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Oct 20, 2006 11:20:09 GMT
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I tend to not post rather than be negative if I can, some of what gets posted doesnt interest me at all so I don't post on it The only negative comments I have made recently were on the TVR Golf thread, which I felt were constructive rather than derogatory and I explained my thinking behind them at the time  I think we have a reasonable balance although its getting slowly watered down with Non Retro stuff, which is a bigger danger I think. As long as we can self moderate the non Car stuff then It should be kept under control, but I notice it is creeping back in and then someone posts a car pic to "Keep it on topic" which isn`t really playing by the rules Better IMO to start up a new one with the Car pic, then the OT stuff will die and the car thread will pick up ;D On the whole I think this is a very positive place and long may it continue Cheers Dom |
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Oct 20, 2006 11:31:04 GMT
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As has been noted, the only recent thread I can think of was the TVR Golf one and I gave a reasoned explanation of why it found no favour with me.
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Top grammar tips!
Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated
Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Oct 20, 2006 11:33:06 GMT
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As has been noted, the only recent thread I can think of was the TVR Golf one and I gave a reasoned explanation of why it found no favour with me. *n There are more than that..  A couple in readers rides and a couple on general, some guys have even not come back, not always a bad thing depending who it is though. |
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richy
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Flatheads forever....
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Oct 20, 2006 11:44:51 GMT
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I gave the site a wide berth after the criticism I received over the decal posting - hence my disappearance for some time....
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bstardchild
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All the Negativity...bstardchild
@bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member 71
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Oct 20, 2006 12:02:06 GMT
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This Forum has broadened my mind and gave me appreciation of styles and manufacturers I would have never had before I joined.
I was a blinkered Opel Fruit and happy to remain that way and I've never owned a Japanesse car but from Sat I do (not partic retro yet) I blame this forum for that ;D
I always subscribed to the if can't say anything nice don't say anything at all but on here I believe there is a good balance and also if you do "say what you think" you won't be shouted down
I agree if you don't like something and you feel you have to post at least you should be constructive about what you say.
There must be "balance" in threads or it's all a bit sick-o-fantic (sp - I know I didn't even try to spell it right cos I knew I couldn't)
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slater
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All the Negativity...slater
@slater
Club Retro Rides Member 78
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Oct 20, 2006 12:03:59 GMT
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Ive been enjoying the negitivity ive been reciving. Lots to discuss ;D
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Nick
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Oct 20, 2006 12:11:20 GMT
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seasonal depressional order is a cruel mistress.
i don't see anything wrong with the negativity.some people are just negative. i don't see a problem with somebody thinking the "coolest capri" must be built by a mentally deranged pig monkey. different things provoke reactions. id much rather see people say its curse word than feel that they have to say "oh i like it its cooooool" as i sometimes feel has been the way on this forum.
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idea stolen from rattely eddie.
this weeks car count "5"
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Oct 20, 2006 12:56:04 GMT
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Honesty with cause or reason is good i agree. as I have said recently, I'm glad were not all the same or aiming to do and say the same things. that would be v sad. So long as we all know where we are coming from, its useful to discuss why something is curse word or doesnt work, and go easy on newcomers.  |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Oct 20, 2006 13:03:43 GMT
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Surely every car is gonna have at least one hater? I don't mind negativity, because, it tends to be balanced out by positivity. Also, its never personal (I'm only really thinking of the general board). there have been some cars in readers rides, that I've not liked, but i haven't said that. Insulting someone's ride to their face is a bit ott, offering your opinions of what you'd do to the car is not however. it is a discussion board tbf  I don't mind slightly off topic threads either. the most recent ones i can think of, is the one about the GT4 compatible steering wheel and the pic of my Morgan model. neither strictly about retro cars, however, both threads are of a genre that several members have an interest in. if you don't have an interest in that genre, then don't post - it is fair play is it not? also, on a modeling forum i go on, they put on this thing called, 'spelling cow' or something, and basically, when your submit your post, you get a little spell checker appear to correct your mistakes. it only takes a few seconds and makes your post a whole lot more readable. to conclude, I like retro-rides because of the variety and freedom to discuss. Discussing will IMO create some negative feelings. I'm not sure they can be completely eliminated, but they can be shared if it is done in the correct and proper way. |
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Oct 20, 2006 13:33:06 GMT
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I'm no angel as some will know, so try to forgive the following hypocritical elements of this post.
I feel there's saying you don't like something, being arrogant and being just plain nasty.
I think it's important people say when they don't like something, if gives us a sense of community and direction. I know I've been overly arrogant about things in the past, said stuff is Barry or said it is rubbish. Lately it's seemed as if cars are being posted up for approval rather than appreciation. I've seen some people rattling on like they are Chip Foose about how it's all done wrong and the wheels should be different and the paint is the wrong shade. As for being nasty, well there's just no need for that ever really.
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Oct 20, 2006 13:54:01 GMT
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Lately it's seemed as if cars are being posted up for approval rather than appreciation. Good observation, maybe that's the real issue here? |
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All the Negativity...BenzBoy
@benzboy
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Oct 20, 2006 13:57:07 GMT
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I think threads where people put up cars just to take the p*ss don't have a place on RR - that's best left to Barry Boys et al. There have been thankfully few of late, but I suppose threads like the Mk2 Granny for £6.5k and Mansell's Tipo could be construed as being a "look at this overpriced piece of tat" type thread. However I think it's a credit to the members on here that both threads were, by-and-large, discussed in a grown-up manner and turned into positive threads about modifying said cars. (I do think they were both overpriced though! ;D) I missed the thread richy was talking about, and (for my sins) I don't venture outside the General Board as much as I should do of late, so I can't really comment on those. |
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Just to lighten things up...... ;D ;D ;D  "Always with the negative waves, Moriaritty! Always with the negative waves!" |
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qwerty
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All the Negativity...qwerty
@qwerty
Club Retro Rides Member 52
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Oct 21, 2006 10:17:38 GMT
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I feel as if I may have been slightly negative about the Capri in readers rides. Which I apologise for.
