Kieran
East of England
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Sept 20, 2018 13:21:47 GMT
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This is a current project car of mine, bought from ebay for £430 about 18 months ago. I know they are quite unfashionable at least partly on account of being wrong wheel drive, but I've always really liked the shape and it's quite a nice old thing to drive. Since aquiring it I've been working my way through all the broken stuff and a few modifications. The quad cam KL-DE V6 is a smooth and good sounding motor, but at 165 horse does lack grunt somewhat, so recently I've been procuring the necessary parts to go boosted with it It's a budget project but I'm trying to engineer it properly and not cut too many corners. I've plenty of pic's and details on the resto progress so far but not many good ones of it on the road. Here are a fews pic's of how it's looking at the moment anyhow, the main changes from standard are -35mm lowering springs and 16x8" RX7 FD wheels...
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Last Edit: Dec 6, 2018 11:20:06 GMT by Kieran
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thebaron
Europe
Over the river, heading out of town
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Sept 20, 2018 13:29:48 GMT
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Very interested in this. I was just looking at one of these super clean and very cheap. Yours looks spot on with the drop and wheels.
It has removed the standard "gawkiness".
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 20, 2018 13:44:20 GMT
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Thanks, yeah I think they do need a drop and somewhat chunkier wheels to look right. I think these are a bit of a bargain still at the moment, there aren't many other relatively rare retro 6 cylinder coupes that you can buy for a few hundred quid. The surviving ones don't tend to be too abused either.
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goldnrust
West Midlands
Minimalist
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Sept 20, 2018 14:12:25 GMT
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Those Rx7 wheels have never looked so good! Looks great like that, and I imagine with a turbo it’ll be kinda wild. Do these KZLE v6’s take to boost well? I know some of the other Nazda engines of the era respond really well to a bit of turbo action. I shall follow with interest
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 20, 2018 14:27:38 GMT
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I agree, I think these wheels look better on the MX6 than the RX7. They are wider than the standard 15x6.5" but with 5mm spacers the tyres just about clear the struts and come out almost flush with the arches.
These motors take low boost pretty well. They've a pretty solid bottom end with a forged crank, the compression ratio is 9.2:1 so not too high, and the standard timing is quite mild. I'm looking at doing low boost, around 5-8psi, which will be enough for 250+bhp. The tranny is the weak link once you start to go over 300 horse or so which I'm not planning on...
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2018 15:21:20 GMT by Kieran
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 20, 2018 16:48:50 GMT
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So after I bought the car I started gradually replacing the bad bits, here a bit of a summary of some of the work done that I took pictures of... When I first drove it I thought it sounded great, upon closer inspection though it turned out that the backbox had several holes in it and center pipe was rusted too so I bought and fitted a new ebay OEM spec cat-back system. The '6 had a old and broken Cobra 8501 alarm system so I pulled that out. The heater fan only worked on full so I replaced the resistor with a used one off a 626, wasn't quite the same part but it fitted the holes and works well. The AC didn't work and had bits missing so I deleted that. The front number plate holder was damaged, I decided to remove it and fit a more JDM style square plate. Some missing trim replaced including this interior fusebox cover. The offside CV boots were blown so I slipped a new driveshaft in, I've got one for the other side waiting patiently to be fitted too. There was some rusty ground connections and damaged wiring so I went through that.
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Last Edit: Sept 20, 2018 16:50:00 GMT by Kieran
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Sept 20, 2018 18:59:25 GMT
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Excellent.
A cool looking car, they looked ahead of their time when new. That Mazda V6 is a great motor, I had V6 Xedos and the engine was perfect @ 180k miles.
Bookmarked.
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 21, 2018 9:44:59 GMT
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Yeah I grown to really like these KL-DE V6's, great motor for sure. I really like the Xedos 6 V6 too, it's a really rare car these days! I've done quite a bit of work on the engine to refresh it and get things in good order for boost. I've given it a full service - belts, waterpump, oil, plugs, fuel filter, etc. I replaced some crusty old sensors, knackered distributor, noisy tensioner pulley bearing and asorted curse word. I cleaned up the top of the motor as it was a grubby affair, replaced the leaking valve cover gaskets that were making a mess of things and blew some new go-faster paint on the covers.
