Mr K
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,993
|
|
|
Happy birthday to Jesus, meatballturbo, freeeekin, and any other fellow xmas birthday people!! Sucks having ure birthday on xmas doesnt it guys. oh well, atleast i can drink now!! lol.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Happy birthday to RatlookReliant, Jesus, meatballturbo and freeeekin
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
happy birthday to the others, but jesus wasnt born on the 25th dec.if my informant is correct he was born in july.
|
|
|
|
Mr K
Posted a lot
Posts: 2,993
|
|
Dec 25, 2005 11:19:59 GMT
|
happy birthday to the others, but jesus wasnt born on the 25th dec.if my informant is correct he was born in july. so what are we doing today? lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 25, 2005 13:56:18 GMT
|
Happy Birthday to you all and jesus
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 25, 2005 14:31:53 GMT
|
Well I'm not actually a christain but I'll wish those of you who aren't 2000 odd years old and claiming to be the Messiah a happy birthday! ;D ;D To be honest I think they can't tell when Jesus was actually born, (if he was actually born of course), probably some pope or religious leader or other decided centuries ago that 25/12 was the exact date for it and it's stuck since. Either way these days christmas is as much a purely secular celebration of good will and charity as anything else, (well, that or another chance for some wealthy capitalists to further line their pockets, depending on who you ask and how far left they are!) so I don't think we need bother with whether it's the correct original date or not.
|
|
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
|
|
|
|
Dec 25, 2005 21:33:35 GMT
|
its not the date its the point of it thats importnat anyway. if oyu wnat to be weird, its actually highly unlikely the Jesus was born in what we know as yr 0. but thats middle dark age cardinals for you lol
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
i want me some jesus arge carzzzzzzzzzz. # womma dat old der curse word innit
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 26, 2005 10:03:20 GMT
|
Happy day of christian celebration that convincingly ties in with an older pagan festival so that pagans could seamlessly be turned over to the will of their new masters.
*n
|
|
Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
|
|
|
|
Dec 26, 2005 11:54:08 GMT
|
Well I'm not actually a christain but I'll wish those of you who aren't 2000 odd years old and claiming to be the Messiah a happy birthday! ;D ;D To be honest I think they can't tell when Jesus was actually born, (if he was actually born of course)..... IIRC, Jesus (Greek version of the Hebrew name Joshua) was born sometime in the late summer / autumn of 4 BC. As for his existance, that is accepted as historical fact since he is also mentioned in several non-Christian sources from the same time. The issue that is disputed is whether or not he was the Messiah ('Christ' is a title, not a name / surname and comes from the Greek for the Hebrew / Aramaic 'Messiah', meaning 'Annointed One') & also the Son of God. As a Christian, I happen to believe that he was
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 26, 2005 13:21:11 GMT
|
Fine by me mate, don't mistake me for one of these foaming at the mouth atheists who personally dislike all christians, I have issues with various christain churches as organisations, and there are individual christians I find disagreeable, but for the most part I have nothing against you lot and I have no problem with what you believe, just that I don't believe that there is, or ever has been, a God, a messiah, Allah, Buddha, Jaweh, or any other divine entities. As for Jesus being historically proven, I know that Islam has mentions of him as a prophet and that Jewish and Buddhist texts make mention of him, I was meaning that if he actually existed in the form that christians believe, i.e. as "Christ" the messiah. As I say, I don't believe what the Bible, the Koran, the Torah or any other religious texts tell me, but I've read lots of things that I don't believe, (not that I've read the Koran or Torah in any great detail although I've read bits of them, I went to a catholic school so I read far more of the Bible than I'd care to, that part of my life is also where my objection to the Catholic church and churches in general comes from!) it's a person's right and responsibility to decide how much of what they read they believe, otherwise we'd believe everything the newspapers tell us to!
|
|
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
|
|
|
|
Dec 26, 2005 15:10:33 GMT
|
Happy Birthday to me yesterday. And likewise, Even though christened, I'm so non practicing, and have so many other beliefs that I'm practically pagan. But when those PC PR loving septics start spouting about "happy Holiday", I'm the first to point out it is "Christmas", the "Christ Mass", a day noted for the celebration (real or symbolic) of the birth of a man called jesus known in various historical texts to have a been a good, honest and generous man to others, and believed by Christians to be the son of god sent to teach us, and absolve our sins. At least give good honest Christians the respect they are are due, and say their festival names properly. I would never disgregard anyones personal faiths, it is the institutions of religion I despise, not those who have chosen a path of genuine belief.
|
|
|
|