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1994 Rover 820

metromartin Part of things Posts: 297	1994 Rover 820 metromartin @metromartin
	Jan 5, 2014 17:32:13 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	fantastic build!! the car and engine is a credit to you!! Love the cam covers! looks like a totally different engine! I've got a 620ti as a daily, but its standard and on 201k miles now.


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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 6, 2014 21:50:27 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thanks Metromartin, 620ti is a great sleeper. A bit more, there is also an unused full race T16 head that came from Cosworth with the same size valves as the damaged M16 head, fortunately the valves are ok so they will be fitted to this head, this is only suitable for normally aspirated. I would love to build this up for a Marina TC Coupe as the M and T16 Rover engines owe there block design to the old B series. Huge valves and ports. Valves from the damaged head cleaned up and test fitted.
	Last Edit: Jun 3, 2022 10:18:38 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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adam73bgt Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 4,998 Club RR Member Number: 58	1994 Rover 820 adam73bgt @adam73bgt Club Retro Rides Member 58
	Jan 6, 2014 22:15:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thats a nice looking head, I think I would still like to see a naturally aspirated M or T in my MGB at some point in the future... who knows, I get a new idea for an engine swap every couple of days haha I do like the look of your 820 also
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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 7, 2014 19:52:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thanks, engine should bolt straight to your gearbox/backplate, use a land Rover inlet, M16 ancillaries, probably a fairly simple swap, or even the turbo version might go in there. There must be a few already done. Around the same time Rover were looking at entering the BTCC the factory Roversport dept built some tuned normally aspirated 200's, these were standard looking road cars used to test the engines durability, making almost 200hp. I think 160 - 170 hp would be quite easy to get from a well built T series.
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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 7, 2014 20:37:34 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	On stripping the damaged engine found that the pistons were made by Cosworth. The block had to have a new liner installed and all the bores machined. Just an excuse for some engine porn showing the lovely machine work carried out, the unusual cross bracing holes through the side of the block into the mains caps can be seen and the steel thread inserts fitted for the mains studs. A new steel short stroke race crank The BTCC rules at that time meant all parts or dimensions had to be from one of your own production models, so the mains and big end bearings come from the Rover V8/Metro 6R4, these are modified with extra oil feed holes round the bearing shell and an oil channel machined into the block, seen above. A new set of forged lightweight rods. Checked with the cosworth pistons and old bearings. A test build to check it all still fits, excuse the white grease on everything, seen to many parts ruined by corrosion while not in use. Block refaced and old piston deck clearance checked.
	Last Edit: Jun 3, 2022 10:20:25 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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stevecrx Part of things Posts: 370	1994 Rover 820 stevecrx @stevecrx
	Jan 7, 2014 21:08:22 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Nice write up. The car and engine build is a credit to you.
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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 10, 2014 21:17:07 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Cheers SteveCRX Nearly there with the wooden caliper carriers, had to fit metal inserts for accurate position of the carrier mounting bolt holes and a bit of filler to tidy up the edges to be rubbed down.
	Last Edit: Jun 3, 2022 10:20:52 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 10, 2014 21:29:43 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Bit more on the spare engine. The challenge now is to convert it from normally aspirated to turbo, biggest difference is the piston design. Piston on the left is the Cosworth 13.5 to 1 compression normally aspirated, on the right is the standard Rover turbo 8.5 to 1 comp piston, it needs an 8 to 1 piston for the new set up. Also got a dry sump for it but probably wont need to use this.
	Last Edit: Jun 3, 2022 10:21:49 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 18, 2014 11:28:34 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Wooden mock up brackets finished, with some silver paint to see how they might look. Just got to hope they scan ok and if they can be reproduced in ally.
	Last Edit: Jun 3, 2022 10:22:15 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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forde Part of things Posts: 377	1994 Rover 820 forde @forde
	Jan 18, 2014 21:07:56 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Love the attention to detail here
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sierra1off Part of things Posts: 603	1994 Rover 820 sierra1off @sierra1off
	Jan 18, 2014 22:13:05 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Someone else thinking outside the box Hope the new radial calipers are worth all the trouble. What size discs are you using now?


