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I think that the Capri was very unique, it was when new and it still is now! The only reason that it was discontinued was that the market for that kind of car no longer existed hence the void not really being filled...
It is a shame that nothing really comes close but the 3-series (now 4-series) BMW is of that ilk I suppose...
Come on Ford, let's make a 'new' Capri...!!!! PLEASE...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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***GARAGE CURRENTLY EMPTY***
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We should be getting the new Mustang, with 2.0L Turbo engine & fake engine noise... Sadly Ford are killing the RWD Falcon platform in Oz - it would have been nice for them to build a coupe out of it and bring it over here instead.
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I think that the Capri was very unique, it was when new and it still is now! Not really answering the OP's exam question, but not entirely agreeing the Capri was completely unique. Loosely the Capri was a contemporary of the Triumph GT6 (Herald/Vitesse based) or the Opel Manta (Asconda/Cavalier based), not sure if the Rover P5 coupe counts as it retained four doors and was probably too up-market compared with the Capri.
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We should be getting the new Mustang, with 2.0L Turbo engine & fake engine noise... Sadly Ford are killing the RWD Falcon platform in Oz - it would have been nice for them to build a coupe out of it and bring it over here instead. A Falcon coupe would be at least as big as the Mustang, so that doesn't make much sense. The original Mustang was created from the Falcon platform in 1964! In order to follow the same thinking as the original, a new Capri would be derived from the Focus, with low-slung bodywork.
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Talking about humble underpinnings and taking it visually to the max:
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Click picture for more
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The hot hatch largely made coupes redundant. Objectively, they were doomed.
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Roobeh
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But what about A bit bigger with Omega underpinnings and large V8s but certainly similar in an Australian way.
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Last Edit: Dec 4, 2014 22:20:44 GMT by Roobeh
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andyw
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But what about A bit bigger with Omega underpinnings and large V8s but certainly similar in an Australian way. I got to the end of the topic and thought, nobody has mentioned the Monaro yet! Not sure how cheap they are but I always fancied one. 200sx would be another candidate but they seem to come in three types - rusty. death by drifting or mint and expensive. I own two Ford Probes - they are FWD but really good value at the moment, prices for really low mileage ones are starting to comand a few quid but for £700-£900 you can get a reasonably good car. The club (ukpoc.co.uk) is great for technical help and a good social side. Classic insurance is available on them now too.
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bobman
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The nearest I can think of is Audi TT 2.0 TFSI , Audi S2 , BMW M3 e30 , Renault Laguna Coupe GT 3.5 V6 , Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 JTS V6 Q4 , also the Cougar is actually slower then a 2.8 Capri well on paper with 125hp/tonne vrs 2.8Capri with 132/tonne or a Essex engine with 115/tonne minus the Cougar the Capri is the slowest of the bunch, But none of the above are anything like a Capri & that's comparing performance and I don't think many people bought Capris for performance the V6 cars sold the worst of them all and when they made the RS's ended up shifting most to motorsport teams and only made 250 RS3100's because there was no demand, The mk1 was built as a GT car between the lower Cortina and higher Zephyrs and Zodiacs and was sold as a average car for the familyman that looked like a sports car, the mk2&3 were just follow ups/ Major facelifts and sales tactics
Its abit silly that the Probe which was built as a successor to the Carpi isn't really seen as its successor by the public, but looking back at reviews when new it was out classed by other brands when released so didn't sell well, on paper its also one of the closest to the Capri with 128hp/tonne
I think the Monaro could be seen as a modern comparison for the Macho big RWD coupe aspect but maybe if it came with the old 3.0gsi engine & floppy suspension it would be the modern Capri
Cool thread good question op
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Last Edit: Dec 5, 2014 23:38:20 GMT by bobman
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Up to a few months ago I would have said that the Hyundai Coupe was the nearest successor, a coupe based on a saloon floorpan with four or six pot engines. Then my Mother (73 years old by the way) bought one as her new daily. It's more powerful than my daily driven 2.0 Capri, it's faster and it handles and brakes better. It's also way more cramped, both in the back and in front headroom and has horribly uncomfortable seats. Personally if I had to drive a couple of hundred miles I'd sooner take the Capri. It probably comes closer to the original concept than most moderns but it cant hold a candle to the original
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I think that the Capri was very unique, it was when new and it still is now! The only reason that it was discontinued was that the market for that kind of car no longer existed hence the void not really being filled... It is a shame that nothing really comes close but the 3-series (now 4-series) BMW is of that ilk I suppose... Come on Ford, let's make a 'new' Capri...!!!! PLEASE...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When the Capri was coming to the end of it's life in the 80s it was really a bit of a national joke. After all they gave Del Boy one didn't they.
