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If you are selling your A series turbo bits then I'm in the market for it. What turbo are you running? And what manifold is it on? Is it still T2 and Mirage? I'll be tempted by your carb, plenum and inlet etc. Drop me a PM if you wanna sell ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Dec 17, 2010 10:22:09 GMT
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You will probably get away with not having it inspected for quite a while, but the day an MOT tester raises concerns or the day you are stopped at a VOSA checkpoint, then the logbook will be taken way and you wont be able to put it back on the road untill it has passed the test. I have a friendly MOT tester,who's to say it wasnt done in 1969?or the mid 70's? It will have tax MOT and insurance, aswell as an Engineer's report if need be, If i end up having to get an IVA then so be it, if it fails,il take it to the south of france, or use it for track days.... I'm not being told what to do by this Govenment anymore, I have had enough,only a fool hasnt.
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Dec 17, 2010 13:36:04 GMT
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Nice project! Like the look of it when you had it turbo'd can't wait to see it with a v6. BIVA or not. Haha
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Dec 17, 2010 13:59:36 GMT
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I have a friendly MOT tester,who's to say it wasnt done in 1969?or the mid 70's?
the engine of choice wasn't built until 95.
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Its not broken, its resting! Max signature image height: 80px
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Dec 17, 2010 17:14:46 GMT
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I have a friendly MOT tester,who's to say it wasnt done in 1969?or the mid 70's? the engine of choice wasn't built until 95. but the essex V6 i have sitting infront of me was.......
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Dec 17, 2010 17:36:32 GMT
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You will probably get away with not having it inspected for quite a while, but the day an MOT tester raises concerns or the day you are stopped at a VOSA checkpoint, then the logbook will be taken way and you wont be able to put it back on the road untill it has passed the test. If I end up having to get an IVA then so be it, if it fails,il take it to the south of france, or use it for track days.... I'm not being told what to do by this Govenment anymore, I have had enough,only a fool hasnt. I can assure you 100% that it will never, ever get remotely close to nearly being even slightly legal in France! plus the consequences of getting caught with it are significantly more severe than UK ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Your enthusiasm is great and I really don't want to pee on that, but you have to realise that the days of just doing as you please to a car, insuring and MOTing it are over. I'm not saying don't build it, but you need to research things very carefully indeed before picking the grinder up, as it WILL need BIVA inspection, and as a pickup, even this may not be possible. There is currently a thread at the top of the general board about the pitfalls of pickup conversions, and the jist of it us a straight conversion of an existing monocoque is not legally possible, unless it is a gound-up amateur built car, which I doubt your plans will qualify for.
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1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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Dec 17, 2010 18:43:43 GMT
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If I end up having to get an IVA then so be it, if it fails,il take it to the south of france, or use it for track days.... I'm not being told what to do by this Govenment anymore, I have had enough,only a fool hasnt. I can assure you 100% that it will never, ever get remotely close to nearly being even slightly legal in France! plus the consequences of getting caught with it are significantly more severe than UK ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Your enthusiasm is great and I really don't want to pee on that, but you have to realise that the days of just doing as you please to a car, insuring and MOTing it are over. I'm not saying don't build it, but you need to research things very carefully indeed before picking the grinder up, as it WILL need BIVA inspection, and as a pickup, even this may not be possible. There is currently a thread at the top of the general board about the pitfalls of pickup conversions, and the jist of it us a straight conversion of an existing monocoque is not legally possible, unless it is a gound-up amateur built car, which I doubt your plans will qualify for. Looks like it'l have to be a twin turbo then, because they'l have to catch me first!!!! ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) your right dave it does look like as its a pickup i may have a problem, I'm just gonna worry about it when the time comes, besides its still gonna look standard, apart from the 13'' wheels........
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Engine and floors arrived this week!! going to be a busy bee this weekend... ![](http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/ayp870h/msdengine.jpg) ![](http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/ayp870h/msdengine2.jpg) ![](http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u264/ayp870h/msdengine4.jpg)
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Last Edit: Feb 3, 2011 21:01:14 GMT by Rubicon
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i thought this was getting a 3.0?
