mylittletony
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1932 Ford 5W Coupe.mylittletony
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Feb 26, 2024 16:41:25 GMT
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The restriction would be from inlet/outlet size, which could well be on the small size given how much you'll want to flow. you can get cheap, new intercoolers in all manner of designs, I would have thought a small one with 3" piping wouldn't restrict too much and have some effect. If painted black it could blend in to the engine bay somewhat? I did wonder if it could go behind the rad, above the ancillaries? Would get fed with hot air though... Edit: A chargecooler would look right and could be subtly plumbed into a more discreet rad? Edit edit: in fact something like this could go on the bulkhead and has dual outputs for your carb hats late BMW charge cooler (need to check flow directions etc) |
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Feb 26, 2024 16:51:35 GMT
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The restriction would be from inlet/outlet size, which could well be on the small size given how much you'll want to flow. you can get cheap, new intercoolers in all manner of designs, I would have thought a small one with 3" piping wouldn't restrict too much and have some effect. If painted black it could blend in to the engine bay somewhat? I did wonder if it could go behind the rad, above the ancillaries? Would get fed with hot air though... If I'd use this one, I'd knock the plastic tanks off, make new ones from sheet aluminum in the sizes I'd need, and weld those on. ( in would be the same as the blower out, out would be twin feed tubes in the size to match the carb plenum/press boxes) So if the core is not likely to be the main restriction, that's good news. I wouldn't buy other/ better intercooler to do this. The fact that I have this one on the shelf is part of the attraction...  A regular feed tube would have to split from 1 to 2 as well to match the blower on one side and the press boxes on the other. Doing it with the small intercooler instead would be a cool/ elegant way of doing the split, so that is also part of the attraction. |
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Feb 26, 2024 17:06:52 GMT
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Sorry for the diversion, I just fell over this.
It's an advert for McCulloch superchargers from the 50's.
Hopefully it should start in the right place but if not it's from 4:42.
The whole video is interesting as well.
Back to intercoolers.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Feb 26, 2024 18:13:05 GMT
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To show there are no real limits to my lunacy, here is a earlier plan I had. I had this '70s Accel draw through turbo setup on my Street Freak Capri.  I kept the turbo setup when I sold the car. The engine in the Capri was a 351W Ford, so its not a straight bolt-on, on the SBC in the '32 Coupe. But it wouldn't be that hard to do. So what I was thinking was to run the boost charge from the McCulloch into the feed of the Accel turbo ( they just happen to be the same diameter), and then the turbo boost into the Weber pressure boxes. The blower would stick out on the driver side ( like it does now ), and the turbo would stick out on the pass side. So that is visually pleasing, as a symmetry kind of thing. The McCulloch doesn't produce a lot of boost with the current pulley sizes, but in series with the turbo it would be plenty ( the turbo would get a wastegate and a BOV). It would need a good Water/Methanol injection system to make the engine live ( not rattle itself to death). So all of this would basically be 10 pounds of stuff in a 5 pound bag. Cool in all its glorious excess, but way more complicated than it needs to be. So I'm not doing that ( I think... probably... ) |
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Feb 26, 2024 19:10:00 GMT
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Could you not sling the radiator element between the chassis rails with the charge cooler disguised as a large battery? Or something similar?
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Feb 26, 2024 19:48:21 GMT
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Yeah, I could.
Not sure the McCulloch by itself ( with its current pulley ratio) generates enough boost to justify that kind of effort, though.
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v8ian
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Feb 26, 2024 19:51:53 GMT
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Yeah, I could. Not sure the McCulloch by itself ( with its current pulley ratio) generates enough boost to justify that kind of effort, though. well I can see the obvious suggestion in my head, Party Pulley................. |
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style.
Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Feb 26, 2024 19:54:02 GMT
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Round intercooler masquerading as a pancake airfilter...? Well...just a daft idea.
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Feb 26, 2024 20:27:44 GMT
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Yeah, I could. Not sure the McCulloch by itself ( with its current pulley ratio) generates enough boost to justify that kind of effort, though. well I can see the obvious suggestion in my head, Party Pulley................. I like how you think... I'm planning to look into finding one. But the long time expert with these superchargers ( he did the 2nd and so far last rebuild on it for me ), has passed away. I'm sad about that, he was a very nice guy. And extremely knowledgeable. I'll have to see who can sell me a Party Pulley. |
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Feb 26, 2024 20:29:08 GMT
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Daft doesn't mean it's wrong... |
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Feb 27, 2024 11:27:35 GMT
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I guess there is a reason for silly sidesteps like planning that twice blown induction system.
The way I do my builds, is that I plan as far ahead as I can.
But also, I try to build in escape routes in the plan so I don't paint myself in a corner at some point.
I guess the planning ( which keeps going through the whole build), while trying to stay flexible when things are starting to take shape, have these kind of brain farts as a by product...
And even if some of them turn out to be dead ends, working them out in my head ( as detailed as possible) is gratifying too...
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Some progress this week, but less than usual. One of the things I lost time on was my scrap metal pile. I have a scrap pile for cut off pieces of metal, and other metal parts that get thrown away after building a car. A good friend of mine hauls metal for a living, and even though I live a bit remotely he'd come pick it up every once in a while. But Covid hit, and then he got some serious health problems, so he had to stop. And the pile grew. A lot... This week I was able to borrow a heavy duty trailer. All I had to do was load it, and the owner of the trailer would take care of the rest. This took several days, and today it got picked up. Driving away the owner said it felt like 3 or 4 tons, but he'll text me the actual weight later. Sorry, no pics. But my yard looks a lot better... For the future, before the pile gets out of hand again, I plan to build a little trash trailer. |
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The supercharger mounting brackets have been modified, and its bolted to the engine. ( it doesnt look any different from how it did in the last pic, except that it no longer used a block of wood to prop it up off the fender... ) And I started to work on the grille shell. All the holes were filled on it, but they did a horrible job. Which was lucky... They soldered pieces of metal behind each hole, but the bond was so bad they all cracked. A sharp hit with a pointy hammer popped each of them off...   But the top, where the radiator cap used to be, was caved in to lose the raised part around the hole. First I knocked out the filler piece, got rid of the bondo, and hammered out some of the worst dents.  And marked where I'd cut it.  More pics later... |
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jimi
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2.8 Uk tons ?
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Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour
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Yeah, I think that's about right. That was plenty to load by myself, by hand, over a long weekend... |
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braaap
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Then Your trailer should be a dump style, so You don't have to touch every piece twice.  |
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A good few $ worth of scrap in that lot, possibly £400/500 at current UK prices  |
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Black is not a colour ! .... Its the absence of colour
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What's a useable offcut vs scrap is up there with what's for tea in terms of hard life choices as an adult.
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glenanderson
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1932 Ford 5W Coupe.glenanderson
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What's a useable offcut vs scrap is up there with what's for tea in terms of hard life choices as an adult. I’m quite a squirrel when it comes to keeping stuff that might be suitable for repurposing. Generally speaking, by the time I get to weighing stuff in, even metalshapes couldn’t make anything useful from it. I suspect most of his stuff would have had even less potential than mine. 🤣🤣 |
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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