luckyseven
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Now someone buys a car like a Hyundai because it has a five-year warranty, never caring or thinking about the fact that it'll be worth 50p if by some miracle it lasts past the end of that warranty....and certainly not because they actually want a Hyundai for its own sake. Or even know anything about it, let alone what engine it has. So like anyone buying a Datsun or Toyta in the 70's (outside of their sports car ranges) Or they buy a hundred-grand Audi or Merc because there are corporate incentives attached and they can brag about it in the bankers club after hours. So like anyone buying a Mercedes in the 70's and 80's then ... Plus ça change. Kinda. Only more ubiquitous.
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MiataMark
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Brera. Though my knowledge in those is as limited as a diff. That was my suggestion, 3 doors, range of engines 1.75, 2.2, 3.2 (V6) petrol and 2.0, 2.4 diesel.
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artstu
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Sorry, as no one else has. A new Capri, not in the spirit of what was asked, but hey ho.
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Probe and cougar are better cars than some believe and as near to a Capri I think... Prices of these will rocket in the next few years
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bobman
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I'm sure there are modern cars that have similarity's as in being a coupe and having a range of engines but I don't think anything really compares, for example a DC2 Integra is a lift back-coupe, long bonnet but its a Honda not a Found On Roadside Dead underdog, then say R33 skyline or modern 370z big coupe RWD even 6cyl but its nothing like a Capri, I think a modern equivalent would be anything that looks nice an is cheapish to run
Their an odd-ball I think the main reason they sold well was image and lack of similar cars from other manufacturers as cheap and easy to access(main dealers everywhere), there were other stylish/semi-reliable cars but not as cheap IMO back in the day most people had Capris because they where cheap and looked nice/sporty, The fact that most Capri's are 4cyl kind of backs that up,
In reality they didn't have much to offer the mk3 still shared the floor pan from a mk1, granted a different boot floor and rear shelf arrangement but the same suspension and mechanicals and engines, the interior - what interior the dash and seats is 90% of it, never known to handle well or stop well, had rust and many other issues even when new and are tail happy, but the proportions are perfect and the 1/4 window curve is unmistakable as I said I think there and odd ball
The modern man round here usually drives a VAG tdi, and on top of that the Capri's from a different era when BL/MG went true all its problems, the germens were expensive and imports were only starting or non existent and from before NCAP,OBD, and all the others rules and regs and PC brigades, therefor I put it to you that there is no modern equivalent to a Capri
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Would the Rover 800 Coupe count or was that not 'coupe-y' enough...!!! Maybe it was just a bit too big to fill that gap... Perhaps it was more of a modern day Ford Granada Coupe/Vauxhall Royale...?!
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I came here to say Toyota/Subaru GT86/BRZ - seems everyone else beat me to it.
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bazzateer
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Subaru BRZ/Toyota GT86 or whatever it's called would be my suggestion. Definitely this. At just £25k brand new they should be pretty affordable in a few years.
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Sorry to say, no, there has been no "spiritual successor to the Ford Capri." [(c) motoring journalists of the 1990's ], and that's a shame. For me it's appeal was 1. RWD wide-boy street-cred 2. Honest, humble underpinnings which magically made it more than the sum-of-the-parts. So no FWD is even worth considering IMO. I see the GT86/BRZ making a very good claim. I salute Toyota and Subara for such a clever niche-model. Another debatable choice : Chrysler Crossfire. RWD, V6, and 'parts-bin' in as much as the platform is Mercedes-Benz hand-me-down. Not quite a car of the people, though. The only vehicle which fully shares the Capri's character is.......a motorcycle. Suzuki Bandit 1200 = Ford Capri V6. [edit] my bad. lots of words needs pic
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luckyseven
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Surely the greatest strength of ranges like the Capri was the fact there was a trim and an engine level to suit everyone? From feeble low-displacement four bangers to the top line V6s and even fuel injection later on (wo0t, modern)! The idea was to suck you in with the entry-level model and give you something to aim at, to trade up to. That's why cars like the GT86 are in no way a successor... it's spread across two manufacturers and the only difference is the badge on the boot. Even the wing badges are the same. Maybe if Subaru dusted off the six-cylinder boxer from like the SVX and Toyota threw in some funky stuff like their two-litre turbos of old, but how is there any motivation there to stick with the "marque" when you buy into everything it has to offer with the entry model? Also too many words, have an SvX. Weird is always better ...oh, did anyone mention Probes? Oh yeah, so I did *cough* I was younger then
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I suppose you could say the 1 series coupe offers a broad spec choice from the base spec 120i ES all the way to 1M with wide arches & 335bhp 3.0 Twin Turbo
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Last Edit: Dec 2, 2014 20:43:33 GMT by joem83
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adam73bgt
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Yeah thinking about it, the E46 (or E36 or E30 for that matter) BMW 3 series coupe is probably the closest thing really, (or the 1 series as above) range of engines to suit different needs, coupe styling, goof 4 driftz and probably a similar driver demographic to Capris particularly in something like the 330Ci
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Another curveball would be the new Hyundai Genesis coupe, though you'd have to import it as they aren't in this country. They have a decent 348bhp v6 and are RWD. Not so bad to look at either.
