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Theres nothing wrong with an oval speaker. Many high end domerstic audio makers have used oval drivers. Listen to something like a DLS or Rainbow 6x9... nice speakers. The problem with 6x9s comes down to two things really... 1. people install them badly / inadvisedly 2. many of them are designed to appeal to the chav end of the amrket and look flash not sound good. General rule of thumb with any audio gear is that the more effort that went into how it looks the less effort went into how it sounds. Bright colours, LEDs and the appearance of a transforming robot are all bad signs. Another thing is that a lot of the 6x9s seem to be in a contest to ram as many tweeters into one speaker as possible. I've seen "4 way" speakers in 6x9 and 8" and 6" and all its doing is masking the cone area and putting more trebble into it. Narsty. If you put a sub in the boot don't put 6x9s (or indeed any speakers) through the back shelf as the pressure wave from the sub will just hit the cones and distort the sound. Also the movement of the cones of the speakers in the shelf will disturb the air in the boot and this can reduce the clarity and accuracy of the bass from the sub. We can get into the business of building an accurate sound stage through component placing and why this means you shouldn't use rear speakers at all but thats a discussion for another forum really...  There are some nice Alpine speakers out (or were last time I looked) but they also do some very bright sounding nasty raggy things. The ones designed as OE replacement fit units tend to be nice clean sounding units and the ones with the fancy grilles and swivel ball tweeters on bright silver supports tend to be gash sounding tat for the barry market. (Bo got mi Alpines innnit) |
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There are some nice Alpine speakers out (or were last time I looked) but they also do some very bright sounding nasty raggy things. The ones designed as OE replacement fit units tend to be nice clean sounding units and the ones with the fancy grilles and swivel ball tweeters on bright silver supports tend to be gash sounding tat for the barry market. (Bo got mi Alpines innnit) I've got some pf those plain OE replacement Alpines and they are excellent! Personally I like most JBL components although some people who heard the 6 1/2" ones in my old red Sapphire and Civic thought they sounded a bit harsh. Might have been a bad pairing with the Rockford amp though. Also had some excellent Infinity 5 1/4" components a while back.... Just need to have a listen and see what you like - everyone's different! |
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Jan 25, 2007 16:25:47 GMT
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Blatant magazine pimping but Practical Classics has a feature in the April issue (out Feb 14) which tells you how to fit a subtle stereo to your mowtah. It's a good-un actually.
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Jan 25, 2007 16:53:24 GMT
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What you want here is to remove all the innards from that. Then fix in an i-pod connector going to some RCA style outputs so you can slide your i-pod into the tape slot. |
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Jan 25, 2007 17:30:00 GMT
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A little while ago Lidl had these in stock and it's likely they will again at some point...  You may well laugh, but I've got one in my truck and it's proved to be a great head unit so far. Plays MP3 off CD, MMC or SD card or even off a flash memory stick (it has a full size USB port). It has phono line in for an auxiliary device and outputs for two amps if you like that sort of thing. It comes with a remote and you can even record off the radio onto the card or flash memory. All for an astoundingly cheap £50! I couldn't find anything as good as this much under £100 anywhere else. I like it particularly as it has a knob for volume. I hate stereos with buttons for volume control  |
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Jan 25, 2007 18:25:15 GMT
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I just have 1 question to anyone that has actually got round to it - how do you deal with the pre-amp thingy <apologies for lack of technical knowledge> - the blue wire that also connects to the back of the head unit normally? the remote wire... it runs from the back of the HU to each amp (split it if need be). on the amp there are 3 connections in a row, the +, the - and in between, the remote. its a very low feed running from the earth of the HU just to say 'we're on now chaps' plus if you put a switch along it, you can choose which speakers to put on. which means you can run multiple systems in one car  Thanks for the almost helpful reply <smiles sweetly>  If I'm doing away with the head unit, and just plugging in some sort of personal audio device into the amp (headphone socket -> amp input), I need a very low feed from *something*for the remote wire - my mp3cd player doesn't have one of these - thats what I was asking about, and apologies for not making myself clear |
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Jan 25, 2007 18:59:32 GMT
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Bargain radio ratdat all the features you need at a price you can nearly afford to have nicked, and nice suggestion MWF, however if i'm doing that i'll get some really old curse word ford radio. Thanks again for peoples help and making me realise how rusty i am with building audio systems and basic electronics!  mean time i will chase one of those FM stransmitters. |
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Jan 25, 2007 19:42:39 GMT
