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Nov 15, 2008 17:10:38 GMT
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Well, no-one seemed too interested in my TT (which i won an award for...), but i just built these. Just need to tidy up now. They dominate the room a little, need to clear up before the wife gets in ;D Proper, large, 70's style TL's. There 10" mid/bass drivers.
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Lex
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Nov 15, 2008 17:15:47 GMT
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Your cats seem to love them
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Resto-UKal
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Nov 15, 2008 17:17:48 GMT
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Something new for em to wreck
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rtlkyuubi
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Nov 15, 2008 18:09:04 GMT
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is there a reason the box's are so big? they look good though
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Nov 15, 2008 18:58:15 GMT
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Yes, they need a certain cabinet volume. They are a folded horn design, not just an empty box
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rysz
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Nov 15, 2008 19:48:51 GMT
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I take it that T Line is Transmission Line? IIRC, there was a guy with loads of t-line cabinets shoved in a rusty anglebox in the 90's and he was hitting SPL's of 147 ~ dB!
Sweet work that man!
Rysz.
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Nov 15, 2008 20:04:38 GMT
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Yep.
Why would anyone want to get to those levels!
These are powered by a 15w valve amp and anything over 1/4 volume is too loud.
Need to play with the crossovers now, get them sounding their best.
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rtlkyuubi
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Yes, they need a certain cabinet volume. They are a folded horn design, not just an empty box no idea what that means but kewl ;D
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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2008 0:00:51 GMT by rtlkyuubi
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folded horn sounds painfull
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Speakers, 70's styletourettesteddy
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Nov 16, 2008 10:15:59 GMT
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Found this on the net which might explain as I wasn't sure either.
Some speaker types are much more efficient than others: most notably, horn type systems are the most efficient. Some narrowband horn systems have efficiencies approaching 50% (this may still seem like a low number but for a speaker it is extremely high). The reason horn systems are so efficient is that the horn acts like an impedance matching device (to the air) ; essentially an acoustical transformer. Whenever you cup your hands around your mouth to increase the volume when shouting at someone, you are forming a (crude but effective) horn. Many high frequency and midrange speakers are of the horn variety. Due to physics, low frequency horn speakers are very large (if not huge); hence the reason for "horn woofers" being scarce. A number of low frequency horn systems are available, but they are usually of the folded horn design. Because a low frequency horn would be excessively large (a big consideration for portable sound systems), engineers came up with the folded horn design. Folded horns result in some losses (as compared to a "straight" horn), but the result is still a very efficient (again, relatively speaking) system.
Nice speakers though are you leaving them bare like in the pics or covering them?
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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2008 10:17:05 GMT by tourettesteddy
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Nov 16, 2008 11:23:25 GMT
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If i can tweek the crossovers and get em sounding nice ill veneer them and make em look nice.
If i cant get em sounding great ill put the drivers back in there origional cabs (in front of the TV) and scrap this project.
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Nov 16, 2008 18:08:55 GMT
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Well, they were sounding a bit flat, uncontrolled and had a hole in the upper bass/lower mid frequencies. Been playing with the stuffing Sounding ace now! Flat response down to 40hz with good bass extension down to, u dunno, lower than 30hz. They probably reach down lower too. Sort of seizmic room vibrating but too low to hear kind of bass. In a 1 bed flat i don't think the neighbours will like me much any more
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Nov 16, 2008 22:20:48 GMT
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Nice work there - Can I ask what the drivers are? Or are they 'unknown' in the best spirit of RR?
James
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Nov 16, 2008 22:26:26 GMT
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Seas A26RE4 and Seas 29TFF/W, although ill probably play with different tweeters.
I have cabinet plans and crossover schematics if anyone interested in building a pair.
There quite high sensitivity and a very easy load so ideal for low power valve amps.
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Nov 17, 2008 15:16:59 GMT
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They look an interesting project as much as I like to design speakers and just about understand it, I always end up just making the biggest box I can get away with and calling it a day. I did once make a ported box for my old 15" sub in the back of my old Saxo (lolz, I knowz!) but I'm not really sure why I bothered - It was far too loud and peaky for what I wanted, so I ended up just blocking the ports with wadding. Any reason you didn't use MDF to make them? Am I right in assuming the design is very sensitive to the parameters of the drivers? I've got a set of Richer Sounds era TDL floorstanders I'm looking towards re-casing into something a bit less tall, but I'll never be able to get the thiele-small data on the drivers.
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Last Edit: Nov 17, 2008 15:26:27 GMT by cobblers
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Nov 17, 2008 17:10:03 GMT
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Yeah, cabinets are specificaly designed for these drivers, cant just put any drivers in them. Speaker cabinets are tricky, you need to know what your doing, you need to know all the specifications for the drivers and know how to in interpret it all. I certainly don't. If you just build a box and chuck the drivers in you'll get all sorts of dips and peaks in the frequency response and impendance will be all over the place. Its just not that simple. If anyone wants to build any speakers i can point you at a couple of sites with box plans for specific drivers. Maily full range drivers so no crossovers to worry about
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Nov 19, 2008 16:06:43 GMT
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speaking about speakers i stumbled upon this... i like the idea, but would it actually sound good?
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Nov 19, 2008 16:47:41 GMT
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The midrange and treble would probably be excellent - but there'd be no bass whatsoever. They are probably satellites with a sub hidden in a corner somewhere.
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Nov 19, 2008 18:47:55 GMT
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I assume thats an open baffle.
if so, then as said, with that set up bass will be poor.
Open baffles will do bass but they need to be bigger than that, wider too. They should also have 'wings' (in the ahhhhh bodyfooooorm way rather than the red bull way).
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Nov 25, 2008 19:29:17 GMT
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Not 70's but for those interested in speakers, check this bad boy out... We use these at work for acoustic testing. I have always wanted two of them in my living room. I am sure they would not be the best for music, but they can deal with 300w RMS and are designed to give totaly neutral and consistant output from 30Hz to 20KHz! Cost about £1500 a pop though
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