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Jun 22, 2005 11:41:15 GMT
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Did anybody see the news last night? Aparanetly they want to do congestion charging on people who use the trains! Last year they were saying how they all wanted us to stop using our cars (want to price us out of our cars!) and use public transport. Now they want to price us of public transport ...how are we supposed to get to work...wheres the logic!
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Jun 22, 2005 11:48:17 GMT
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Did anybody see the news last night? Aparanetly they want to do congestion charging on people who use the trains! Last year they were saying how they all wanted us to stop using our cars (want to price us out of our cars!) and use public transport. Now they want to price us of public transport ...how are we supposed to get to work...wheres the logic! Teleportation is the way forward - has this been patented yet? It's funny - I used to travel 4 hours a day on the train to get to and from work and the service was wibblepoo. Unless the service improves something like 1000% no-one will pay this charge and just start using the car again. I might buy one of these and fly to work......
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I like long walks, especially when they're taken by people I don't like.
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Jun 22, 2005 11:48:52 GMT
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here it is: www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,1511049,00.html amazing. I'm afraid I lay the blame for this squarely at the door of the Tories and their lazy, half-arsed privatisation.
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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Jun 22, 2005 13:19:32 GMT
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I thought we already paid a congesyion charge on the trains...?
That's why I get stung for a "bargainous" £91.20 a week to travel peak time, and its half that after 9.30 am??? (or free if you're a chav)
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Jun 22, 2005 14:01:42 GMT
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Fugg me! Now that’s what I call a congestion charge. Absolutely disgraceful.
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1972 Fiat 130 1985 Talbot Alpine 1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 + 1986 Mazda 929 Koop + Wagon 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 BEST CAR EVER!!!!!!!! 1979 Datsun B310 Sunny 4-dr 1984 Audi 200 Quattro Turbo 1983 Honda Accord 1.6 DX GONE1989 Alfa 75 2.0 TS Mr T says: TREAT YO MOTHER RIGHT!
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Jun 22, 2005 14:05:29 GMT
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i nearly kicked my TV when i saw this on the news last night.
So they don't want us to drive our nasty cars, because they fill up our roads and wear them out and since they spent all our road tax money on anti-smoking adverts (i don't smoke! and if i did it'd be my choice! deal with it!) there's no cash to repair them.
so the obvious choice, if you're a government, is to price road use out of the equation - £5 per mile per tyre, multiplied by the age of your car (to get the 'classic' guys angry), doubled if you have any mods (to annoy the neds), trebelled if you have more than two toes (just to get a bit more cash)
so that leaves walking, or public transport.
We'd use the trains if they were a) on time b) reasonably priced and c) actually went somewhere useful. the timing is down to the fact it's all privatised, and the last new batch of trains were built in 1620, so they break down a fair bit. the destinations is equally down to the train companies, although the govermnents wonderful act of closing down huge amounts of rural stations no doubt helps.
so the price..... i'm going to london next week for a day out. mid-week, not travelling peak times. £145 for three adults and a child. WHAT? I can BUY a car, fill it with petrol, not register it, drive it into the congestion zone, leave it burning on a street corner and still have change from £145. but it gets better, if i wanted to use the train on a regular basis - for example to GET TO WORK AND PAY MY TAXES then i'd have to travle peak times, and pay peak prices, which THEY WANT TO PUT UP HIGHER.
there'll be a congestion charge for walking next. cos we're clogging up the pavements. and then there'll be a callout fee for when we all get mugged cos we can't get home from the office without walking through a crack house.
there's three words i can think of to describe the people who thought this up... the middle one is "robbing" but i doubt the other two will make it through the swear filter.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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Jun 22, 2005 14:11:24 GMT
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Pillock
That is brilliant, superbly said, Just about sums up the hole farce of it all.
I'm gona print your reply off and show my friends, they will love what you've said.
Well done
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Jun 22, 2005 14:13:56 GMT
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It's disgraceful. But what is MORE disgraceful is that I strongly suspect they're doing what they ALWAYS do, and that is get us all riled about this and sneak something else in whilst we're all distracted. £1 for a litre of petrol or something. Or another war. Or something else...
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Jun 22, 2005 14:20:45 GMT
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Yep thats what has always happened, when ever theres a big 'so-called' news scoop in the papers and on telly it makes you wonder whats really passing through.
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Kris
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Jun 22, 2005 15:23:27 GMT
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Where's Rev when you need him?
Time for a revolution!!