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small amp - ipod wired directly to it, £10 for the amp, a few quid for cables and a few hours fitting. out of sight, as many tunes as your ipod can carry, nothing to steal This was my plan as well, so that I could have whatever mp3 player, and also (important to me) DAB radio. I just have 1 question to anyone that has actually got round to it - how do you deal with the pre-amp thingy <apologies for lack of technical knowledge> - the blue wire that also connects to the back of the head unit normally? If you are avoiding a headunit, then run the remote line from either a permanent live feed with a manual switch in, or, fit it to an ignition live feed like the ignition acc setting, or the ciggu lighter. Or maybe fit a reed switch to the Ipod dock you are going to use to connect the pod to the amp. |
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Jan 25, 2007 21:49:48 GMT
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This was my plan as well, so that I could have whatever mp3 player, and also (important to me) DAB radio. I just have 1 question to anyone that has actually got round to it - how do you deal with the pre-amp thingy <apologies for lack of technical knowledge> - the blue wire that also connects to the back of the head unit normally? If you are avoiding a headunit, then run the remote line from either a permanent live feed with a manual switch in, or, fit it to an ignition live feed like the ignition acc setting, or the ciggu lighter. Or maybe fit a reed switch to the Ipod dock you are going to use to connect the pod to the amp. what he said! i had the same bother on one HU, took a wire from the cig lighter socket power and put a toggle switch in line, otherwise you cant switch them off obv... |
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Jan 25, 2007 22:42:14 GMT
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Blatant magazine pimping but Practical Classics has a feature in the April issue (out Feb 14) which tells you how to fit a subtle stereo to your mowtah. It's a good-un actually. Plug over... Looking forward to that already, as I really want a stereo in the tank, but haven't got enough leccy knowledge to know where to start..... |
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Jan 25, 2007 22:56:25 GMT
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about 10-15 years ago in a custom mag or Max Power or something, I saw this wierd sub-bass unit, wondered if anyone remembers it? It was a long clear cylinder about the size of a small bucket, with a paddle thingy in it that fitted close to the sides. It was waggled around by a motor, and generated serious sub bass  Anyone got any idea what is was and who made it? |
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Phoenix Gold Cyclone? That was a weird sub. "totally redefines the way bass is reproduced". Total collectors item now. Could also have been one of Velodynes weird subs. Ditto for them really. Both of these were crazy money when new (possibly four figure price tags)
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good question - what about retro audio? Phoenix Gold M series amps, Rockford "Shell" series, Precision Power "Art Series". yeah!
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I'd also be dubious of Lidl head uynits and the like. I know plenty of people who've gone for cheapo stuff like Goodmanns or Ministry of SOund stuff and complain that the CDs skip badly, it won;t read MP3 tags, won;t work at all when it gets hot, that kind of crepe. Far better to get a decent quality 2nd hand Cassette HU (you can get old Alpines for like £10 nobody wants tape now!) and a personal player to casette adaptor...
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Jan 26, 2007 10:23:13 GMT
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Phoenix Gold Cyclone? That was a weird sub. "totally redefines the way bass is reproduced". Total collectors item now. Could also have been one of Velodynes weird subs. Ditto for them really. Both of these were crazy money when new (possibly four figure price tags) old chap! ;D I've been trying to find this for ages... thanks It does look rather dead from the website though, last updated 1999/2000  |
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I'd also be dubious of Lidl head uynits and the like. I know plenty of people who've gone for cheapo stuff like Goodmanns or Ministry of SOund stuff and complain that the CDs skip badly, it won;t read MP3 tags, won;t work at all when it gets hot, that kind of crepe. Far better to get a decent quality 2nd hand Cassette HU (you can get old Alpines for like £10 nobody wants tape now!) and a personal player to casette adaptor... Ive had a £49.99 argos special goodmans unit for well over a year, swapped it from car to car (3 or 4 now) and it was bought as a cd player and no more, well, it plays mp3 cds, has a preout and is 45x4, and nicely loud. only fault is buttons for volume but for that money... |
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all i need is a poop head unit and some decent components
then i just stick the itrip on my ipod and roberts your fathers brother
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cummins, odd departure from their range of diesel engines.... What you need is a wiring kit. Something like this: cgi.ebay.co.uk/1000-wat-car-amp-wiring-kit-w-fuses-for-sub-amp-speaker_W0QQitemZ180098705988QQcategoryZ14932QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemThe main power runs direct from the battery to the amp main in. Put the inline fuse holder at the battery end of the cable, before the first place the cable goes through metal/bulkhead. The earth just goes to earth. The remote cable goes from either a 12V live source to a switch to the amp - or - find an ignition-switched live and wire direct to the amp so ithe amp comes on when the car is started. In either case I would put a small (3A or so) inline fuse in the remote cable as I don't like unfused lives running in my car. On a converntional setup the headunit is connected to the remote wire and is internally fused. |
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