bazzateer
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Sept 26, 2007 14:51:01 GMT
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Thinking about a general lowering/uprating of the suspension. Like the supple ride so thinking of thicker anti-roll bar, uprated shocks/strut inserts, and maybe 2" off the rear plus 3" off the front. I'm after any suggestions as to how to achieve this with as little monetary outlay as possible! I suppose lowering blocks on the rear will cover that end plus some uprated shocks (where from  ). At the front, uprated inserts (again, where from ), thicker anti-roll bar and lowered springs. Poly bushes all round. Basically I need to know what can be done, what bits do I need to buy and where from. Any help/advice gratefully received. Baz  |
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stealthstylz
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Sept 26, 2007 15:05:32 GMT
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I've looked for all the suspension stuff you mention - can't find any info anywhere lol. I'm going to convert to coilovers on the front using a rally design weld on kit. I'm going to have the shock absorber piston machined to shorten it, then try and sort something out to stiffen it a bit. Will also poly bush, and for the anti roll bar will have to measure whats on there and try and get something to fit of another car, or buy a spare and clamp 2 together. For the rear i'm going to de-camber the leaf springs, fit lowering blocks, a panhard rod and traction bars. I want mine to drop about 6". However for just 2" you could just fit lowering blocks from rally design. I really like how these rootes cars look but parts are a pain in the  to get. Matt |
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bazzateer
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Sept 26, 2007 15:24:42 GMT
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Are Avenger front struts interchangable with the Hunter ones?
Baz
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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stealthstylz
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Sept 26, 2007 15:28:57 GMT
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I'll have a look. Where were you planning on getting your polybushes from I can't find any anywhere?
Matt
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bazzateer
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Sept 26, 2007 21:31:41 GMT
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I'm hoping to measure up the standard ones and see which ones fit, I'm pretty sure they can be made 'bespoke' as well. Maybe someone like Chris Witor can advise?
Baz
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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Sept 26, 2007 21:36:39 GMT
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As far as I know Avenger struts are different.
Spax makes struts and rear shocks. Superflex sells poly bushes. Sceptres, Rapiers and possibly high spec hunters have thicker antiroll bars and stiffer front springs. Rapiers have four leaf rear springs and estates have four or five)
I have a friend who picked up a factory front strut brace on eBay. We would like to get it reproduced so let me know if you are interested and how much you would like to pay.
On my Minx I intend to do the following in the near future. Fit some reconditioned heavy duty front struts I picked up off eBay (there is a guy in Sutton, Surrey who sells them from time to time so keep a lookout), replace the front bushes with the polyurethane ones, fit the thicker anti-roll bar, and some 4 leaf rear springs. I'll use the heavier duty front springs but cut one coil off of them.
You may be able to use front coils from other cars. I have an avenger that has front coils from a 2.8L Capri swapped onto the struts.
In any event, coils and leaf springs are relatively cheap to have made up.
If you are interested in getting the polyurethane bushes maybe we could band together and do a group buy. My friend may be interested and he has two cars, so that would be five sets in total. It might save us a little money.
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kevfromwales
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Sept 26, 2007 23:03:11 GMT
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sorry to jump in here guys! we have a place up the road that makes poly bushes - deflex - they are a little tricky to deal with, but when I get the hunter struts off, I will go up and match up the poly's he has to the hunter - should be looking at aroung 15 quid for the front I reckon! do we think just cutting the coils on the front and blocks on the back would suffice for CHEAP lowering??? - 2-3" - kev ps - baz have some twin carbs and inlet for an imp - make me a cheap offer??? |
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bazzateer
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Sept 26, 2007 23:03:37 GMT
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Hi Drew, Interested in the strut brace - would like to pay as little as possible  The uprated shocks/shortened h/d front springs and h/d rears plus thicker arb all appeal to me too. Realistically I'll probably do the arb and shocks first, springs last. Baz |
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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bazzateer
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Sept 26, 2007 23:09:02 GMT
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Drew, May be interested in a group buy of polys. Kev, Sounds interesting, let us know if/when you get a firm price? Re the twin carbs etc: Thanks but no thanks mate, I'm going to fit a single fat SU and eventually do bike carbs. To be honest, unless they've been recently reconditioned those twin carbs won't fetch much (assuming they're the standard Strombergs). Stick 'em on the 'Bay mate............. Baz |
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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Sept 26, 2007 23:12:01 GMT
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bazzateer
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Sept 27, 2007 7:38:43 GMT
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Good point Frank.
