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Aug 26, 2005 12:05:11 GMT
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Well I've got a semi retro 1984 starlet (the old rwd ones) and came across this forum. wanted to know if there were other owners I could bounce some ideas and knowledge from? In fact anybody who can give me some ideas about modfying old carb'ed up toyotas and old J cars too. Cheers Oliver
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Aug 26, 2005 12:15:29 GMT
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J cars you say? right place you've found!
not me personally - i prefer things german and brown - but there'll be a fair few eyes light up when they see the J word.
got any pics of yours? i do like the old Starlet.... welcome to the forum!
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Last Edit: Aug 26, 2005 12:15:41 GMT by Pillock
Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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Aug 26, 2005 12:16:01 GMT
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welcome to the forum. Personally, I'm not too up on J stuff - but this forum is J crazy, you have definitely come to the right place! Theres loads of clued up people on here Starlets do rule! Got any pics?
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Aug 26, 2005 12:17:19 GMT
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I'm not hugely clued up on Starlets,.. but what sort of ideas you got?? We may know some people/sites that have the info your after
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Aug 26, 2005 12:33:28 GMT
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Remove bumpers, smooth off, fit MK2 Escort 'works arches' (they can be blended in quite well), Fit 4 Cibies (2 up 2 down), roll cage. Revolution 4 spoke wheels.
1984 so that would be a 'Square Headlight' model then.
Don't laugh but if you can find a decent Nikki carb (remember the 'Nikki carburettor conversion kit' in the 80's?) fit it if yours is running a bit rough (does it have the aisan carburettor?)
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oli
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Aug 26, 2005 12:38:02 GMT
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Cheers for the warm welcome. the car I have is an 84 starlet (mk 3) with a 1 litre 4 speed box. Plan was to drop a 4age from a corolla gt twincam but as you might have noticed the prices for these have gone through the roof and parts would be expensive to get. My idea is to make it a nippy runaround with a bit of track action in the future as this is more of a project and a learning thing (cr@p at the mechanics thing so wanted to learn on something basic!) so now I'm looking at a 1.3 with a 5 speed gearbox from an old KE70 corolla rwd saloon (some frineds will be doing the conversion while I make the tea's!) My main thing is to sort out some of the rust or prevent it from developing further so have bought some rustbullet (probably useless but I believed the sales stuff on the site) and some waxoyl. Any ideas of what to do on that? Then looking at the tuning to release some more go from the 1.3 carbed 4k engine anyway some pics heres what I want it to look like!
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oli
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Aug 26, 2005 12:42:40 GMT
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Remove bumpers, smooth off, fit MK2 Escort 'works arches' (they can be blended in quite well), Fit 4 Cibies (2 up 2 down), roll cage. Revolution 4 spoke wheels. 1984 so that would be a 'Square Headlight' model then. Don't laugh but if you can find a decent Nikki carb (remember the 'Nikki carburettor conversion kit' in the 80's?) fit it if yours is running a bit rough (does it have the aisan carburettor?) Hmm.......... is that the irish style as I've seen some twin cams with the minilites and cibies. Also the starlets with mexico splitters and some forest arches. Look hella sweet! Cheers for the info I really do appreciate your input as I'm pretty much a noob Haha! The litre in it now isn't rough at all it starts first time and I drove it back from essex a good 100 mile trip with no problems what so ever got her up to 70 mph too. I thnik it's the aisin carb but as posted i'm too hot on that side of things. I'm looking at performance for the 1.3 4k more so - any ideas on what can be done for those? cheers
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Aug 26, 2005 12:50:12 GMT
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Hey there and welcome to the forums, I'm not sure of engine availability in your place of residence, but another option if you want a power upgrade for your Starly is a 2TGEU or 3TGEU conversion 4AGE's in NZ are quite plentiful and I'm having trouble selling a 20valve 4AGE w/ ITB's, ECU, Loom and Auto trans from an AE101 for $400NZD. Pain in the ass thing to get rid of.