I think the rise of the hot hatch lead people to expect a performance car that can earn it's keep, i.e. one you can fit the family and their gear into. I imagine if there really was a gap in themarket for a modern capri equivalent- two door non premuim brand sporty coupe, (and rear wheel drive too) then someone would be making one. That renault Laguna above is probably the nearest and how many of those do you see on the roads?
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When the Capri was coming to the end of it's life in the 80s it was really a bit of a national joke. After all they gave Del Boy one didn't they. Somebody I know was in the market for an sporty type car at the time Capri ceased production. He looked at the Brooklands as dealers were having to give substantial discount to sell them. In the end he bought a couple year old used 911 !
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But what about A bit bigger with Omega underpinnings and large V8s but certainly similar in an Australian way. Hell YEAH!
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Last Edit: Dec 7, 2014 20:01:30 GMT by super89
1972 Mini Clubman (1275 GT rep)
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1992 Mercedes 190D 2.5
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bortaf
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Anyone said the Probe yet? Ford intended it to be the new capri? Ok it failed. gets coat
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Anyone said the Probe yet? Ford intended it to be the new capri? Ok it failed. gets coat Think the probe would have done better had it been cheaper, i was 9/10 when it came out but I remember it being quite expensive.
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Anyone said the Probe yet? Ford intended it to be the new capri? Ok it failed. gets coat Think the probe would have done better had it been cheaper, i was 9/10 when it came out but I remember it being quite expensive. No Probe wasn't even meant to come to Europe, ford needed a replacement for the Mustang and when they acquired Mazda they had a 2 door coupe program well underway so they thought they would use that and got quite a way through the program until some one high up in ford said wtf we are building a Japanese Mustang!! and the idea was dropped but they had invested quite a bit of money in the project so just booted it across the pond and it became the Probe in Europe and Mazda in Asia, it must have sold well enough because they did the Cougar after that. But you are all forgetting the new Mustang is coming to the UK right hand drive and rear wheel drive v8 or 4 pot , can't see there ever being a euro Ford developed coupe, they don't even make a 3dr Focus anymore . The Mondeo is a US developed Ford Fusion and if you want to see something horrific then look at the next Ka to replace the Fait derived Ka it's hideous!!
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I kinda like the V6 24V Probe.
So much so, that I've even considered buying a low miles one, sticking an MOT on it and using it at weekends, then hopefully selling it for a tidy sum later on in life.
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The lurker formerly known as Cappuccinocruiser.. or wedgedout..
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I kinda like the V6 24V Probe. So much so, that I've even considered buying a low miles one, sticking an MOT on it and using it at weekends, then hopefully selling it for a tidy sum later on in life. You see quite a few in Germany it must have been a good seller for them in Germany, it came out when there was a bit of a coupe revival, with the Rover tomcat, the audi coupe, Rover 800 coupe, BMW coupe, Volkswagen Corrado, Toyota cupra etc, they are all now cheap as chips so are disappearing fast, how long before prices creep back up well time will tell.
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andyw
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Think the probe would have done better had it been cheaper, i was 9/10 when it came out but I remember it being quite expensive. No Probe wasn't even meant to come to Europe, ford needed a replacement for the Mustang and when they acquired Mazda they had a 2 door coupe program well underway so they thought they would use that and got quite a way through the program until some one high up in ford said wtf we are building a Japanese Mustang!! and the idea was dropped but they had invested quite a bit of money in the project so just booted it across the pond and it became the Probe in Europe and Mazda in Asia, it must have sold well enough because they did the Cougar after that. Partly correct - Mustang owners protested about the loss of the 'stang - the fox body came out in '79 so was long in the tooth, the Mk1 probe came out in '89 and was based upon the mk1 mazda 626 coupe. When the GE Mazda 626 platform came out Ford could have stopped production of the probe at that point but decided to develop an new model which is the one which came to the UK. This came out in the states in late '92 (as a '93 model) and we finally got them in March/April 1994. The new Mustang which came out in 1995 (IIRC) killed of the sales of the car in the US by 1997 so that signaled the death of the model. Ford sold the Probe in the UK, Europe, Australia and even Japan as the Ford Probe. The Mx-6 sister car was build alongside the Probe and the Auto Alliance Factory in Flatrock Michigan for the US market. UK spec mx-6's come from Japan though. In the UK it was quite expensive and Ford did some stupid things with the option list - meaning a loaded 16v could have cost you £21,000. Insurance groups were daft too - group 16 and 17.
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That has answered something that I've been mystified about for nearly 25 years ! In late 1989 / early 1990 I was at a petrol station and saw a car I didn't recognise. Closer look showed it was a Ford Probe but LHD. At the time there was no such car sold in the UK. Must have been an import of some type - maybe for assessment as white colour but tatty looking / very dirty despite having a brand new UK reg. Anyway I now know it was a MKI Probe
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