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I thought this was getting a 3.0? Me too, but these MSD 2.5's have around 190-200hp , I'm told they are better for turbo-ing too, by adding 3.0 heads to lower the CR, but it'l do for now....lol
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I thought this was getting a 3.0? Me too, but these MSD 2.5's have around 190-200hp , I'm told they are better for turbo-ing too, by adding 3.0 heads to lower the CR, but it'l do for now....lol would you not have trouble with the x30xe being 86mm bore and the x25xe being 81.6mm bore? As far as I know the engine to use for turbo/supercharging is either the y26se or y32se found in later omegas/vectras I believe as they have lower compression and a stronger steel crank. One of the issues however with the YxxSE engines is the fly by wire throttle used however I think you can put the injection system and possibly heads off the XxxXE engines on to them to get rid of this. Also I think one of the first mods people carry out on these engines is a lightened flywheel as the standard one is unbelievably heavy, you can use a standard c20xe one as a cheap alternative. Also from doing some maths it doesnt seem like a good idea to run the x25xe inlet on the x30xe unless you really have to. If you calculate the area of the throttle body you will see why, I would give the measurments but I'm in germany at the moment and my mates mk2 cav with an x30xe in is in the uk ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Apologies for the rambling post but its 02:15 over here! Rosco EDIT: also another good mod for the x25xe is the x30xe lower inlet divider but you probably already knew most of this..
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Last Edit: Feb 4, 2011 1:15:26 GMT by roscocav
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thanks for the info rosco!! it all helps, well i would have thought as it is a larger bore on the 3.0 the chamber's in the headwould be larger? il have to look at one first, i NEED to get on mig-web tbh as like i say I'm very new to whats what on these motor's,
i think il get it in the hole, get it running then start choosing which route to go....its all money....lol i have a feeling it will go ok standard, if these vectra's will do 145 ish, not that id ever go that fast....
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how heavy is this engine? I'd be concerned about the handling more than how much power it'll have. bearing in mind a zcars with a 220bhp honda 2.0L was on a knife engine on the track. your longer chassis might help things though.
Matt
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thanks for the info rosco!! it all helps, well I would have thought as it is a larger bore on the 3.0 the chamber's in the headwould be larger? il have to look at one first, I NEED to get on mig-web tbh as like I say I'm very new to whats what on these motor's, I think il get it in the hole, get it running then start choosing which route to go....its all money....lol I have a feeling it will go ok standard, if these vectra's will do 145 ish, not that id ever go that fast.... try this one ........ more skill on there than mig www.vauxhallsportforum.com/phpBB2/progress-f19.html
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also, c20let bore is 86mm, x30xe bore is 86mm... just going to throw that out there..... to be honest i think the problem with FI vauxhall v6's is that they cook the back bank of pistons... not sure youd have this issue being in a pickup though ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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how heavy is this engine? I'd be concerned about the handling more than how much power it'll have. bearing in mind a zcars with a 220bhp honda 2.0L was on a knife engine on the track. your longer chassis might help things though. Matt i think its in the region of 160kg's inc box? but il weigh it when i get a min, il be honest, I'm not really that worried about the handling as its not going to be a track weapon or anything, more likey just a quick daily, that will see the strip. id prefer it to be able to oversteer,but only time will tell i guess.
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also, c20let bore is 86mm, x30xe bore is 86mm... just going to throw that out there..... to be honest I think the problem with FI vauxhall v6's is that they cook the back bank of pistons... not sure youd have this issue being in a pickup though ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) all in time rosco! the 3.0's seem cheap enough, so i may get one to strip at some point,i need to look into the SAAB V6 aswell as thats a GM V6 so i assume the turbo manifolds on the 9-3 turbo will fit? ive heard about the rear bank cooking too, but i doubt that'l be an issue for me....lol
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just read that the saab turbo manifolds fit on the front bank, so i assume as the heads are symetricali could fit one to the rear too? save making a manifold.....
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just read that the saab turbo manifolds fit on the front bank, so I assume as the heads are symetricali could fit one to the rear too? save making a manifold..... as far as i know you are correct in believing so but you might get clearance issues on the alternator? I'm fairly sure the issue with the rear bank cooking up is due to the design of the waterways, hence why when i believe swindon turbo charged the vauxhall v6 they redesigned the waterways in the block? might be talking wibblepoo on that one though.... How many lambda's does the x25xe come with? i think it uses 4? that might be the x30xe though...
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i think there is only 2 , one in each downpipe, i have a seirra cosworth rad that will be mounted in the front and run the pipework through the tunnel, so i hope it should keep cool enough!!
ordered some cds so once that gets here i can fit the hoop and start somemore cutting!!
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