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Aug 26, 2005 13:34:47 GMT
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Ha Ha ha, there it is in a nutshell - did you get that OK oli?
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Aug 26, 2005 13:38:59 GMT
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Hello and Welcome.
Some springs need cutting!
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Aug 26, 2005 13:46:39 GMT
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Welcome mate, and what a cool car! I think your starlet is itching to get it chops round a 4AGE lump ;-) Bulletproof, cheap, and should fit in pretty easy, lots of tuning potential too as it was used in the formula atlantic series. Oh yeah and it gotta be decked,, i wanna see that floor pan where it should be, on the floor!
cheers J
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Darrel
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Aug 26, 2005 14:27:46 GMT
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Christ that brings back some memorys. Ive owned over 10 of those. Racing 9 of them. Engine wise the 1 litre could be Very fast, easily tuned to whip the 1.3 anyday. I would go for the 1.2 engine rather than the 1.3. Still available and revs like made. Far quicker than the 1.3. As for arches, bodykit etc go to a Speedworth Oval race circuit (theres bound to be one not too far) and you will see a few of these still race. Go into the pits and ill garuntee you some people can sell you some uprated bits that are not allowed to race there because they are too quick hence don't comply for their races. What you see there will be all 1.2's as they are the quickest. As for the springs buy some spring lowering clamps. An hours work and you can diy do it. I would love another one again, but they are now VERY rare. Hope this helps.
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oli
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Aug 26, 2005 15:01:06 GMT
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Hey there and welcome to the forums, I'm not sure of engine availability in your place of residence, but another option if you want a power upgrade for your Starly is a 2TGEU or 3TGEU conversion 4AGE's in NZ are quite plentiful and I'm having trouble selling a 20valve 4AGE w/ ITB's, ECU, Loom and Auto trans from an AE101 for $400NZD. Pain in the ass thing to get rid of. I was wondering about the 2t and 3t engines waht do they come from? Also I can't believe the 4age on itb's is that hard to get rid of?? maybe its the auto transmission? are the T50 box's that rare? hell how much would it cost to impor tover to the UK as I'm sure there are a few people interested here as a guy I know Paz is doing his at the moment for his trueno. Christ that brings back some memorys. Ive owned over 10 of those. Racing 9 of them. Engine wise the 1 litre could be Very fast, easily tuned to whip the 1.3 anyday. I would go for the 1.2 engine rather than the 1.3. Still available and revs like made. Far quicker than the 1.3. As for arches, bodykit etc go to a Speedworth Oval race circuit (theres bound to be one not too far) and you will see a few of these still race. Go into the pits and ill garuntee you some people can sell you some uprated bits that are not allowed to race there because they are too quick hence don't comply for their races. What you see there will be all 1.2's as they are the quickest. As for the springs buy some spring lowering clamps. An hours work and you can diy do it. I would love another one again, but they are now VERY rare. Hope this helps. Boycie cheers for the insight and info deffo waht I'm looking for - some one who knows about stock car racing. What would you suggest for the 2k litre engine then? I'm thinking that more displacement is better but as you mentioned there are things I could do. I was even thinking abuot a 5k from a liteace!! Whereabouts are you and can you point me in the right direction for any bits? I know of george polley motor sport as he does some bits but as a project car I'm looking to do things cost effectively and minimum outlay i.e. cheap secondhand parts. Cheers guys I know i need the springs cut but I'm thinking of some coilovers soon and have even been told about standard starlet turbo springs up front and standard mr2 turbo ones for rear. but who knows??
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Aug 26, 2005 16:54:26 GMT
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Personally I would go for a 4AGE engine they arent to difficult or expensive to get if you go for one from a front drive corolla or even a MK1 MR2. You can get scrap cars with good engines for 100-200 pound your better of getting the complete car just for the loom. The only problem with using one of those is that the inlet manifold intake would be at the rear of the engine in a rear drive installation. But its easy enough to cut it off and weld it to the front. Fensport still do the bellhousing adaptors to fit them to a ford box or if you keep an eye on ebay T50 gearboxes from ae86`s keep popping up for 50-75 pound.
