adam73bgt
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Mar 17, 2023 15:44:03 GMT |
See that's not as low as I had pictured in mind from reading the description previously  Tyres look pretty well sized for the car from that picture, what brand/model are they and how old? As mentioned already, I'd be checking the alignment is remotely correct, and given some of the previous MOT fails, if they've not been rectified since, probably worth checking the suspension is actually attached to the car!
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Mar 17, 2023 15:46:10 GMT |
She will be going for an MOT Soon, the majority of those are no longer applicable to the car as i’ve said we’ve been worked throught the car well. The only thing it would fail on now is a Gearbox Leak on the rear main seal, probably the rear arches and exhaust emissions
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Mar 17, 2023 15:50:07 GMT |
See that's not as low as I had pictured in mind from reading the description previously  Tyres look pretty well sized for the car from that picture, what brand/model are they and how old? As mentioned already, I'd be checking the alignment is remotely correct, and given some of the previous MOT fails, if they've not been rectified since, probably worth checking the suspension is actually attached to the car! The Tyres are BF Goodrich Radial’s on the rear and some brand called Cerat Spider? On the Front. They are tucked in the arch well. I think the alignment is the best option
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Mar 17, 2023 16:22:49 GMT |
See that's not as low as I had pictured in mind from reading the description previously  Tyres look pretty well sized for the car from that picture, what brand/model are they and how old? As mentioned already, I'd be checking the alignment is remotely correct, and given some of the previous MOT fails, if they've not been rectified since, probably worth checking the suspension is actually attached to the car! I thought the same. The wheel and tyre sizes are standard, so shouldn't be the problem, although tyre quality and condition might be. Inspecting how the car was lowered would be my first step. I mentioned before that cut or heated springs could easily cause the fault. As could badly worn bushes in the rear suspension arms as anyone who has driven a Cortina, Dolomite, Avenger, Mustang or anything else with a Satchell link suspension will attest to! The car is basically the same as an Opel Manta, so decent components shouldn't be too hard to find.
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Mar 17, 2023 17:03:45 GMT |
Exactly like i said, i’m going through it bit by bit, think of it as a rolling restoration. I do use it almost every weekend, the car brings alot of joy to me and to know there’s only a handful left i feel an immense pride in owning one, it’s just ironing out other peoples bodges and mistakes some easy some not but at the same time providing me with plenty of mechanical knowledge. I know [email protected]/ not perfect but i’ll invest my time and money into it. I’ve only owned it since August 2022 and i’d have a good guess and say i’m probably one of the only few owners that really did care for it. I’m working from Inside out, even down to me changing a full length of speaker wire just for the sake of it, i’m trialing new things and at the same time finding more about the car. The end goal is of course an MOT but until i’m 100% satisfied with my work it won’t go for one. The advisories from 2020 are a clean example of the lack of care as such. I mean jheez it spent 1 year of it’s life on a driveway and only moved 100 miles. I did 150 on it’s first day as we drove it home.
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mk2cossie
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Mar 17, 2023 18:51:20 GMT |
First thing I'd be doing, is checking that the tyre pressures are about right (24 or 26psi from memory) and that the tyres fitted are not commercial tyres  After that, mot type check over to make sure all is in order, and get the wheel alignment checked. As said above, the wheel judder will not be caused by tracking. More than likely a wheel out of balance
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Mar 17, 2023 19:08:03 GMT |
if you aren't happy it would pass an mot I wouldn't let it off the driveway tbh.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:14:10 GMT |
if you aren't happy it would pass an mot I wouldn't let it off the driveway tbh. I’m confident it would pass but with Advisories i’m already aware of, i’d just like a Green sheet pass. My dads a mechanic and knows plenty of testers who’d check over it and let me know if it’s passable or not.
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Mar 17, 2023 19:14:36 GMT |
First thing I'd be doing, is checking that the tyre pressures are about right (24 or 26psi from memory) and that the tyres fitted are not commercial tyres  After that, mot type check over to make sure all is in order, and get the wheel alignment checked. As said above, the wheel judder will not be caused by tracking. More than likely a wheel out of balance That helps! I’ve been putting 32 in them which is probably not ideal.
