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If it's the steering arm the RCA's will sort that too as it effectively returns everything below the strut back down nearer its original locations.
If I can find my old laptop I have a design I drew out that would mean you could get the spacers made up and would just need to source the correct grade bolts.
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Aug 12, 2016 19:05:36 GMT
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Slight change of pace (as I need to still pit together the other suspension video). I've needed to replace the valve cover gasket for ages, it arrived yesterday, so then I did this.  Then I did the bolts up and ended up with this  That's right I managed to sheer two of the front bolts doing a simple job :/ So now I have 2 questions How badly could I mess things up if I drive this now? And When I get the new bolts how can I get the ends of the sheered bolts out. Two weeks to the gathering ... :/ |
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Aug 12, 2016 19:10:36 GMT
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I guess you would just lose a bit of oil maybe . And to get it a screw extractor kit . Plenty of vids on youtube.
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Davey
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Aug 12, 2016 20:32:46 GMT
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as said your just going to loose oil. With the two you have missing it may only be a small leak honestly. Getting them out shouldn't be too bad. If you can weld a nut to them then great, if not usually drilling a smaller hole down the centre of the snapped stud then using the extractor tends to work. But be so careful not to snap the extractor they are brittle and hardened to hell and back so are almost impossible to drill out!
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Aug 12, 2016 21:07:59 GMT
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they'll drill out, at worst oversize to M7 or M8 thread, chillax!
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Aug 12, 2016 21:16:29 GMT
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Thanks folks, I'll get an extractor set tomorrow. Will find some replacements, and get it sorted. At least I can drive it  |
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820
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Might be worth getting yourself a torque wrench, there will be a tightening sequence for that cover and the bolts wont need to be very tight.
Be careful how you go about removing the broken bolts, it will be easy to make things worse, if part of the broken bolt is proud of the head face you might simply be able to unwind it with pliers with the cover removed as they are not seized but just over-tightened.
(added) I would recommend, if it has them, replacing the rubber gaskets under the washers, these go hard with age and leak, as well as not clamping the cover down onto the gasket.
Hope the broken bolts come out easily
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Last Edit: Aug 13, 2016 10:33:54 GMT by 820
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mexicansteve
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Aug 13, 2016 10:46:18 GMT
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That's right I managed to sheer two of the front bolts doing a simple job :/ That sucks. I'm sure it'll work out. Gotta get that Datsun on the road, it's a lonely world out there in a Datsun, we need to be out driving to make up the numbers |
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Aug 13, 2016 12:01:06 GMT
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That's right I managed to sheer two of the front bolts doing a simple job :/ That sucks. I'm sure it'll work out. Gotta get that Datsun on the road, it's a lonely world out there in a Datsun, we need to be out driving to make up the numbers Fear not, it is out and about. Went shopping today (for a screw extractor kit). Will be heading to a friends wedding next week. Going to raise the suspension a touch more at the front and a bit at the rear, then give it a good clear out this afternoon.  |
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Aug 13, 2016 12:41:35 GMT
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Might be worth getting yourself a torque wrench, there will be a tightening sequence for that cover and the bolts wont need to be very tight. I've got one, annoyingly the guide I was following didn't mention the tightness or lack thereof for the bolts, so I messed up. I did it all in the right order though Will attempt the screw extraction later this afternoon. If I balls it up I guess I'm going to go and get a tap and die set?  |
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Aug 13, 2016 12:50:06 GMT
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1to3 newton meters the torque for the rocker cover (for the 1.8 det mota)
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Aug 13, 2016 13:24:38 GMT
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Or by hand barely nipped up .
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luckyseven
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Aug 13, 2016 15:53:40 GMT
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Be bloody careful if you're using one of those wind-in stud extractors that are a bit like a really rough tap. If you snap it off in the stud (and it's super-easy to do as they're case-hardened to extremely hard but rather brittle) by winding it in slightly on the wonk or bending it... then you're in a world of hurt as they're soooooo hard it'll be impossible to drill the snapped end out and the drill will go off on its own and muller the head. Be really careful drilling a pilot anyway because the stud is no doubt steel and the head is no doubt ally so one will give up the fight a lot easier than the other and it's easy to drill skewed or off-centre. And then the extractor will snap
Much better if you have enough of the bolt left protruding to get one of the self-tightening roller type extractors on it (they're a bit like a tiny oil filter wrench in a socket).
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Last Edit: Aug 13, 2016 15:54:09 GMT by luckyseven
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Aug 13, 2016 16:57:10 GMT
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Snapped off down in the thread sadly, no other option I can see at the moment.
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Aug 13, 2016 16:58:47 GMT
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Have got got a centre punch , or failing that a small piece of bar with a point. Whack a dot into the centre of the bit to be drilled out so the drill stays put in the middle .
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Aug 13, 2016 18:05:58 GMT
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Lots of good advice on stud extraction. My little contribution would be to drill the stud out and re tap for a larger bolt. Every time I have used a stud extractor I have ended up throwing away whatever the stud was broken in.... Looks tough in the pictures, me likey. P. |
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Aug 13, 2016 19:15:29 GMT
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Having tried most of the stud extractors, I would just have a go at centre punch and a speed out extractor. These are pretty good as (in my experience) they don't snap they just churn up the end of the stud. Then if that fails just drill it out and clean the thread or step up a size.
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Aug 13, 2016 19:25:07 GMT
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Excellent, well it sounds like exactly the sort of job I can mess up, so I may wait until after The Gathering to tackle it.. the cover seems to be on and sealed as it is, went out for a drive and no random oil anywhere. In other news another slight raise in the suspension and there is no clunking now. Will have a look at the whole RCA thing when I'm back from The Gathering to get it properly low. Fingers crossed the new wheels will arrive this week, need to work out the tyres, but I've got that planned I think. Still got a loooooong list of things to do, hoping I can put this damn suspension to bed, and stop making more jobs for myself every time I attempt anything on the car! |
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Aug 13, 2016 19:41:33 GMT
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Well at least you have a few new bits for the tool kit !
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qwerty
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Aug 14, 2016 19:46:31 GMT
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Can you not copy the whole suspension setup from the Racers in Japan? They seem to run a lot lower presumably without as many issues?
Good to see it being used though! Bet you're happy to be out and about in it?
Tom
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