alloy head, twin carb 1725 sceptre engine make? Matt


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mrabody Part of things Posts: 909	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!mrabody @mrabody
	Sept 11, 2007 20:24:56 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	stealthstylz said: Cheers thats great info. What sort of power does an alloy head, twin carb 1725 sceptre engine make? Matt About 95 hp I think. Only about 10 or 15 less than the Holbay.
	1995 Range Rover 4.0 1995 BMW 320i Saloon 1989 BMW 325i Touring 1991 Mercedes 300TE-24 1991 Mercedes 190e 1970 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1966 Valiant 200 Custom 1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Station Wagon

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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 12, 2007 8:55:11 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Had a look under Madge last night and the sump is ally coloured and ribbed (for her pleasure? ) so I guess it's an ally sump! Baz
	1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 14,961 Club RR Member Number: 174	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!stealthstylz @stealthstylz Club Retro Rides Member 174
	Sept 12, 2007 12:57:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Chuff me thats quite a lot mine should be fine for driving in traffic then. Matt


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qwerty Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 2,420 Club RR Member Number: 52	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!qwerty @qwerty Club Retro Rides Member 52
	Sept 12, 2007 14:50:13 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Got a realy soft spot for Hunters/Vouges they're so unloved but look really cool!! Wheels shouldn't be hard because IIRC they're 4x108 pcd?
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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 12, 2007 15:00:20 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Picking up a set of 6x13 RS alloys on Friday and may end up with some other ones by the weekend too! Depending on what I get I may be eBaying one or more sets in the next week or so. Baz
	1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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Mr K Posted a lot Posts: 2,993	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!Mr K @nickyboi
	Sept 13, 2007 12:21:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	COOL! a guy who used to work for us had a sunbeam alpine with a holbay motor on twin 40s; it sat for ages and ages in a shed up at our place after he had it resrayed; it got nearly complete and then he stopped. it must have been in there atleast 15 years. about 6 months ago we needed it gone and i had a nosey around it; it was rotten as a pair and the shed had no roof! what a waste. a friend tried to buy it but he wanted silly money. its sitting on his driveway now under a sheet having been evicted; god only knows what hes going to do with it! i like the sound of the nice period tuning parts and mods on this!!


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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 13, 2007 13:58:32 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Cheers I'm going to have to stop 'shopping' after this weekend as the money is running out fast! I've also got an Imp to look after! Baz
	1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 17, 2007 15:16:33 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	These are the wheels I'm going to put on her. Have to wait 'till pay day before I can afford the tyres though! (185-70-13) Maybe next payday actually Baz
	1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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briandamaged Guest	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!briandamaged @GUEST
	Sept 17, 2007 15:43:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	You have PM.


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bazzateer Posted a lot Imping along sans Vogue Posts: 3,653	1967 Singer Vogue - She's a rotten little whore!bazzateer @bazzateer
	Sept 24, 2007 23:26:20 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Madge took me to Wales and back this weekend including a trip to see Brian and collect some wheels/tyres (cheers Brian ). 700 miles in all and she went really well until about 8 miles from home in London when the clutch gave up. Looks like the slave has gone but I'll probably change the master too, just to be safe! Baz
	1968 Singer Chamois Sport 1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport 1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2 1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome 2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily) 2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily) 2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)

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