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Jun 22, 2005 15:30:19 GMT
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Where's Rev when you need him? Probably already marching to Downing Street ;D
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Jun 22, 2005 15:38:51 GMT
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The UK has spent £240 million on the war with Iraq - imagine how many new trains / train lines that could have bought!
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I like long walks, especially when they're taken by people I don't like.
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Jun 22, 2005 15:50:41 GMT
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it was a bit of a rant wasn't it? i just get all worked up when we're told to do one thing, then the price of doing it gets whacked up. they tell us it's so we stagger journeys to avoid peak times - curse word, how many of us work flexi-time who can actually do that? it's a tax, we're being herded into a pen then made to sign on the dotted line. it's like a tax on having lungs, travelling by one means or another is unavoidable! and i don't doubt for a minute this will get dropped due to 'public outcry' - meanwhile whatever it is they're trying to bury or sneak through disappears into the haze and we're none the wiser.
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Never trust a man Who names himself Trevor. Or one day you might find He's not a real drug dealer.
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HytestA
Part of things
Cant beat a good bit of rubbing :D
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Jun 22, 2005 16:06:31 GMT
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Seeing this type of curse word make me realise why Mr_Bollox moved to france, I can see a rebellion happening if this continues. Normal people aint going to take this curse word all the time. I live near London and commute daily, I don't mind getting the train and walking 20/30 mins to my place of work, I don't object to the congestion charge as it stands... but to put that up to 8 quid and consider the option of expanding it even more I do object to. As NickB said we already pay more during the rush hours for train journeys, and they have just given us lovely new trains... nice... modern... might be cool in Summer, but I'm personally avoiding them if I can due to the clever fact that SouthEastern trains have removed half the seats to make us stand up... thanks, we pay more to be hearded about like cattle, no wait, cattle have to be transported according to EU policies that if imposed on the train companies would see the franchises paying even more in fines. Makes me wonder why I stay here sometimes
rant over
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SkoCan
Posted a lot
Quando omni flunkus, mortati
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Jun 22, 2005 19:31:43 GMT
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We have room ;D
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Jun 22, 2005 22:20:07 GMT
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This really is a load of bloody rubbish! Frankly I've had enough of the 'Labour' Party (they have a cheek to call themselves a left wing party, but that's not really relevent here so I'll save that for another rant! ), I've had enough of the Tories who were f*cking the nation before Tony got in, and I've had enough of the Lib Dems too, not for any specific transport related reason, just that they're lying curse word and they annoy me! ;D ;D There are two things that they could be doing here. One is making as much bloody profit as possible, by making sure that there's no way to avoid being ripped off. I wouldn't be surprised if Alistair Darling realised that if he really does tax us off the roads then the massive profits he gets from bleeding us dry might dry up a little, so now he plans to make sure that even if we leave the motor at home, we can still enjoy all the fun of giving Alistair the shirts off our backs, and he can still enjoy rolling around in our cash like the capitalist money-grubbing pig that he is! The other thing, is of course, that they could be getting us bouncing off the walls about this outrageous new idea, so that when they announce that they've supposedly listened to what we have to say, and instead decided to commit genocide on some other third world country, or bring in some other obscene, but slightly less obscene law, we'll all thank our blessings and sit obediantly down and give Tony & Co what they want. I say we make sure it doesn't work. In the morning, when I can be bothered, I'm going to type up various furious letters to members of government both in Scotland and around the UK as a whole, frankly I'm fed up with this government, and they're going to hear my opinion. The more people's voices are heard, the less we're going to be oppressed and treated like sh*t by these people. In some countries there would be protesting in the streets and threats of revolt if the government threatened a ridiculous and money grubbing set of transport laws like the ones we're getting, yet in Britian the majority of the people, even though none of us like the new laws, will do nothing but sit in their living rooms winging about the problem, then when the changes come into force they'll hand over everything the government demands without so much as a complaint. Why are British people so bloody subservient?!?! The sooner the British people stop considering people like me to be noisy, inconvenient trouble makers in a nation of silent, subservient rats running through straight into the traps Tony lays for us, and start standing up the lying b*stard and his greedy mates, the better for all of us!! *I've been waiting to do that all day! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D*
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"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
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greaz1989
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retro-rides best thing since sliced bread
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Jun 22, 2005 22:33:49 GMT
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i got the train to edinburgh the other day, the first hundred miles by bus, so people havin to get connectin trains missed there trains , so we pay more to get a train then the train company travels us by road , whats the point in that ?
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diffrent taste in cars than most people my age - is that a good thing........
YES!
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