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Jun 12, 2008 22:11:06 GMT
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There are these types floating about. I saw an interesting Renault short wheel base Traffic van in grey last week , in a residential area with a roofrack, and on each front corner, pointed out so as to capture what seems to me would be parked cars registration plates, was the same type of cameras you now see all over with NPR cameras. Could they be looking for untaxed cars, patroling residential streets by GPS guide, so as to crush all offenders etc ?? The roadside cameras fo rspeed detection seem to be more and more agressively placed, and also loads of mobile Traffic intersection monitoring going on. Keep in mind, I am on the road every day, and average 100miles per day in South East London.
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bryn
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Jun 12, 2008 22:14:10 GMT
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Johnny Five, come down from there immediately I jest, harsh but true times we live in. And just how do you manage 100 miles a day around SE London Grizz. My hat goes off to you
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Everywhere you go now.....stealthstylz
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Jun 12, 2008 22:16:31 GMT
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If they keep untaxed/MOT'd/insured cars off the roads then they're great in my book.
Matt
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Jun 12, 2008 22:19:47 GMT
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One of these things is going to kill me one day, given the amount of times someone's jumped on their brakes even when they're inside the limit upon spotting one, usually bunching the traffic up a treat.
Wonder how much more economical everyone would be if they drove properly and didn't have to deal with urban 'traffic control' methods...
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Jun 12, 2008 22:22:08 GMT
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They had an ANPR van round the back of Victoria station the other day, and the cars it was pulling over for whatever reason were not what you'd expect - I walked past twice and saw a new Range Rover, an E46 325Ci, and a Clio whatever number the fast ones have now (197?) pulled over...
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Jun 12, 2008 22:23:09 GMT
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Great idea. Leaving un taxed cars laid up on the road, I have no problem with. Driving them I do have a problem with. But, they should'nt be so strict about them being laid up.
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Last Edit: Jun 12, 2008 22:23:41 GMT by MetroLee
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Jun 12, 2008 22:30:06 GMT
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Wonder how much more economical everyone would be if they drove properly and didn't have to deal with urban 'traffic control' methods... That's too easy though. Something like that involves common sense* rather than a hugely expensive study and associated report *Seemingly in very short supply in all govt & council offices
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Jun 12, 2008 22:32:59 GMT
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That ype of van you see at the top there is for monitering the congestion zone and the LEZ ( Low emision Zones ), used to walk past one all the time in Islington, and the side door would be open with a guy just sitting in it monitering the screens inside. Seems to me to be not very cost effective, but I suppose if they catch enough zone dodgers it makes up for it.
The ANPR and parking enforcement ones seem to be new shape Tranny's with 4 cameras on them, one on each corner of the roof.
However i've also seen an unmarked white Sprinter with a speed camera sticking out of an open flap in the high top above the rear doors.
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Last Edit: Jun 12, 2008 22:34:15 GMT by magnumpi
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Jun 12, 2008 22:34:02 GMT
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Great idea. Leaving un taxed cars laid up on the road, I have no problem with. Driving them I do have a problem with. But, they should'nt be so strict about them being laid up. It's proving they're laid up that's the problem. Which I guess is what this is combating. Won't get caught if it don't move.
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I forgot how to retro...
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Jun 12, 2008 22:59:02 GMT
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100 miles a day in South East London!!! Jesus. I live in East Dulwich. I feel for you. It's the worst area to drive around in.
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100 miles a day in South East London!!! Jesus. I live in East Dulwich. I feel for you. It's the worst area to drive around in. Charlie Been a rep on the road 16 years, and part of the trip is in and out of the area, but it is well manageable, just all the rubberneckers and slow witted drivers who kill the fun for me. Roadworks are the worst slower though. In my previous job, granted it was a lot of open country travel, I used to do up to 750km/day some days, and the job before that one I did 168000 kilometers in 2 years. Most of which was at close to or over 160kph. Thank Feck for my radio and mobile in the car. Back on topic, I just find that keeping inside the legal parameters of roaduse is becoming a pain, as behind every bus shelter/red bus/ bush/ bend in the road, there is an enforcer watching out in case you slip up and do something stupid, even unintentionally.