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"As could badly worn bushes in the rear suspension arms as anyone who has driven a Cortina, Dolomite, Avenger, Mustang or anything else with a Satchell link suspension will attest to!"
Non of these are Satchel links.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Mar 18, 2023 12:17:44 GMT |
First thing I'd be doing, is checking that the tyre pressures are about right (24 or 26psi from memory) and that the tyres fitted are not commercial tyres  After that, mot type check over to make sure all is in order, and get the wheel alignment checked. As said above, the wheel judder will not be caused by tracking. More than likely a wheel out of balance Well after dropping them to 26 both Front and Rear i can’t begin to explain how much a difference it makes, i feel the car can be pushed harder and feels more in contact with the road, it’s also immensely more comfortable, but that doesn’t hide the fact i have an imbalance.
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slater
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Mar 18, 2023 16:21:23 GMT |
It doesn't need an MOT. Just fix what's wrong with it and be happy.
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Mar 18, 2023 18:19:58 GMT |
It doesn't need an MOT. Just fix what's wrong with it and be happy. I 100% agree with this, i’m a trainee Veh Mech and my dad has been one for 35 Years and even had a Cavalier. I understand the rule of MOT Exemptions gives a responsibility to the Owner to maintain it and that some probably don’t just because it’s exempt. I’ve only owned it since Aug 2022 and its history is rough in areas but it’s not like that anymore, i’ve worked hard and put a lot of money into it already and i still love the thing. I respect criticism but find it rather weird when people are spying on its mot history to then come back at me as though it’s my problem haha
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Mar 18, 2023 21:59:17 GMT |
I would still recommended spending £50 on an MOT, just to have an independent mechanic look it over. I will be doing this when my Elan is finished. Everything that is suspension, steering, transmission and electrical is new but there is no harm in having someone else giving it a once over.
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slater
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It doesn't need an MOT. Just fix what's wrong with it and be happy. I 100% agree with this, i’m a trainee Veh Mech and my dad has been one for 35 Years and even had a Cavalier. I understand the rule of MOT Exemptions gives a responsibility to the Owner to maintain it and that some probably don’t just because it’s exempt. I’ve only owned it since Aug 2022 and its history is rough in areas but it’s not like that anymore, i’ve worked hard and put a lot of money into it already and i still love the thing. I respect criticism but find it rather weird when people are spying on its mot history to then come back at me as though it’s my problem haha Don't worry about it, theres lots of people on vehicle forums that like to 'have an opinion' whether its educated or not, theres always someone out there telling you your doing it wrong. Having an MOT makes no difference to your responsibility for having to ensure your car is maintained and road worthy. Its literally just a bureaucratic box that we're made to tick to keep mechanics in jobs. From the second you leave the testing station its back to being 100% your responsibility. What it boils down to is, buying a car, checking it over thoroughly and fixing any dangerous faults before driving. Rolling project is fine but not if its got dangerous faults. (and i don't mean MOT dangerous faults, some of which arnt actually dangerous, i mean real dangerous faults) If you cant do that yourself then pay a man to do it sure but don't take it for an MOT and think thats a done deal as MOT testers are even allowed to check properly for many dangerous faults and many only care if its going to get them a job at the end of it! As for the wheels id imagine it feels curse word because the big balloon tyres they fitted to cars in the 70s just make them feel like you are driving a bowl of jelly.. It helps firm up the ride if you fit slightly stretched tyres or even better lower profile but obviously lower profile comes with other issues such as gear ratios etc. Deffo make sure they are all pointing in the right direction too tho of course!
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goldnrust
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Mar 19, 2023 10:13:14 GMT |
There’s lots of sensible thoughts in this thread, I don’t want to repeat lots of things that have already been said, but there are a couple of things I think are worth saying.
Firstly, tyres. If this is a car you like and see yourself keeping, get a fresh matching set.
