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Jun 27, 2006 11:53:09 GMT
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The same people complaining wouldn't give a toss if it was a big HEMI 6, but since it's Japanese then it's just not on! A Chrysler motor in a Ford? C'mon thats a waste of Mopar iron! If they'd got a Hemi 6 I'd want to know why it wasn't in a Valiant Charger.
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Jun 27, 2006 11:55:38 GMT
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At least they didn't chav up the 'stangs like they did that "Eleanor" in the Gone in 60 Seconds remake. I'm glad I'm not the only person who has that opinion. There's three of us!
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K5
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Jun 27, 2006 12:08:21 GMT
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Thats a fab 'stang, its gorgeous (in a little britain styleee) shame someone had the bright idea to spoil it by putting a rice burning six in it since there's now a drifting challange in the uk has anyone came up with idea of entering a retro car in it? I recon a 340 volvo with a mopar big block shoehorned into it should be able to get V sideways ;D (apologise for rice burner comment but , i cant stand the max power way of thinking ,"look mustang Wif SKYLINE lump in it " ) I think it look awesome. It's far easier and cheaper these days to get big power out of a Blown Skyline motor than it is a V8. As for Retro drifting, well i seem to have a slipper and loads of power to the rear. Would be a laugh to see an SD1 going around! If only they did a thing with enough run off space so you could try it first.
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Jun 27, 2006 12:14:41 GMT
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depends which V8 you're running and how hard you want to tune the Skyline motor. I hear some crazy numbers for money people spent on tuning Skylines. I looked at buying one a couple of times and each time the money put me off. I could build a screaming V8 for that kind of money, in fact I could get someone to build one for me, and have a ton more torque to boot. A mate of mine is into Skylines, he'd had a few moddified ones now and a couple of stockers. Lovely cars, I still think they are mean as hell, but I upset him when I said I'd just get a base model R32 rip out the motor and shove a stroker small block Ford V8 in it. None of the above would actually happen of course, I'd buy it, spend a mint on it and flog it as an unfinished project in a mardy fit one day.
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Jun 27, 2006 12:22:00 GMT
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Would have made sense would have been if they had gotten a nice big beefy 4 litre twin turbo lexus/toyota V8, with silly big turbos, and spanky electronic brain, mapped by buttdyno. And if they had been seen "building" the turbo build on the engine from say a scrap century and turbos from a TT supra, that would have been cool. Remember the geek guy (who panic'd) in the first film and legged it. What they wanted really was someone like him. a real "Well, What if we" type guy surrounded by a rolled supra, a rear ended century, and an engineless 'stang. Wait, i'm giving them the plot for the next one
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Jun 27, 2006 12:42:39 GMT
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Couple of problems.
1. The DOHC V8s are usually quite wide, not sure about that particular one, but the cams/carriers/pulleys add some width which may conflict with the Mustang's strut towers.
2. The movie is made by and aimed at people who go "uh yeah, wow Skyline, yeah" and no nothing more about tuning than that.
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Jun 27, 2006 12:52:25 GMT
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It really SUCKS...only the Americans would use a 30 year old actor to play the part of a 18 year old....DUH!!!!!and the engine in the stang??? iits a 2.5 liter DUH!!!! ,it's only a movie prop but it's worse than that GTO that Vin Diesel posed in the other movie....VIN DIESEL...is that supposed to sound Butch??? The fart can muffler and the mustang body are mixed metaphors discovered as "hit points" by marketing people,throw in a turbo J six and you connect with a bigger crowd of potential Movie goers...known as suckers. This is the sort of marketing that sells big macs and wars in the middle east.Sad part of it all. ..some one buys it.
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Many years ago I changed my driving style to cope with rising fuel prices; I have now reached the stage where I am contemplating keeping my eyes shut in order to lower wind resistance.
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Jun 27, 2006 12:56:16 GMT
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The thing I like about Vin Diesel is that he always comes up at least once if you do an Ebay search for ‘Diesel Van’.
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mercmad
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Jun 27, 2006 12:57:46 GMT
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Many years ago I changed my driving style to cope with rising fuel prices; I have now reached the stage where I am contemplating keeping my eyes shut in order to lower wind resistance.
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Jun 27, 2006 13:09:31 GMT
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film aside..meatballturbo..tell me more about mods for lexus v8s.... the only stuff i've found is a guy building a twin turbo LS in the states and a company in NZ who can sell you throttle bodies and other little bits. I would very much like to know more...
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Jun 27, 2006 13:18:45 GMT
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That seems like a lot of work and expense for "hopefully" 200 BHP from 250 cubic inches.
I like whacky six pot tuning (Rambler's alloy six, the "leaning Tower of Power" mopars, the Hemi 6, etc. even the old stovebolt) but you spend lots of money compared to building a more conventional power plant.
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K5
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Jun 27, 2006 15:39:02 GMT
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I think you'll find that it's an RB26 lump with a big Turbo on it instead of the normal 2.
