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Dec 25, 2005 23:17:53 GMT
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Just watching "Wheeler Dealers" on Discovery "real-time" with Mick Brewer... they're quite old, but in this one hes buying an integrale to "do up" and sell for a profit. One glaringly obvious "fault" with the one hes bought is that its Right Hand Drive? now I was under the impression that a RHD conversion was very tricky on these due to the turbo position? He claims on the programme that it was a factory conversion. Were there ever any Lancia built RHD Integrales?
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I don't think there were ever any RHD factory cars. But there used to be a lot of converted cars kicking around. Some were quite bad conversions though. IIRC one common way was using a chain from the old steering column to the right hand side of the car.
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Dec 26, 2005 14:49:55 GMT
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using a chain from the old steering column to the right hand side
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Dec 26, 2005 14:51:28 GMT
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lancia forums say stay away from RHD ones as none were ever made
since when did brewer know what the feck he was on about lol
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2001 HONDA CT110 (NOT RCV)
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Dec 26, 2005 15:31:14 GMT
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IIRC, it depends on who did the conversion, but I seem to recall that the lhd ones reputedly had better steering.....
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Dec 26, 2005 17:08:39 GMT
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isn't that why most touring and rally cars are LHD? Because they're designed to be european, and when you start flipping bits over to the 'right' side you lose a lot of feel and reliability? ISTR that's why Polo brakes were so poor, because they left the servo on left side of the car and just ran a crazy linkage to it.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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Dec 26, 2005 17:23:48 GMT
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isn't that why most touring and rally cars are LHD? Because they're designed to be european, and when you start flipping bits over to the 'right' side you lose a lot of feel and reliability? ISTR that's why Polo brakes were so poor, because they left the servo on left side of the car and just ran a crazy linkage to it. Thats one reason. Another is that it was supposedly easier and faster and more precise to change gear with your right hand than your left (if your right handed)
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Dec 26, 2005 19:09:35 GMT
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see this is where i have the advantage, I'm a lefty! although shifting quickly isnt much if i cant steer too well with my right hand whilst shifting
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Dec 26, 2005 19:58:08 GMT
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isn't that why most touring and rally cars are LHD? Because they're designed to be european, and when you start flipping bits over to the 'right' side you lose a lot of feel and reliability? ISTR that's why Polo brakes were so poor, because they left the servo on left side of the car and just ran a crazy linkage to it. Well it depends really, not all cars have less feel and reliability when they're a different hand drive from they were designed. If you take a look under the bonnet of an Imp, for example, once all the trim that sits over the arches and petrol tank has been removed, you can see the alloy blanking points put in where the steering column and pedal box would be if the car was LHD, it's the same for many RWD Volvos and various other cars. This is because the car was designed from the outset to be LHD and RHD, which in many cases extends to ensuring that the design of the brakes and steering aren't compromised by the conversion, i.e. the steering column clears everything under the bonnet etc. Of course it's more complicated where the car was never supposed to be RHD, for example the Delta Intergrale or many Soviet cars who weren't originally designed for other markets. I'm not sure if it's true, but I've heard that the reason the Volga M21 was never sent to Britian in any real numbers, despite being sent to Belgium, Germany and other European states a great deal, supposedly there were a lot of Volga taxis in Belgium in the 60s, is because it would've been a real job to re-engineer it to RHD, for a start the bulkhead wasn't designed for it. Certainly GAZ let British journalists road test LHD M21s but never got any further, that could be the reason.
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"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
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I think there are a few RHD conversions knocking around, no shortage of RHD delta dashboards after all so thats half the mountain climbed so to speak. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the rack used was a Regata diesel one, which was suitable due to being power-assisted but a bit lower-geared than the original LHD item so not quite as responsive.
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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The RHD conversion on Mk1 Golfs and Mk1/Mk2 Sciroccos has a number of glaringly obvious faults (the clutch cable and brake linkage being the obvious ones) and the Mk2 Golf accelerator cable is a bit curse word on RHD cars as well. Polos are OK on the whole though.
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RHD Delta Integrale?DarrenW
@darrenw
Club Retro Rides Member 74
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The RHD conversion on Mk1 Golfs and Mk1/Mk2 Sciroccos has a number of glaringly obvious faults (the clutch cable and brake linkage being the obvious ones) and the Mk2 Golf accelerator cable is a bit curse word on RHD cars as well. Polos are OK on the whole though. This is true... I've often wondered what a LHD Mk1 GTI is like to drive compared to mine!
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