What I can say though, is That R-R is an absolutely brilliant foum for a diverse range of cars, attitudes towards modifing and people. We have all age groups all types of cars and all levels of modified motors. Not many forums can boast of that especially with the harmony we have.
Suppose its just an example of people sharing a common passion, and long may it live.
I have noticed that there's a few modern threads popping up but I think most of the time its generally unaccepted modern cars. Such as the Hyundai Accent thread and my Perodua thread from a few weeks back.
Lets keep up the good work!
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Oct 21, 2006 11:20:41 GMT
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I wouldnt feel the need to apologise for expressing your opinion qwerty, you didnt say anything daft or inflammatory, if I remember right it was perfectly constructive and a good balance of positive and negative.
I like it when someone points out a bit they don't like, if it happened to one of my cars I wouldnt be upset I`d either think "yeah that does want changing" or "can`t change that its my favourite bit".
I`ve not really seen anyone say anything blantantly stupid like "your car wants weighing in" which is the only time I`d think they`d have been better off not posting. Its always better to say someones car is perfect but if theres the odd bit that you think spoils it then say so, the owner might have been thinking it all along and it might be just the motivation they need.
Modern car threads are only pointless if its some tedious person comparing bootspace of the Renault Modus and yaris Verso but I can`t imagine that happening on here. Threads on the Angry Accent or perodua are always enjoyable for me at least.
Theres always got be bit of negativity just for the sake of balancing the job up a bit the only problem is when it turns into a txtspk slanging match, which again I couldnt ever imagine happening on here, you`ve got to have half a brain at least to be able to remember Mazda Montroses and Renaults 12s let alone buy and maintain one!
Put it this way, I`m not really a forum guy but I`ve stayed on this one.
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Oct 21, 2006 16:23:41 GMT
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meet him in the flesh and he's not at all like that
i think if something not just cars, if put up in public are there for comment but there is a line but every now and again its crossed but critisism is good no? it's all about the cars - shouldnt get personal tho
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Bioshock
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It aint hip to be square.
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Oct 21, 2006 17:42:03 GMT
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I think threads where people put up cars just to take the p*ss don't have a place on RR - that's best left to Barry Boys et al. There have been thankfully few of late, but I suppose threads like the Mk2 Granny for £6.5k and Mansell's Tipo could be construed as being a "look at this overpriced piece of tat" type thread. However I think it's a credit to the members on here that both threads were, by-and-large, discussed in a grown-up manner and turned into positive threads about modifying said cars. (I do think they were both overpriced though! ;D) I posted both those threads,one definately was aimed at "do you think this Granada is worth 6.5K" without saying, look at this tw*t. If you remember,some bloke posted up a V-dub in the for sale section,and got pilloried by all and sundry on the price of it. The second was me marvelling at the fact the Tipo was so cheap,for a piece of F1 memorobilia.Ying and Yang. A forum is just that,If you don't like a particular car,you are totally in your right to say so.I didn't come here to fawn over every car thats posted. As has been said,my idea of a retro ride,isn't a Mondeo,Vitara etc although it seems just cos someones posted it up,many seem to feel obliged to say,"sweet ride" or "wicked"  I understand the need for moderation,but I don't think anyone should be chastised for their view on a particular car,whether someones spent £1000 and 10 hours doing it,or £1,000.000 and half their life. If its a car I like I'll say so,if I don't ,Likewise. Sorry if this offends anyone,but I'd rather be honest. |
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bstardchild
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All the Negativity...bstardchild
@bstardchild
Club Retro Rides Member 71
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Oct 21, 2006 19:08:08 GMT
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meet him in the flesh and he's not at all like that Me too at Cars and again at the Le Mans Classic - reet funny chap - dry as fook - even when drinking beer!!!! |
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Oct 21, 2006 19:14:21 GMT
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Yeah, I'd noticed quite a bit of this recently - creeping in like. I suppose its inevitable when a forum starts to grow and attracts more users - I'm all for spreading the word, not into eliteism etc but I enjoy coming on this forum to chill out and have a laugh - a release if you like from all the none believers. Lets try and keep it that way. My advice - if anyone is feeling negative, don't take it out in a new post. Have a 10 minute click through the OOF thread and all your troubles will be forgotton. Here's the only kind of negativity we'll allow...  If you don't post more pics of that volvo, it will be negative too ;D |
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Oct 21, 2006 19:48:24 GMT
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I think the problem here is that it's very hard to get across any sort of context / emotion in what is posted. I've probably been guilty of it once or twice - 'chavved heap of wibblepoo' is a comment I seem to recall posting at some point. Thing is, I'd say that in real life, too - but not in an agressive way. It's just the way I am - 'I say what I like and I like what I bloody well say' ;D
Anyway....
If you think there's some slightly out of place comments on here, you need to pay a visit to Usenet. There's one or two quite, erm, 'robust' groups out there!
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