Baz
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Last Edit: Sept 27, 2007 22:53:04 GMT by bazzateer
1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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kevfromwales
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Sept 27, 2007 12:38:17 GMT
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cheers baz - I'll keep you posted - thanks for the info ref the carbs - when I turned up at a mates in the hunter, he siad - is it the twin carb one, no says I - ok, have these then - and brings out the twin strombergs, manifold and another pair of stroms from under a tarp in his garden! - ebay here we come
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Almost on the road: b11 sunny breadvan, e36 tds, 325i skidcar,
nearly there: ford f250 tathauler, suzuki alto, u11 bluey
not for a while: ford pop, 32 rails,
not in this lifetime: ruby, '29 hillman
''unfortanatly I'm quite old and scruffy and in need of some loving. my drive shaft needs a new boot....''
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stealthstylz
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Sept 27, 2007 13:24:55 GMT
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I'm interested in a group buy. I've also found a place that will do me a custom grind camshaft so all the bits to rebuild the engine are nearly sorted.
Matt
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bazzateer
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Sept 27, 2007 13:37:49 GMT
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A friend in The Imp Club ( www.theimpclub.co.uk) has a Hunter estate. He could be interested in a group purchase too. Kev, see if you can get a price for all the bushes, inc the anti-roll bar? Keep us posted! Baz |
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Last Edit: Sept 27, 2007 13:39:28 GMT by bazzateer
1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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Sept 27, 2007 20:21:41 GMT
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A complete set of bushes from superflex (lower control arm bushes, tie bar bushes, antiroll bar link bushes, and antiroll bar to chassis bushes) is £67.92 shipping. I will phone them once we have a firmer idea of how many sets are wanted and see if I can work a deal.
Bazz, do you need any Imp bits as well?
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1995 Range Rover 4.0
1995 BMW 320i Saloon
1989 BMW 325i Touring
1991 Mercedes 300TE-24
1991 Mercedes 190e
1970 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1966 Valiant 200 Custom
1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Station Wagon
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bazzateer
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Sept 27, 2007 20:32:20 GMT
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Cheers Drew, I think I'm OK for Imp bits at the moment (although some spares were stolen a few weeks ago  ). I'm just fitting electronic ignition to LNK (the white Sport) at the moment - hopefully then she'll get an MOT. LYH is the red one, she's a long term project for which I've lots of plans. Have a look here www.theimpclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4030&highlight= for info on these cars. If you're planning on getting rid of any Imp bits let me know - I may have a need for them . You should get on the Imp Club site, it's a good one. Hopefully I'll be re-locating most of my spares to a new lock-up on Sunday - may even have room for LYH! Then I'm going to concentrate on getting LNK MOT'd. Once that's done I'll sort out Madge (the Vogue) with new clutch master and slave cylinders before fitting the new wheels and tyres. Baz |
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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Sept 27, 2007 22:29:07 GMT
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I didn't mean imp bits generally (haven't got any extras except a couple bumpers), but poly bushes. Seems to me if we are ordering a bunch, might as well get everything we can and hopefully get a better deal.
Drew
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1995 Range Rover 4.0
1995 BMW 320i Saloon
1989 BMW 325i Touring
1991 Mercedes 300TE-24
1991 Mercedes 190e
1970 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1966 Valiant 200 Custom
1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Station Wagon
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bazzateer
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Sept 27, 2007 22:52:45 GMT
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In that case I'd be interested in a price for two full car sets for my Imps and one full car set for the Vogue. Just hope I can afford it all!
Baz
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1968 Singer Chamois Sport
1972 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1976 Datsun 260Z 2+2
1998 Peugeot Boxer Pilote motorhome
2003 Rover 75 1.8 Club SE (daily)
2006 MG ZT 190+ (another daily)
2007 BMW 530d Touring M Sport (tow car)
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stealthstylz
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Sept 28, 2007 9:41:34 GMT
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I'm definetley interested at that price seems excellent.
Matt
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Sept 29, 2007 19:34:00 GMT
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Baz,
A compete Imp set of bushes comes to £123.36. However that is for both front and rear, and also includes the inner tierod bushes for the steering rack which add almost £40 to the price. That price includes VAT whereas, looking at the pricelist for the Hunter bushes, it would appear to not include VAT. I'm definitely planning on ordering a set for the Hunter and the front bushes for the Imp. However I have contacted Superflex to see what type of savings we can get on a group buy, so if it saves me money I'll buy the rest of the Imp bits as well.
Drew
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Last Edit: Sept 29, 2007 19:35:15 GMT by mrabody
1995 Range Rover 4.0
1995 BMW 320i Saloon
1989 BMW 325i Touring
1991 Mercedes 300TE-24
1991 Mercedes 190e
1970 Sunbeam Imp Sport
1966 Valiant 200 Custom
1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Station Wagon
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). I'm just fitting electronic ignition to LNK (the white Sport) at the moment - hopefully then she'll get an MOT. LYH is the red one, she's a long term project for which I've lots of plans. Have a look here