|
|
|
|
|
What a fascinating thread  I'm amazed at the 2 bearing crank as well! As a bit of an aside, to keep the original ring to the thread title you could call it 'What's that sticking out of the ground, is it a Clyno?'  or even 'What's that sticking out of the ground? (It is a Clyno)' |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25, 2021 11:52:30 GMT
|
We have purchased the nine in the picture in Australia if need any info we may be able to help This is amazing!!! |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
Jun 25, 2021 21:44:44 GMT
|
We have purchased the nine in the picture in Australia if need any info we may be able to help Wow, how cool is that! Thanks, it would be great to see some more photos of the car. It looks like a distributor engine, is that correct? How come you found the thread? |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Jun 25, 2021 22:27:27 GMT
|
What a fascinating thread I'm amazed at the 2 bearing crank as well! Not unusual in that era. Due to the RAC hp formula, engines tended to be narrow bore, long stroke so the distance between the front & rear bearings isn't as much as might be expected & usually relatively low revving (at least compared to modern car engines). Riley's 1087cc 9hp engine was also a twin bearing unit, but did rev properly and various Riley cars using that engine were still able to come 4th overall at Le Mans in '33 (behind three straight 8 Alfas) & 5th & 6th in '34 (six cylinder Rileys were 2nd & 3rd). |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
Aug 20, 2021 13:44:59 GMT
|
Not a huge amount has happened with this as the inevitable "other projects", which have been waiting longer, have been being worked on instead. A bit of progress though. Had a half page in Classic and Sports Car, which was nice. Between this and the page in The Automobile I've had a few people contact me with bits of info, sadly no parts.   |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
Aug 20, 2021 14:11:49 GMT
|
First exploration of the rear axle suggested the internals might be preserved.  All the nuts and bolts undid relatively easily and nocked out without issue and the axle split in half. The oil/grease had done a fantastic preservation job with no water ingress.  I haven't got a photo but I took the diff out and it spins beautifully.  I left the casings to drain for a few days, most of the gloop didn't budge. At some point I'll clean it all out. The thread on the end of the half shaft will need some work, otherwise they are both usable.  |
| |
Last Edit: Aug 20, 2021 14:17:36 GMT by rob
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 18, 2021 15:53:06 GMT
|
|
Any progress with this? I'm hoping further digging had turned up more.
|
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
Oct 19, 2021 21:13:25 GMT
|
Any progress with this? I'm hoping further digging had turned up more. Thanks for asking! Limited physical progress in that I'm slowly trying to get the engine apart, but it is resisting as you might expect. I have had another look for buried bits, some small odds and sods and there is definitely something under the tree trunk but it is to big to move. This time last year some lovely gentlemen decided to visit the workshop at night and relieve me of my chainsaw. I will need to borrow one to chop away some of the tree trunk. Positive progress though in that I have now managed to track down 2 Clyno Nine's in the UK and have managed to visit both of them as they are relatively local to me. I've now got a fairly good library of photos and diagrams to work from. In other news a guy who I work with has shown some interest in the project and is producing some CAD designs of some of the missing/irreplaceable parts so I can see how much it would cost to have new made. I'll try and get a visual update together soonish. |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
Nov 10, 2021 15:02:39 GMT
|
Hi Rob Just found your post on the Clyno. I run the AJS 9 Car Club - see www. AJS-Car-Club and we have engines, 3 speed gearbox's and all parts you require in our stores. If you look on our website, there is the complete parts list for the engine, chassis parts etc. You may be aware, AJS made about 1000 of their cars using the Coventry Climax engines, then went into administration in 1932. Willys OC purchased the stock from the administrators and built about 300 Ajs/Willys cars. Please email me - pahubbard(at)icloud.com for more info if required. Pictures are my AJS 2 seater plus a "Race" engine for an AJS Hillclimb car I am building for VSCC events. I made the added external replaceable oil filter. Peter Hubbard - Chairman AJS Car Club   |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
Nov 11, 2021 20:25:49 GMT
|
That's bloody fantastic! Hi Rob Just found your post on the Clyno. I run the AJS 9 Car Club - see www. AJS-Car-Club and we have engines, 3 speed gearbox's and all parts you require in our stores. If you look on our website, there is the complete parts list for the engine, chassis parts etc. You may be aware, AJS made about 1000 of their cars using the Coventry Climax engines, then went into administration in 1932. Willys OC purchased the stock from the administrators and built about 300 Ajs/Willys cars. Please email me - pahubbard(at)icloud.com for more info if required. Pictures are my AJS 2 seater plus a "Race" engine for an AJS Hillclimb car I am building for VSCC events. I made the added external replaceable oil filter. Peter Hubbard - Chairman AJS Car Club |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rob, you have a pm.
|
| |
Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
|
|
was8v
Part of things
Posts: 46
|
|
|
|
|
I know you are a way off... but how would you ever get this on the road?
Do you have engine number and chassis number to lookup in records somewhere...?