I’ve owned cars with old mismatched tyres (you mention different brands front to rear) and they really can be terrible when hard and old. The perfectly MOT legal tyres my Triumph Spitfire came with were so bad the car would go sideways at seemingly any speed with a good stab of throttle. I replaced them with some new budget Maxxis tyres and the transformation could not be bigger. Suddenly the engine felt like it had half the power as the car didn’t even dream of getting out of shape on the throttle.
Secondly, you say you’re young still, have you have much experience previously driving older cars? This might sound patronising, but they really don’t grip the road like new cars do. A friend of mine went from driving a modern Fiesta to a Mk1 mx5, a car renowned for its handling, and it took him some time to get used to the fact that you just don’t have the grip that a modern car has and that there’s no computers between you and the car. No electronic throttle to smooth out your right foots movements, no electronic stability control to kick in on a damp and slippery road.
I know you said your Dad had a similar car years ago, but rose tinted memories of the past are not always truthful. 20 years of driving more modern cars in between now and then, it’s easy to forget what old car can actually feel like!
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Mar 19, 2023 12:08:00 GMT |
There’s lots of sensible thoughts in this thread, I don’t want to repeat lots of things that have already been said, but there are a couple of things I think are worth saying. Firstly, tyres. If this is a car you like and see yourself keeping, get a fresh matching set. I’ve owned cars with old mismatched tyres (you mention different brands front to rear) and they really can be terrible when hard and old. The perfectly MOT legal tyres my Triumph Spitfire came with were so bad the car would go sideways at seemingly any speed with a good stab of throttle. I replaced them with some new budget Maxxis tyres and the transformation could not be bigger. Suddenly the engine felt like it had half the power as the car didn’t even dream of getting out of shape on the throttle. Secondly, you say you’re young still, have you have much experience previously driving older cars? This might sound patronising, but they really don’t grip the road like new cars do. A friend of mine went from driving a modern Fiesta to a Mk1 mx5, a car renowned for its handling, and it took him some time to get used to the fact that you just don’t have the grip that a modern car has and that there’s no computers between you and the car. No electronic throttle to smooth out your right foots movements, no electronic stability control to kick in on a damp and slippery road. I know you said your Dad had a similar car years ago, but rose tinted memories of the past are not always truthful. 20 years of driving more modern cars in between now and then, it’s easy to forget what old car can actually feel like! Agree, driving a standard Ford Anglia now is downright horrible! Steers like a boat, suspension is basic, very little soundproofing, braking can be timed with a calendar rather than a watch and as for the seats.....
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Mar 19, 2023 13:33:48 GMT |
"As could badly worn bushes in the rear suspension arms as anyone who has driven a Cortina, Dolomite, Avenger, Mustang or anything else with a Satchell link suspension will attest to!" Non of these are Satchel links.  ? Every description and diagram I've seen for a Satchell link consists of a pair of parallel arms, and another pair of angled ones that usually meet near the diff. Which is what all of those I mentioned do.
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mk2cossie
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Mar 19, 2023 13:39:09 GMT |
"As could badly worn bushes in the rear suspension arms as anyone who has driven a Cortina, Dolomite, Avenger, Mustang or anything else with a Satchell link suspension will attest to!" Non of these are Satchel links.  ? Every description and diagram I've seen for a Satchell link consists of a pair of parallel arms, and another pair of angled ones that usually meet near the diff. Which is what all of those I mentioned do. Most likely being a pedant, as the mk1 Cavalier and Opel Manta are torque tube rear axle. But they are coil sprung, and have 4 links as mentioned tho 
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Mar 19, 2023 15:10:15 GMT |
No pedantry. The Satchel link has the lower arms angled in from the axle to meet below the propshaft on the centre line. The top links are parallel. It gives a low roll centre and very gentle understeer characteristics even when pushed hard. It has good anti-squat which is tunable. As it supports the axle at the ends it takes load off the centre of the axle. One of the disadvantages is finding something to hang the lower chassis points from. It was invented by Terry Satchell. As far as I know it has not been used in a production vehicle.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-( 2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap V8 Humber Hawk 1948 Standard12 pickup 1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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