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155ringman Part of things Posts: 52	1994 Rover 820 155ringman @155ringman
	Jan 18, 2014 23:56:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Jan 6, 2014 21:50:27 GMT 820 said: Thanks Metromartin, 620ti is a great sleeper. A bit more, there is also an unused full race T16 head that came from Cosworth with the same size valves as the damaged M16 head, fortunately the valves are ok so they will be fitted to this head, this is only suitable for normally aspirated. I would love to build this up for a Marina TC Coupe as the M and T16 Rover engines owe there block design to the old B series. There's a bloke building up an M16 for installation in his Marina Coupe at the moment. Would love to see something like this engine in a coupe but for the sake of the suspension, I think a K series would be a better bet. Think your car is great, you've gathered some fantastic parts together for it.
	Lots of Alfas and, errrr, a Marina Coupe...

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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 19, 2014 13:58:06 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	sierra1off The new discs are 323mm, about 40mm over standard diameter but much thicker, if I had known how close the caliper would sit to the hub I could have gone to 350mm but it would be a thinner disc and different bells and calipers, I didnt know this till the bells were machined and test fitted by which time I was committed to this set up, I hope they are worth it to. cheers Forde 155ringman is there a link to the Marina or any more info? he might be able to use Sherpa running gear. cheers Jim
	Last Edit: Jan 19, 2014 13:59:01 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Jan 22, 2014 23:03:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Got the drawings back from the scan of the wooden model, I thought I had trimmed it down quite a lot from the prototype but there was still plenty of unnecessary metal to be trimmed. There are a couple more tweaks here and there still to be done then they can be made in metal and anodized in champagne colour
	Last Edit: Mar 9, 2014 11:51:23 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Feb 23, 2014 14:51:12 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Caliper brackets are finished and ready to test fit.
	Last Edit: Jun 3, 2022 10:25:57 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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metroman Part of things Posts: 817	1994 Rover 820 metroman @metroman
	Feb 23, 2014 16:45:56 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Those mounts look fantastic. Are the rods one off? James
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Robinxr4i Posted hell of a lot I crash Sierra Posts: 7,775 Club RR Member Number: 143	1994 Rover 820 Robinxr4i @robinxr4i Club Retro Rides Member 143
	Feb 23, 2014 22:44:08 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Great car with a proper history, awesome to see it being used on the track and strip. Never thought I'd see an 800 with a cage good to see it's evolving!
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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Mar 6, 2014 21:49:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Feb 23, 2014 16:45:56 GMT metroman said: Those mounts look fantastic. Are the rods one off? James Cheers, the rods I believe are the same dimensions as Rover V8 and Metro 6R4, fortunately there are some spares. Cheers Robinxr4i. I should have the brake pipes next week, so fitting new ball joints and coat of paint for the hubs just now, but you know how it is, while it is apart I,m looking at making spacers for the top arms so it can be lowered a bit more and keep the geometry near to standard.
	Last Edit: Mar 6, 2014 21:50:21 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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820 South East Posts: 793	1994 Rover 820 820 @820
	Mar 8, 2014 20:21:32 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Its slowly coming together so time for more pics. New ball joints and a tin of paint Caliper bracket fitted Close but good enough clearance with bracket bolts and disc bolts Caliper fitted, much to my relief everything aligns nicely, spotted the cracked driveshaft gaiter so thats another job. Pads aligned on disc Thats the nearside pretty much how it will be, just waiting for the pipes. So time to clean the garage floor.
	Last Edit: Jun 3, 2022 10:28:12 GMT by 820 www.rovervitesse.com

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qwerty Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 2,420 Club RR Member Number: 52	1994 Rover 820 qwerty @qwerty Club Retro Rides Member 52
	Mar 9, 2014 12:00:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Fantastic build, I do love seeing an unusual choice being built.
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