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Jun 27, 2006 16:09:48 GMT
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id be embarassed to drive it...........put your foot down and it will go whoooooooo pssssssssssssht.....alright alright a blown 6 sounds like a spitfire gone wrong and is quite a sound on the open road but thats crying out for a big block
oh and ive not seen the film nore plan on doing so
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once again rocking with 1117cc and 4 gears!
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K5
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Jun 27, 2006 16:34:02 GMT
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id be embarassed to drive it...........put your foot down and it will go whoooooooo pssssssssssssht.....alright alright a blown 6 sounds like a spitfire gone wrong and is quite a sound on the open Would you really? Well thats upto you, myself personally i believe it would be a truly awesome combo, having owned a Skyline myself . They are very quick cars with bomb proof engines. Why do we always need to look to the past for Retro/classics. If there is something modern that does a far better job than the old item it replaces, i'll use it without a though to purity in most cases. isn't this what Retro cars are about? You are right about the noise though only i wouldn't describe it as a Spitfire gone wrong. Now who's for a Skyline powered SD1?
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Jun 27, 2006 16:43:16 GMT
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I have major lust for a late Skyline motor in an early to mid 70s Laurel. I also want a RX4 with a later RX7 rotary in it. I have a slight twitch about mixing brands. Chevy engines in Fords, Nissan engines in Opels, whatever. I like to think we can recognise the herritage of the various makes when we f**k about with them To me thats what the retro thing is about. But then I was very impressed by the Nissan powered Mk1 Cortina and MGB that have been on this site recently, and to an extent you build what you have handy or what works for the job in hand. I wouldn't put a 426 Hemi into a track day car for example.... I think the problem is that although it looks pretty that 'stang is a cynical marketting tool and it makes me uncomfortable. Reports from the articles I've read about it saying it drives like a dog compound that feeling. Now if an enthusiast had come up with the idea and built one then I'd say hats off to the guy for doing his own thing, but when its a movie studio spending the $$$$$$$ then I feel different. One other thing I have to say is one reason I like old cars is that they are simple. Conceptually and mechanically. If you start shoving multi valve multi cam EFI motors into them they become as complex as the modern cars I find scary. This is one reason I have always stepped back from the "modern engine old car" thing. Zetecs in Mk1 Escorts and all that. I'd rather have a Pinto, I know where I am with one of those and the engine bay is tidyer! Each to thier own though
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Jun 27, 2006 16:45:14 GMT
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could be interesting but hows about this 8000 hp hmmmm ;D
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Jun 27, 2006 18:09:08 GMT
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id be embarassed to drive it........... Man, you got that 'Mk1 Fiesta Lurve' thang real baaaaad......!
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Jun 27, 2006 18:15:26 GMT
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I'm glad I'm not the only person who has that opinion. There's three of us! Four.
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Muppet
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Jun 27, 2006 18:40:41 GMT
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I have a slight twitch about mixing brands. Chevy engines in Fords, Nissan engines in Opels, whatever. I think the problem is that although it looks pretty that 'stang is a cynical marketting tool and it makes me uncomfortable. Reports from the articles I've read about it saying it drives like a dog compound that feeling. Now if an enthusiast had come up with the idea and built one then I'd say hats off to the guy for doing his own thing, but when its a movie studio spending the $$$$$$$ then I feel different. i think i may have stured up a few people up a little , i totally agree wyth the quote above ,and although i may seem like i'm bashing J motors , i didn't intend to, gotta be honest . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .wouldn't mind 240z , early rx7 . . 71 510 B , 1st gen celica ,mid 70's cedric or CROWN errrrrr just muscle cars should have muscle car motors 'sall
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Jun 27, 2006 19:38:18 GMT
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...If you start shoving multi valve multi cam EFI motors into them they become as complex as the modern cars I find scary. This is one reason I have always stepped back from the "modern engine old car" thing. Zetecs in Mk1 Escorts and all that. I'd rather have a Pinto, I know where I am with one of those and the engine bay is tidyer! Each to thier own though Actually I don't feel that's the case really. I'd much rather have a modern EFI engine in an old car for a couple of reasons. First, the extra complexity of a multivalve engine is usually not an issue in that they don't require the maintanance of older engines so their mechanical aspect is not usually a cause for concern. And secondly I find modern engine management/EFI systems far easier to diagnose and repair than old carbs/points setups. I always shied away from EFI because I thought it's be complex but the truth is it's actually simpler than a carb to diagnose running faults because it's made up of so many seperate components, all of which can be tested individually. Given the choice, I would only have EFI now. The one and only reservation I have with modern engines is they way they look. A modern turbo/EFI engine just doesn't look as pretty as an old school motor with sidedraughts. There are some exceptions to that but generally they look complex and cluttered. Still ...I'd rather have the go than the show ;D
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