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
It would come under reconstructed classic.
|
| |
Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
What a great read! Looking forward to more more updates |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
It would come under reconstructed classic. Given what is left if the original number can be traced from either manufacturers records or local archives etc then there should be a decent case for getting it reissued on a non transferable basis. |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
|
|
So by way of a small update you might have read earlier on that I met Chris Smith: I recently met with a gentleman called Chris Smith. Chris is the grandson of Ailwyn Smith co-founder of the original Clyno motorbike company, though Ailwyn had moved onto pastures new by the time Clyno switched to building cars after WW1. Chris has been a font of knowledge and happened to have owned a couple of Clyno Nine’s in the past amongst other Clyno cars and motor bikes. Chris was willing to part with some of the Clyno Nine spares he had collected and it has definitely made the project slightly more feasible.  Thanks to Mr Crockpot there might also be a bit more to add to this story in the future. Well crockpot contacted me to say that a friend of Mrs Crockpot's was also a descendent of the Clyno founders. As it turns out Chris and the lady in question had never met, and Mr Crockpot says "they have met up a few times now. They both found out about sides of the company and family they didn't know. Best of all it turns out he only lives a few streets away!" If nothing else it feels like it was worth digging up the rusty remains just to achieve that. |
| |
Last Edit: Dec 7, 2021 15:42:17 GMT by rob
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
|
|
I know you are a way off... but how would you ever get this on the road? Do you have engine number and chassis number to lookup in records somewhere...? If you have enough money you can do anything, I don't have enough money so I'm taking a fairly academic approach. Can I separate the clumps of car into constituent parts? Once separated could those parts be made to function again as part of working vehicle within a reasonable budget? It's at the point before spending any real money I'm going to have to really look at the route to registration. At the moment it's a bit of fun that's been having some interesting outcomes at not to much expense. I'd love to make the engine run..... |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
Apr 11, 2022 21:03:56 GMT
|
Well things have been progressing and evolving steadily with this. In terms of the exhumed remains this sums it up.  I'm slowly clearing away the rot to find what could be reusable. I'll photograph the parts at a later date. A little while ago the AJS club contacted me with the offer to supply me with some parts (AJS bought the remains of the Clyno company and carried on producing cars for a short time). Very helpful guys and I went to look at their collection of parts, but unfortunately it seems that although visually a lot looks similar there will only be a few bits that are the same. Still better than nothing and the contact is greatly appreciated! In other developments I seem to have ended up with the remains of 2 more Clyno Nines. Both are in pieces and have different things going for them and will need work/parts. Which ever route I go there's still a lot of work but the idea of getting a "Nine" back on the road is now a relatively feasible idea. I'm starting to work on making some of the missing parts and will document that fairly soon. |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
Apr 11, 2022 21:21:25 GMT
|
If you are following this thread it might be assumed that you are of the perversion that enjoys looking at the long dead corpses of vintage cars. I've been making steady progress on another project which I'll be doing updates on soon: 1930 Standard Arrow  |
| |
|
|
rob
Part of things
Posts: 160
|
|
May 18, 2022 22:14:10 GMT
|
I’ve been meaning to do an update for a while but time seems to run away. So I’m going to go for a slightly compressed one to at least keep things sort of up to date. I think I’ve mentioned somewhere that Clyno used “Coventry Climax” engines (I’m itching to come up with a smutty t-shirt slogan based around “Coventry Climax”, I haven’t quite sussed it yet though). Well this came my way recently.  It fits with the lineage, is the same length as the original engine, about half the weight at least and would potentially be a bit of fun. There’s no definite plan at the moment though. A brand new set of springs for the Clyno would be in the region of £800+. I’ve looked down the back of the sofa, there was £1.57, some hair clips, half a packet of mini cheddars and some felt tips. I took a tape measure to the Morris Minor at the back of the shed. The leaf springs are the same width as the Clyno and the same thickness. I managed to aquire 4 rear Moggy springs for £30. There’s enough leaves to make all the springs I would need, to at least mock up a Clyno, we can worry about new ones at a later date. The front ones will need the eye’s re-rolling shorter (a blacksmith I know has offered to do this for me). The rear ones are quarter elliptical and just need trimming. The eye is slightly larger but I can live with that, the bolt is even in the correct place. Under compression they had the same curve as the Clyno ones I dug up. I’ve done some tests at re-arching springs in the press, as in the video below (not me), I’m sure I can get them somewhere near if shaping is needed.  A chassis I have needs the x-member replacing. I managed to make a template from one of the cars that I’ve visited locally. I wanted it to be accurate and there’s a few different approaches I could have taken. In a world where I have more time I would have liked to have made it in a method that was more true to the era, however my only "more time" is usually in the evenings when cutting, grinding etc isn’t possible. I needed to to get some laser cutting jobs done so in the interest of moving things forwards I drew it on the computer and had it delivered 2 weeks later. I’m going to set aside some time for welding for a couple of projects later in the summer and do it all in one go.  There's lot's of other little bits I might try and cover soon, but that's the gist of where we are now. |
| |
|
|
|
|
I'm amazed at the 2 bearing crank as well!