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Last Edit: Sept 21, 2018 16:34:28 GMT by Kieran
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 21, 2018 10:00:35 GMT
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 21, 2018 12:35:39 GMT
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So to the turbo build. Basically I'm planning a low budget, low boost setup, at least initially. The heart of the system is the exhaust manifold and downpipe arrangement, I did consider having a go at fabricating the necessary pipework but for me that would be quite a lot of work, it would be a bit of a project in it's own right. There are off-the-shelf ebay/China type stainless steel turbo exhausts that are supposedly decent enough and have been used by others without issue so this seemed like a cheap and effective way to go. Unfortunately there are none for sale here in the UK, so I've actually bought a set of used pipes from a chap in Canada, which have taken a couple of months to come over on the boat. They are apparently on English soil now according to the tracking info. These pipes have T3 flanges and mount the turbo high at the side of the engine in the battery location (I will be relocating the battery to the boot). They also have a 38mm external wastegate flange. As for the turbo, I looked at used Garretts but it was cheaper to get a new ebay/China T3/T4 hybrid. For fueling I really need bigger injectors. The only direct fit upgrade is the red top types from Mazda Xedos 9 2.3 miller cycle superchaged. I couldn't find any in Europe but managed to get a cheap used set from the US (The US market car was called a Millenia S), waiting on those to arrive still. The standard MX6 injectors are around 220cc, the Millenia S ones are circa 310cc. I bought a 3 hole din plate to mount the 52mm gauges, I've bonded this into the instrument bezel. I had to make some brackets to mount up the AFR gauge, I've a boost and oil pressure gauge to slot in too. I wanted it to look fairly discrete and OEM so I bought these black faced gauges, they have selectable backlight colours so I can run them green to match the dash instruments. Found a secondhand but unused 38mm screamer pipe for the wastegate on ebay the other day, have that now. I'm going to run an ebay Tial type 38mm external wastegate.
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Last Edit: Sept 21, 2018 14:54:17 GMT by Kieran
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Sept 21, 2018 13:18:45 GMT
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fiat coupe turbo, ford probe, vr6 corrado, rover tomcat, calibra v6, prelude, all wrong wheel drive ! i think its a 90s coupe thing, and there nowt wrong with the MX6 in my book
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 21, 2018 13:25:21 GMT
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The bigger Millenia S injectors have actually turned up this afternoon This is how the blue top standard MX6 injectors look... ...I now need to swap my new ones into these fuel rails. I'm thinking I'm might send them off to be properly checked and cleaned, as I'm just a bit concerned about running a cylinder lean under boost if one of these is clogged and doesn't flow correctly.
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2018 12:25:30 GMT by Kieran
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 21, 2018 13:39:02 GMT
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fiat coupe turbo, ford probe, vr6 corrado, rover tomcat, calibra v6, prelude, all wrong wheel drive ! i think its a 90s coupe thing, and there nowt wrong with the MX6 in my book Your right, there were a lot of FWD coupes around back then in the '90's, and RWD drive ones too of course, I remember them fondly! I guess the hot hatch has mostly killed off that type of car these days.
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Mike D
Club Retro Rides Member
Posts: 2,197
Club RR Member Number: 57
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Sept 27, 2018 11:09:49 GMT
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Looking good, it's pretty much the spit of my old one I had 10 years ago! A laguna front splitter fits the front bumper nicely and balances them out a bit
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 27, 2018 14:29:20 GMT
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Very nice pic', the '6 looks great there, I think I've seen that before online. I've bought an Impeza front lip to fit mine, they do look better with a lower chin.
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Sept 27, 2018 14:38:42 GMT
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Here's the lip I have still to fit. I offered it up to check the fitment, I'll just have to trim so that they finish in line with the edge of the bumper.
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Mike D
Club Retro Rides Member
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That lip looks to fit really well. I quite miss mine, it wasn't a ball of fire but it was torquey enough, sounded nice and handled really sweetly
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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Yeah it seems to fit surprising well, looking forward to getting it on. I think the MX6 is a good all-rounder and quite under-rated, I really like mine but just feel like it could do with a bit more shove, hence boost... So my turbo exhaust pipes finally turned up today, after taking over a month to arrive on the boat from Canada. Quite excited to have them now, looking forward to getting them nailed on soon. There's a few more bits and pieces I still need to buy for the turbo build. I recently bought an ebay 38mm external wastegate and a boost gauge. Parts I still need: intercooler, 2.5" intercooler piping, blow-off valve, catch-can, uprated fuel pump, 12:1 FMU, VAF-to-MAF converter.
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Last Edit: Oct 1, 2018 15:26:47 GMT by Kieran
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Kieran
East of England
Posts: 148
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I had a bit of a muck about with the turbo pipes last night, did a quick trial assembly so I could have a look see and work out what gaskets and fixing hardware I will need for the installation. The outlet from each manifold is 2" and the pipe that mates with the cat is 2.5". Although I've seen several differing setups including twin turbos, this is pretty much the standard layout for the MX6 (and with other transverse V6's cars as well) with the turbo mounted high on the right side of the engine. I'm enjoying the nice shiny look, looking forward to replacing the scabby manifolds and downpipe on the car with these. I'm planning on cleaning up the oil and rust under the front of the car when I fit these, I hope to start work on it next week once I have all the parts I've ordered.
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Last Edit: Oct 4, 2018 14:13:48 GMT by Kieran
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andyw
North East
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