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Wait until you see something measured in 1/64s of an inch, with tolerances listed in 0.001". Or have to measure a diameter specified as a fraction using a micrometer that's decimal. Imperial measurements should have died several times, but various idiots can't let go of them. And that's before you have to do common calculations using units that have no relevance to each other. Or the sheer fuckwittery of US and and UK pints(and all of the units based on them) being different quantities. Yes, that's a good example of why imperial is such a pain once you move past just measuring something. Although 'just' explaining the basic units and their mismatch of divisions is usually enough to make someone who has only used metric wander off muttering something like 'stupid English/Americans' |
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braaap
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Jul 20, 2022 18:43:04 GMT
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Wait until you see something measured in 1/64s of an inch, So far I knew 1/64 only as a scale for matchbox cars and I still wonder what strange factor this is!  But 1/64 of an inch... I'll get me coat! |
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Jul 20, 2022 18:55:53 GMT
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It's really just cutting things in half over and over again...half of 1 is 1/2 (obviously), half of 1/2 is 1/4, half of 1/4 is 1/8, half of 1/8 is 1/16, and so on. You do get good at reducing fractions.  So to go up a size from say 3/16, you reduce 4/16 to 2/8 => 1/4. To go down from 3/8, you convert to 16ths (6/16) and subtract one; 5/16. |
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Jul 20, 2022 19:06:59 GMT
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Alright.... I guess its a miracle I ever got this far on my '32, given the flawed measuring system I've been using on it. Tempting fate even more, I ordered a set of aftermarket chassis legs to stiffen the frame. The original chassis' did not have enough rigidity, boxing them helps a lot, but boxing them + these chassis legs will help even more... A buddy of mine in Phoenix , AZ. makes them. And he sure does nice work...     |
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Jul 20, 2022 20:16:34 GMT
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Doing it like this ( random pic off the internet ) is the usual way this is done. ( tubular X-members, either square or round )  In functionality, its probably about the same. Nothing really wrong with it. But I'll be a lot happier doing it this way. Even if it is more work, and costs more in parts... |
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Jul 20, 2022 20:21:10 GMT
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Your mate's versions look a whole lot more authentic than a tubular or box version...
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Jul 20, 2022 20:23:23 GMT
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I think so too.
I gave him a quick call to tell him I'm very happy with them...
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Jul 20, 2022 20:45:02 GMT
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They just look right, like they will take a decent amount of torque (however you measure it) and lighter, than the tubular version which looks cobbled together and not as strong.
Not that I know much about these things.
Dan
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Jul 20, 2022 21:07:04 GMT
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Wait until you see something measured in 1/64s of an inch, So far I knew 1/64 only as a scale for matchbox cars and I still wonder what strange factor this is! But 1/64 of an inch... I'll get me coat! No you know why there are 1/24 and 1/25 scales - the first is imperial 1" to two feet, and the other is the equivalent metric size. |
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Jul 20, 2022 22:32:13 GMT
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In the performance aircooled VW world, we mix and match - European car, American performance parts. So a copper head gasket could be 94mm diameter, and 40thou thick... Loving the 32, metalshapes, while I prefer a more 60s West Coast look, I do watch Matt at Iron Trap Garage on YouTube building some lovely East Coast style cars. With the sweet swage line on the outside of a 32 rail, it seems such a shame to hide it by dropping the body down over it! |
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1968 Cal Look Beetle - 2007cc motor - 14.45@93mph in full street trim
1970-ish Karmann Beetle cabriolet - project soon to be re-started.
1986 Scirocco - big plans, one day!
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That's it for now. I dropped all the chassis parts off at my buddies place, who has the welding jig. So he can rough it in for me ( when I get it back, I'll have to find the exact right spot for the x-members, because of the suspension parts I'm going to use ) He thought he'd maybe get to it in a month or so. I told him I'm not in a panic for it. I've got plenty of other stuff to do... |
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Your mate's versions look a whole lot more authentic than a tubular or box version... Agreed on this, box version looks selfmade or done for a kitcar. You will not see it on a complete car, only from underneath. But with an original body upon, some traditionaly stamped parts sure look much nicer from underneath. |
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No actual progress on the coupe yet. My buddy is working through his list of customer cars, and soon it will be the turn of my chassis. But I have been planning the spec of the car some more. I have a small journal 327SBC with a vintage McCullogh supercharger.  But I also have a ( incomplete ) vintage Accel draw through turbo setup. So I thought it would be a good idea to have the McCullogh blow into the turbo, and have that pressurize a set of Dellorto DRLA downdrafts on a Australian made adapter to mate the carbs to a dual plane intake meant for a Holley. As cool as that would be, it would also be very Rube Goldberg. So lots of time dialing it in ( specially considering that with that much boost it would also need Methanol injection to control the detonation).  |
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For a car that hopefully will see quite a bit of street use, it may be to temperamental... But then I saw an ad for these.   Its a set of 4 48IDF Webers on a Small Block Chevy intake. No linkage ( thats OK, those are usually garbage anyway and need to be redone ) Low profile intake ( I can get spacers ) Spanish Webers ( I would rather have had Italian made ones, but from what I can find, the Spanish made ones are good quality too ) This will simplify the build a lot ( Yeah, I'm going for quad Webers for simplicity... ) |
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That's going to be some induction setup!!
At the risk of being sacrilegious, you can get Weber lookalike throttle bodies so you could run a discrete EFI setup.
Should make it a chunk easier to get going and help driveability too.
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These carbs look like they've hardly been used. And I'm used to working with Webers ( I've spent some time dialing in Holley's, but I just don't like them us much). As far as EFI, the combined cost of 4 throttlebodies, an aftermaket ECU, wiring harness, and ( since I have no experience setting it up) paying for dyno time, would add up to way more than I have in mind for this. Webers are very precise and efficient. You can set them up for racing ( most, if not all books will give you the right sizing lists for that ), or the street. Which is way smaller on the venturi's, etc. For example, I used to have a Mk1 Escort Estate with a completely stock 1600Kent out of a Mk2 Sport in it. People familiar with Escorts & Webers told me that - 1st., you cant run Webers on a stock engine. And 2nd I'd need at least 32mm venturis, or 34's even. From working with stock Alfa Romeos, that didnt sound right to me. So I put a set of 40DCOE's on a bone stock engine ( just a long tube exhaust manifold ), and I put 28mm venturis in the carbs. After a lot of experimenting ( all by feel, back then I didnt have anything to measure mixture ) I ended up with a set of jets that gave way better mileage than the stock progressive carb, while giving much better acceleration. Top speed was about the same, so I guess I didnt gain or loose too much there ). I built a quad Weber setup for my Capri ( 4 DCNF's off Maserati/Citroen engines ) on a intake I made out of a early Rochester injection intake, with my own adapters and linkage. That worked good too.  This set will go on my '28 now because I got a great deal on a quad 48IDA setup, which is now on my Capri.  I like Webers... So even though I'm sure the EFI would work great, I'm going with what I know ( and hope I can pull it of, once more... ) |
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Some pics of my old Escort. I loved that car. It was exactly the right car for what I needed, and it was so much fun...    |
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Color, stance usability, wheels,... love it!
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Thank you braaap. That color is Porsche Moss Green. And , if I ever get around to getting the 5W Coupe painted, it will get that same color... |
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So to go up a size from say 3/16, you reduce 4/16 to 2/8 => 1/4. To go down from 3/8, you convert to 16ths (6/16) and subtract one; 5/16. 
