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Jul 16, 2022 23:33:38 GMT
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This first bit is just me geeking out on trivia. So if you want to skip all that ( probably recommended...  ) You could go to my actual car in my next post... The 1932 Ford introduced its Flathead ( or sidevalve, in Ye Olde English... )V8 , and because of the way the block was cast, it was a pretty big deal in the car industry at the time. The '32 was a one year only model ( which makes it a bit special in itself ) But since it was the first one with that engine, it was also the lightest of them all. In those years the Ford's interchangeability between the various years was fantastic, so the better & larger Flathead V8's out of newer cars were pretty much a bolt in. The engine was used in passenger cars till '54, and '73 outside the USA for specific applications. The best combinations of parts were well known ( a 4" crank out of a Mercury, the close ratio gears out of a Lincoln Zephyr, etc), so a guy with some hand tools could get good results with junkyard parts, even before he got serious with aftermarket heads / cams / intakes, etc... Its a legendary engine. But I wont be using it... You could also get the '32 with the Banger engine ( short for 4 banger ) which was already big in Hot Rodding, because of the popularity of the Model A and Model T. The flathead 4 was used until it was replaced by the V8 60 ( a smaller version of the Flathead V8 ) which was introduced in 1937. I wont be using that either. In 1953 Zora Arkus Duntov ( the father of the Corvette, but also the man behind the Ardun hemi head conversion for the Ford V8 ) wrote a memo to the GM brass, in which he explained how their new Chevrolet V8 ( to be introduced in '55 ) could become big in the Hot Rod world. If they played their cards right. They did, and the Chevy Small Block has become the industry standard for Hot Rods since then. That is the one I'll be using... |
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Jul 16, 2022 23:45:22 GMT
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OK, a little more trivia... So being the lightest, the '32 always going to be a popular base for Hot Rods & racecars. Out of the 32's, the Coupe's and the Roadster were the preferred choice. And they all have their following... In the beginning only the Roadsters were considered to be "real" Hot Rods, which gave us sayings like "Coupes are for chickens" But the coupes have gotten their foot in the door as well, long time ago, and cars like the Milner Coupe in American Graffiti are well known. That car is a 5 window ( which is my favorite body version ), but there was also the 3 window ( they produced a lot less of those, so they are rarer harder to find and more expensive ) 3W or 5W is for the number of pieces of glass, not counting the windshield. To me, the 1932 Ford is beautiful, specially the 5W. I think it looks a lot better than most late 20s and early 30s cars. And its place in automotive history ( as well as Hot Rodding ) is the icing on the cake. It has been a dreamcar of mine, long before I was able to buy one. |
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Jul 16, 2022 23:56:48 GMT
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Pics of the Milner coupe are easy enough to find, if anybody wants to look it up. And it wouldn't have been my inspiration anyway. Other than how they cut down the rear fenders ( AKA Bobbed ), its kind of a awkward looking car ( to me, anyway... ) One of my all time favorite cars ( not just Hot Rods, or '32s even ) is the Don Williams coupe.  That car still exists.  That car has been a big influence for me when I was building my '28, and the '32 was going to be a closed ( coupe ) version of the '28. So again influenced by the Don Williams coupe, without it being a clone of it. But then I would have been kind of building the same car twice, so that didnt make much sense either. ( still have the '28). So over the years the plan that has fermented is to build it as a full fendered car. But bob the rear fenders ( on the backside only ) |
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Because of other cars I was working on, but probably also because of me trying to decide on a buildstyle, it sat for years. Pretty much as I found it.  Early on, I was able to buy a dash out of a Fiat 500 Nuova ( very lucky Ebay find ). So that was always part of the plan.  A stock '32 has a cowl vent which is shaved on mine. The movable door and the surround are available repro, but they did a pretty nice job. So I think I'll leave it. Same with the shaved grille shell ( they filled the radiator cap hole ) That pegs it to a period ( as far as build style ), so I might as well keep going and fill the roof as well. ( a Ford Falcon station wagon roof skin will work perfectly for that). I'll aim for about a mid to late '70s buildstyle... Not just in style, but also with the choices of parts ( wheels, brakes, seats, engine parts, etc ). Me and a couple of buddies put most of the parts I've found together for a mockup. And that is probably pretty close to what it will look like. I'll do the frame nice so I've got a good base, with some paint & powdercoating. But I'll do very little to the body. Just the repairs I do have to make. I'll do those nice ( so I wont have to redo anything if I want to paint it later, in a couple of years ) The stuff I don't work on I'll just leave rough, as they are( pigeonpoop welds and all... ) It will get full glass, sound deadning, interior, and AC. I've got some pretty wild ideas for the engine ( the supercharged small journal 327 that used to be in my '28). But I may build a milder engine for it too ( we'll see what the wild engine will be like to live with, and they can swap out pretty easily) It will get the close ratio SuperT10 4 speed that used to be in my Capri. A Ford 9" rear axle ( a '57 or '58 with the smooth pumpkin ), and the Halibrands that were on my truck.   The mockup is apart again.  So I can copy the fender and runningboard mounting holes from the mock up chassis ( an original I borrowed from a friend), on my repro frame rails.  More later... |
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braaap
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Bookmarked! I'm not really a fan of hotrods (especially the fenderless kind), but I love Your diversity of cars and those many interesting stuff facts You add in (just like Dez does in his variety of threads). So following You both is always very interesting! Thanks for that! |
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Ooh yeah, I'm on board for this one!