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Last Edit: Jun 13, 2008 6:53:32 GMT by grizz
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Big Brother is watching everyone, so everyone is watching out for Big Brother, and no-one is watching where they are actually going. Given the already poor standards of driving in evidence daily, the last thing that is needed in the name of "road safety" is something else to distract drivers attention.
As for ANPR, I am 150% against it in all forms. NO WAY does the government have the right to track my movements.
"but it targets uninsured, untaxed cars and will help in the Fight Against Terror" they say.
WILL IT F*CK
All it does is makes life a little harder for Ordinary Joe`s like us, while scumbags continue to roll in bangers bought from auction for a few hundred quid and not registered in their own names, or in cars with cloned plates -By the way, expect numberplate theft and car cloning to rocket in the next few years- or in cars registered to false identities. We keep our cars legal, because we are generally law-abiding and don't want to cross the line as we have a lot to loose, but barry the chav or abdul the terrorist (nothing like a stereotype eh?!) has nothing to loose so carries on flouting the law without fear, because he knows the chances of actually being caught are laughably small and even if he is caught, he is looking at a slap on the wrist, a £50 fine to be payed in 10 installements and maybe 20 minutes community service.
FARCE.
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Jun 13, 2008 11:13:21 GMT
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NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I thought I recognised that parade of shops - I bought my garage locks in that lock shop! I'm literally two minutes away from there if you fancy a cuppa and a poke around my toys next time you're about Grizz
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Jun 13, 2008 11:28:13 GMT
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personally i don't see the big deal. stop speeding and you won't get a fine, it is illegal afterall. i suspect most, if not all members on here never drive a car illegally. and would be quite annoyed if an illegal car was to run into you. what they are doing is trying to reduce the number of drivers doing so illegally. how is this such a bad thing. If you don't want to go into the back of people who brake suddenly, then don't tailgate. not such a big sacrifice is it really.
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misteralz
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I may drive a Volkswagen, but I'm scene tax exempt!
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Jun 13, 2008 11:48:32 GMT
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That's the sort of pious nonsense I'd never have expected to hear on here.
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Jun 13, 2008 11:53:07 GMT
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That's the sort of pious nonsense I'd never have expected to hear on here. what is? I find it a bit weird that retro-rides is expected to have a hive-mind!
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Jun 13, 2008 11:57:00 GMT
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That's the sort of pious nonsense I'd never have expected to hear on here. Really? Makes perfect sense to me! I'll never be afraid/wary of ANPR, since my cars are always taxed, insured and MOT'd when on the road. I sometimes may creep over the speed limit, but if I get caught by a speed camera, I can only hold up my hands and admit I was breaking the law. It DOES bug me when folks panic break when they see speed cameras though.
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misteralz
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Jun 13, 2008 12:05:19 GMT
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Really? I'm completely not in favour of computer-based policing, for exactly the reasons outlined in Scary's thread of a few days back. Speed cameras do cause folk to panic brake, it's almost a reflex reaction in every driver I know, no different to breathing, swallowing or flinching or blocking when someone tries to punch you. It does seem these days that there's too much emphasis on catching the slightest traffic offence and fining accordingly, and as long as that continues, the more folk will be looking out for cameras than they will for actual hazards.
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Jun 13, 2008 13:22:48 GMT
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agreed ^
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Jun 13, 2008 13:39:28 GMT
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Really? I'm completely not in favour of computer-based policing, for exactly the reasons outlined in Scary's thread of a few days back. Speed cameras do cause folk to panic brake, it's almost a reflex reaction in every driver I know, no different to breathing, swallowing or flinching or blocking when someone tries to punch you. It does seem these days that there's too much emphasis on catching the slightest traffic offence and fining accordingly, and as long as that continues, the more folk will be looking out for cameras than they will for actual hazards. Disagree, I like the ANPR system - the more that is done to get uninsured drivers off the road the better. And I don't panic break when I see a camera. I do worry mildly that there is an over reliance on electronic enforcement rather than proper traffic cops though.
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I will get round to finishing it at some point
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