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Another curveball would be the new Hyundai Genesis coupe, though you'd have to import it as they aren't in this country. They have a decent 348bhp v6 and are RWD. Not so bad to look at either. Just googled that, nice (jaguar style?!) looks and impressive figures.
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qwerty
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Yeah thinking about it, the E46 (or E36 or E30 for that matter) BMW 3 series coupe is probably the closest thing really, (or the 1 series as above) range of engines to suit different needs, coupe styling, goof 4 driftz and probably a similar driver demographic to Capris particularly in something like the 330Ci As I was reading through this thread that was what I was thinking. Based on a Saloon, rwd and a large range of engines from little 4 pots to big six cylinders. Also easy to pick up a good one for cheap, much like the capri when it was the same age.
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Whilst the Capri used the mechanicals of an ordinary Cortina saloon the actual bodyshell was a purpose designed as a sports coupe from the start. Things like BMW, although almost "there", are actually saloons with a coupe roof so aren't really a proper comparison to the Capri. If we start to include saloons in the debate then the Sierra should be included as it came with a basic 1300 Kent right up to a 2.8 V6 and 2/4 door hatch, 2 door XR4! and saloon as well as estate & pick-up ! Then what about the German Ford Taurus coupe -
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bazzateer
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Then what about the German Ford Taurus coupe - Nice car but hardly a successor to the Capri, surely more of a contemporary? (Above comment based purely on styling and not any knowledge!)
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adam73bgt
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Whilst the Capri used the mechanicals of an ordinary Cortina saloon the actual bodyshell was a purpose designed as a sports coupe from the start. Things like BMW, although almost "there", are actually saloons with a coupe roof so aren't really a proper comparison to the Capri. To be honest, they're as close as you're going to get. While the coupe 3 series may look a lot like the saloon, you'll probably find there are quite a lot of differences between the two. They look a lot alike because of the increased want of manufacturers for their cars to look quite similar to promote a stronger sense of brand identity
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andyborris
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Pug 406 is a good investment tip for the future, last of the Pinn designs, 407 was done "in house" (and it shows!).
Check the values of previous Pinn coupes.
I'd get one myself, but the present girlfiend doesn't like them, a previous girlfiend had one!
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Whilst the Capri used the mechanicals of an ordinary Cortina saloon the actual bodyshell was a purpose designed as a sports coupe from the start. Things like BMW, although almost "there", are actually saloons with a coupe roof so aren't really a proper comparison to the Capri. To be honest, they're as close as you're going to get. While the coupe 3 series may look a lot like the saloon, you'll probably find there are quite a lot of differences between the two. They look a lot alike because of the increased want of manufacturers for their cars to look quite similar to promote a stronger sense of brand identity Yes while the E46 Coupe shares the suspension/subframes & engines with the Saloon - the shell is quite different. I don't think there is much else that has the same masses want factor that the 3 series coupe has, there is a model for most people.
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Last Edit: Dec 4, 2014 19:14:52 GMT by joem83
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