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Some of the cheap universal ones seem ok, but they are really what you'd expect for a tenner.....
I've fitted them for my mate on a couple of Morris Minors, but he never keeps a car more than a tank of fuel!
I'd fit one for now and source something from a breakers at leisure
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ChrisT
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Are you looking at just getting a universal pump or a completely new washer bottle and pump?
I've used universal pumps now problem but they don't always fit the old reservoir so you need to run some right sized pipe from new pump to hole in old bottle and depending on the wiring you might need to replace the connectors.
Also used an ebay universal bottle/pump recently and they come with everything you need - may be just as easy replacing the whole lot.....
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Happy to replace the whole thing. Guess mounting it is the only complication then. Although it looks like I could end up having to solve connecting a new pump to the old reservoir.
I will head to eBay to see what I can find.
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Colonelk
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try reversing the connections on the pump and giving it a bump. Sometimes frees them up.
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Do this! Pump should be fine, you don't need anything fancy, just something to move some fluid!
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Do this! Pump should be fine, you don't need anything fancy, just something to move some fluid! Went 100% ghetto with a squeezey water bottle. I can look at the electrics better at the weekend.
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Aug 11, 2017 16:15:19 GMT
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Well ... balls.
Apparently they don't like the horn on a switch on the dashboard, even though the same place passed that last year and it has been passed like that for the two years before if not longer.
They also didn't like the washer in a bottle because "if you have an accident and it was because you were using the washer bottle like that we'd be liable" which is some hot nonsense.
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zeberdee
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Aug 11, 2017 16:37:43 GMT
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Well ... balls. Apparently they don't like the horn on a switch on the dashboard, even though the same place passed that last year and it has been passed like that for the two years before if not longer. They also didn't like the washer in a bottle because "if you have an accident and it was because you were using the washer bottle like that we'd be liable" which is some hot nonsense. Horn on the dash is fine . Just label it as such . Not sure 'being in an accident , leaving us liable' is in the reasons for rejection list
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Aug 11, 2017 17:09:09 GMT
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Horn on the dash is fine . Just label it as such . Not sure 'being in an accident , leaving us liable' is in the reasons for rejection list Horn was labeled,their reasoning was that it has to be in the circle of the steering wheel. Yeah it is nonsense. It won't be going back there.
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zeberdee
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Aug 11, 2017 17:17:39 GMT
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That's wrong & it gives 'proper' mot testers a bad name . We have a guide to follow , that everyone can see , that lists how things are tested & what would fail .
We see alot of cars that have failed for no real reason .
Do you have a local council mot station near you ?? A bit more expensive , but totally unbiased .
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Aug 11, 2017 17:19:14 GMT
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That's wrong & it gives 'proper' mot testers a bad name . We have a guide to follow , that everyone can see , that lists how things are tested & what would fail . We see alot of cars that have failed for no real reason . Do you have a local council mot station near you ?? A bit more expensive , but totally unbiased . I'll go to the garage round the corner that did my Volvo C30 last week when the place the Datsun was at couldn't MOT it because it was "too low to get on their rollers" so they couldn't do a brake test............ should have known then really, but there we go.
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scimjim
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Aug 11, 2017 17:19:36 GMT
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I'd be demanding my money back and reporting them to DVSA?
Audible warning (horn) RfR:
1. The horn control missing, insecure or not readily accessible to the driver. Note: Inform the driver if the horn is insecure. 2. The horn: a. inoperative b. is not loud enough to be heard by another road user c. is a gong, bell or siren d. has more than one tone Note: When operated, a two or more tone horn automatically produces a sound which alternates at regular intervals between fixed notes. e.fitted to a vehicle first used on or after 1 August 1973, emits a sound which is: not a continuous or uniform note  harsh or grating.
Wipers and washers RfR:
1a. A wiper or washer control missing or inaccessible to the driver b. a wiper does not continue to operate automatically when switched on c. a wiper installed for the use of the driver does not operate over an area of the windscreen large enough to give the driver an adequate view of the road (through the windscreen) to the left and right sides of the vehicle, as well as to the front. 2. A wiper blade insecure, missing, or in such a condition that it does not clear the windscreen effectively to give the driver an adequate view of the road (through the windscreen) to the left and right sides of the vehicle, as well as to the front. 3. The windscreen washers do not provide enough liquid to clear the windscreen in conjunction with the wiper(s).
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Last Edit: Aug 11, 2017 17:20:01 GMT by scimjim
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Aug 11, 2017 17:21:56 GMT
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1. The horn control missing, insecure or not readily accessible to the driver. 1a. A wiper or washer control missing or inaccessible to the driver Reckon they will just say it failed because they are "inaccessible to the driver" ... which is nonsense on both counts, washer bottle is next to the gear leaver. The horn switch is on the dash where the switch for the lights that used to live in the grill lived.
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Paul Y
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For the horn what about using a foot operated dimmer switch? Or just find a better MOT station. P.
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Aug 12, 2017 14:55:00 GMT
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For the horn what about using a foot operated dimmer switch? Or just find a better MOT station. I'm going to try (again) to get it running off the proper horn button on the dash. Not sure why it isn't working to be honest. Hopefully I can use the fad electronical guides to work it out a bit better. Same with the washer. Pressure is off to get it up and running asap now, but I do want to use it! Was going to use the place where I get it MOT'd to do the machining on the rear wheels (need the centers bored out) but I don't think I will now.
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fad
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For the horn what about using a foot operated dimmer switch? Or just find a better MOT station. I'm going to try (again) to get it running off the proper horn button on the dash. Not sure why it isn't working to be honest. Hopefully I can use the fad electronical guides to work it out a bit better. Same with the washer. Pressure is off to get it up and running asap now, but I do want to use it! Was going to use the place where I get it MOT'd to do the machining on the rear wheels (need the centers bored out) but I don't think I will now. Reading back to find the issue with the horn. Might make a good case study for that thread (been in holiday and largely banned from the internet as I can't resist working). I've no idea what you should have for a horn, is there a button in the steering wheel that should be w horn? In either case neither are valid reason for a fail, and require contesting. Certainly no more an issue than a horn on the end of the indicator stalk (moggy minor for example). Washers are just a means of getting fluid to the windscreen, and your method is no different to the factory fitted manual pumps (again, moggy minor).
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Last Edit: Aug 14, 2017 6:29:01 GMT by fad
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ChasR
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Sept 11, 2017 0:19:44 GMT
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These tales are all too familiar with a few of us. However it is great to see that you are keeping the faith and going on. The end result will be worth it .
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I'm bumping this for my own post SEMA motivation.
Going to have another go at wiring up the horn and the washer. If not it'll go to another MOT place on Friday, and then (with an MOT hopefully) somewhere more competent that can do wiring (and they can put the fan switch in place too then).
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Jan 29, 2018 10:34:14 GMT
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Yeah I failed to do that.... so I'm sticking this here to inspire me to get to it!
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Jan 29, 2018 20:22:59 GMT
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This is interesting.... did you take him to Gurston in the end...?
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