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Aug 21, 2014 22:37:21 GMT
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Been faffing about a bit with this Rover today, it runs really nice now, I'm super chuffed with that. pretty tidy eh? the LH front wing needs polished up as the paint finish on it is not amazing, and the interior needs a good clean out. The rest of it is quite mint!!!! Its even got a working original CD player with code. I paid £125 for this car off the bay, if I hadnt ended up doing the cylinder head twice it might seem like a bargain!!! Ah well. Also check the Argenta in the background - thats still in the fleet, will update on that soon.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Aug 21, 2014 22:42:22 GMT
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You could do it as a mini side-business.. get HG K-series bangers for cheap, do the head gasket and remove the stupid saab valve pipe blocker (I bet you're getting quick at head removal now!) and sell it on. Yes it costs money, but if you don't count your labour, a 100 quid banger, 50 quid worth of parts and sell it on for 300, you've made some dosh for your troubles.
Then you won't feel compelled to hold on to them, and can spend the "profits" fixing up the maserati or something a little more interesting.
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iant
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Thanks for the updates Mr B!
Love your work!
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Aug 22, 2014 22:42:34 GMT
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Good to see you back sir! Might be joining you again in Derby if negotiations continue apace - maybe..
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Lots of Alfas and, errrr, a Marina Coupe...
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Rich
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Indeed is it definite good to see you back, have been missing the updates.
When you do the head gaskets on the rovers, do you remove the ball bearing from the inlet manifold stub? It's the single biggest 'trade secret' K series lifesaver I've found yet. All the ball bearing does is trap air in the cylinder head while the engine is running, removing it causes it to run a teensy bit cooler but allows a constant circulation of the head preventing airlock. They are also pretty much self bleeding cooling systems with it removed as well! Thought I'd share it with you seeing as you've ended up with a few K-powered-krappers recently.
Keep up the good work man!
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qwerty
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Aug 23, 2014 19:49:42 GMT
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Thats a tidy looking little Rover. Much more sleepery than a ZR as well!
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Sept 3, 2014 12:43:48 GMT
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Good choice with the GT. I ran one for a year (though I paid a whopping £681 (plus a trip to york) for mine. It is probably the best car I have owned.
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Jaguar S-Type 3.0 SE
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Sept 13, 2014 18:02:29 GMT
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Mr. Bol. you have a legion of petrolheads hanging on your every post..... We want more! NOW!
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Sept 13, 2014 18:59:15 GMT
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Lets give you a bit on the Argenta then So last time owt happened with this, it was spring LAST YEAR when I offered it up for long-term loan on the brown forum. A lad stepped up to the plate with the right kind of outlook and off it went to live in Coventry: To my surprise I didnt get a single phone call saying X had fallen off or Y had stopped working. Our man used it every day with no problems whatsoever. The only thing that needed tweaking was the middle box of the exhaust started to blow. I found a new one for sale on eBay for £20, which I bought and had delivered to the 'renter', he got it fitted and it was all good. Even made an appearance in Classic Car Weekly once! Came back to base in about october last year all running great and with a few bottles of Peroni on the passenger seat - Result!! I had no use for it so it just sat outside all winter (not great) then this spring I decided to get the MOT sorted and give it the once over. To my surprise it passed the MOT first time with no repairs needed!!! But I knew there were a few jobs needed doing. 1) new timing belt & oil leak problems. I had replaced the timing belt when i first got this car, but not the tensioner. Thought I'd better do it properly this time. Got a belt off ebay for a tenner and a new tensioner off Amazon for £25 or so. I could not get the crank pulley nut undone. fannied on for ages but I could not do it! Eventually I realised that you could get the belt off without removing the pulley, which reminded me that thats what i did last time. Good memory skills There was also an oil leak from the RH cam box. to fix that I bought a head gasket set off ebay for £15. Quite a lot of dismantling to get that lot to bits. cleaned everything up and fited the new gaskets which was fairly straightforward. Shiny new bits!! The other problem was a load of racket from the exhaust. I'd fixed this once before by welding the downpipe, but it had obviously fractured again where the pipe is welded into the flange of the front pipe. Took it off: Welded it up properly and refitted everything. With that lot done it fired up and ran an absolute treat, sounded as well as it has ever done in my custodianship. Needed doing as the tensioner was very grumbly. Great!!! Next issue was those grey trims again, they had gone back to white despite my previous efforts. I tracked down a tube of this supposed 'dogs bo11ox' Wuerth bumper dye through a friend who lives in germany. Took a while but eventually i found that a combination of sanding the trims with wet 240 grit W&D (which removed a white chalky layer off the top pf the plastic) then a treatment with this stuff worked as well as anything else i'd tried. I think really it would need several applications of this stuff to get the colour back into them, they're really bad. With that lot done it was running really well and looking smart, althoguh it has (unsurprisingly) visbly deteriorated since i got it back from France a few years back. Since then its sat about a lot and I have done nowt with it, so the other day I gave it a wash and once-over: And slightly reluctantly put it up for sale!!!! I really could do with rehoming it as it should not sit outside for another winter. www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C538195I'm not gasping to sell it, but hopefully a sympathetic new custodian can be found.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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tigran
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In rust we trust. Amen.