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Jul 17, 2022 10:17:31 GMT
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Thanks guys |
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Jul 17, 2022 10:20:13 GMT
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The front three quarter view of the "mock-up looks as if you've already nailed it in the looks / proportions department. Love it I will be following this one with interest, great to see the truck being used for it's intended purpose too.
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Jul 17, 2022 10:47:31 GMT
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Thank you llwynogmon. It may get a little more rake than it had in the mockup ( I could only pile so many heavy things in the engine bay to get the nose down ), but way less than what is done on most current builds. To get a bit more of the 70s flavor. ( not a real fan of a heavy nose down rake, AKA stinkbug stance ) Yeah, once its painted, I'll have to be a bit more careful with the truck. But for now, it can earn its keep... |
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Jul 17, 2022 11:45:25 GMT
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As a life long hot rodder, what's not to like.
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Proton Jumbuck-deceased :-(
2005 Kia Sorento the parts hauling heap
V8 Humber Hawk
1948 Standard12 pickup SOLD
1953 Pop build (wifey's BIVA build).
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Jul 17, 2022 14:04:45 GMT
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Love it!
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Nuttier than squirrel sh...
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logicaluk
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Jul 17, 2022 16:47:23 GMT
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If metalshapes is building a hotrod, I'm in and can't wait to see it take metalshape. Dan |
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Jul 17, 2022 16:58:23 GMT
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Thanks guys |
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munky
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Jul 17, 2022 20:04:41 GMT
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I’m in |
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Yes please.
Of course I am in.
Your threads are both a pleasure and an education.
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sonus
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Looking forward to this👍
Wonder how it would look if you dropped the body down over the frame like the Don Williams Coupe, but managed to fit the fenders. That way the frame rails would disappear between the body and runners if that makes any sense?
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Current
1968 TVR VIXEN S1 V8 Prototype
2004 TVR T350C
2017 BMW 340i
Previous
BMW 325d E91LCI - sold
Alfa Romeo GTV - sold
Citroen AX GT - at the breakers
Ford Puma 1.7 - sold
Volvo V50 2.0d - sold
MGB GT - wrecked by fire
MG ZT 1.8T - sold
VW E-golf Electric - sold
Mini Countryman 1.6D -sold
Land Rover Discovery TD5 - sold
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Like this? Yeah, that would have been an option.  Similar treatment to this truck, and I really like the cut back front fenders. I very seriously considered it.  This one isnt channeled, bit it does have the bobbed fenders, front & back.  And another roadster.  I got as far as laying out the cutlines in tape, on my fenders. But the subfloors in my car are actually pretty nice, and 3 out of my 4 fenders are too. And it is 90 year old sheetmetal ( exactly 90, this year... ) So when the mockup went together in the way that it did, I decided to stick with that. But you can see by the pics I collected ( and I have many more), I was really thinking about it... |
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Thanks guys |
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At some point, I considered doing that with my Roadster as well.   But that one is done ( apart from some finish fab work, paint and upholstery. Which it will get,someday...)  |
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