Do it you know you want to ;D
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Aug 26, 2005 18:00:59 GMT
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welocome alomg oli, rare J cars are the new black u know ;D ;D ;D
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oli
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Aug 26, 2005 20:01:01 GMT
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well i would want to 4age it but thing is cash! or lack of......... i couldn't do it myself and couldn't afford to pay someone to do it! the 4k swap is a cheap alternative as corolla gt stuff is demanding top dollar at the moment to keeping it starly will keep costs down.
Just out of curiosity anyone intersted in buying it? I have had another offer that sounds good.
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Aug 26, 2005 20:24:58 GMT
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Het Oli, welcome to retro rides, love the rollin on steelies look- in fact the starlet looks great.
Always fancied one, but I've been banned from buying any more cars...
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oli
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Aug 26, 2005 20:51:55 GMT
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panda matt.......sounds like you were being sarcastic but maybe you weren't ?? anyway thanks for he welcome and comments. People I've shown it to think I'm completely insane!! especially the missus when I first showed her lol
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Aug 26, 2005 21:04:03 GMT
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He wasnt! Its the style at the moment!
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Aug 26, 2005 22:52:20 GMT
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If you keep it George Polley is Good for spares. The last time I looked it was £30 a full set of metal arches, £30 the wide sill kit (all metal) and £40 for a lightweight bonnet. With the engine youve got you can easily add another 30 bhp just by making it breath better and doing the basics to it ie: Less restrictive exhaust, twin choke webber, K+N, Skim and polish the head and manifolds. Maybe a mild road cam at about £90 for another 10bhp. Its a massivly tuneable engine that still exists to this day on brand new cars. So definately worth tuning id say. If you decide to keep it that is. I really would not get it over 100bhp though as although we used to like it because it was very tail happy it is VERY light and can catch you unaware in the wet. Especially with the leafspring rear suspension.180's on roundabouts used to be commonplace ;D Hey there and welcome to the forums, I'm not sure of engine availability in your place of residence, but another option if you want a power upgrade for your Starly is a 2TGEU or 3TGEU conversion 4AGE's in NZ are quite plentiful and I'm having trouble selling a 20valve 4AGE w/ ITB's, ECU, Loom and Auto trans from an AE101 for $400NZD. Pain in the ass thing to get rid of. I was wondering about the 2t and 3t engines waht do they come from? Also I can't believe the 4age on itb's is that hard to get rid of?? maybe its the auto transmission? are the T50 box's that rare? hell how much would it cost to impor tover to the UK as I'm sure there are a few people interested here as a guy I know Paz is doing his at the moment for his trueno. Christ that brings back some memorys. Ive owned over 10 of those. Racing 9 of them. Engine wise the 1 litre could be Very fast, easily tuned to whip the 1.3 anyday. I would go for the 1.2 engine rather than the 1.3. Still available and revs like made. Far quicker than the 1.3. As for arches, bodykit etc go to a Speedworth Oval race circuit (theres bound to be one not too far) and you will see a few of these still race. Go into the pits and ill garuntee you some people can sell you some uprated bits that are not allowed to race there because they are too quick hence don't comply for their races. What you see there will be all 1.2's as they are the quickest. As for the springs buy some spring lowering clamps. An hours work and you can diy do it. I would love another one again, but they are now VERY rare. Hope this helps. Boycie cheers for the insight and info deffo waht I'm looking for - some one who knows about stock car racing. What would you suggest for the 2k litre engine then? I'm thinking that more displacement is better but as you mentioned there are things I could do. I was even thinking abuot a 5k from a liteace!! Whereabouts are you and can you point me in the right direction for any bits? I know of george polley motor sport as he does some bits but as a project car I'm looking to do things cost effectively and minimum outlay i.e. cheap secondhand parts. Cheers guys I know i need the springs cut but I'm thinking of some coilovers soon and have even been told about standard starlet turbo springs up front and standard mr2 turbo ones for rear. but who knows??
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