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Sept 13, 2014 19:08:10 GMT
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That is such a cool oddity.
A bit too out there for me on the daily front. But best of luck with the sale - you've injected a good lot of life into that old thing.
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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Sept 13, 2014 19:13:21 GMT
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Ask and thee shall receive....
I think we've witnessed a minor miracle here. A 30yr old Fiat that didnt dissolve in a single winter! I'm guessing the God of waxoyl has smiled on you?!
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Sept 13, 2014 19:23:37 GMT
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Does it not sum up the Italian car industry that the Fiat Argenta survived with fading side mouldings and yet, the slightly newer? Masertatti needs more welding than the titanic? There is no justice in the world!
Cool car though. And I remember these when they were new. And they were mostly rusty then!
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Sept 13, 2014 20:33:10 GMT
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In one way its a great daily. Its actually pretty fast, fun to drive with an excellent driving position and good visibility. Fuel consumption is not crippling - upper 20's, might get 30 on a long journey. And it eventually became mega reliable after a lot of faffing with the fuel system, I drove it 80 miles/day to work without any trouble. But its just so fragile on the body and trim, you just know that any parts which get knackered, switchgear, lights, trim etc will be right carry-on to replace and might put it off the road for a while while you scour Pastabay etc for replacements. But if you are in the right frame of mind thats not necessarily a problem.
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Last Edit: Sept 14, 2014 15:19:56 GMT by xbo11ox
1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Sept 13, 2014 20:50:35 GMT
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Wasn't the Argenta the "flagship" top of the range Fiat back in the early 80's? I remember seeing a quite a few Mirafioris (sp) and very, very few of these. And never have I heard of an Italian motor with a decent driving position, but then I've never driven one! I think it's cool, not Bi-Turbo cool, but cool nonetheless. One for clever enthusiasts I think.... and the world is all the richer for it being preserved.
At the risk of mentioning the unmentioned, whats the latest on the Maser? Mate of mine has a 90's Ghibli - everything about the car is epic, but you just feel that you're looking at a ticking bomb!
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Sept 13, 2014 21:05:56 GMT
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It was the top of the range Fiat, but I think even fiat at the time was well aware of what a half-arsed 'refresh' it was of an old design!!! don't think they were terribly proud of it.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Sept 13, 2014 21:12:50 GMT
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I'm 99.9% I've got the 1982 Daily Mail Motor Show Guide somewhere in my attic. I'll dig it out tomorrow. The Argenta would've been pitched against the Granada / Senator? whereas the Mirafori would've been more a Cortina equivalent?
Still it was an unusual car in '82, there really can't be many left!
If only they could talk eh? I'll bet there's an interesting back-story with it being so well preserved.
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stevietuck
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Never argue with idiots,they drag you down to their level then beat you with their expertise!
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Sept 14, 2014 11:19:57 GMT
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Excuse my ignorance mr boll, but what is the brown forum? cheers steve.
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Sept 14, 2014 17:37:47 GMT
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Whose Ford Puma is it it then?
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Sept 14, 2014 17:53:47 GMT
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my garage marra had a Puma, but he's weighed it in now!!! Mainly due to it being rusty and $hite.
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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Rob M
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Sept 14, 2014 17:58:14 GMT
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Excuse my ignorance mr boll, but what is the brown forum? cheers steve. Autosh*te. Its hard to believe that Fiat could still be churning out self dissolving cars as late as the 80s having learned absolutely nothing whatsoever from the Alfasud/Lancia debacle. Always loved Fiats for the sound their engines made, even my dads old 64 Fiat 850 ( back in 1975) sounded all growly. In the good old days you could tell your Fiats from your Vivas just by hearing the engine. Now most look and sound the same. That Fiat is worth the money all day long Mr B,you legend.
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