Dez
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Yes my main vice is a 112. They’re 6”x7” iirc? They’re a good vice, better than any other one I’ve encountered. That’s still down at the workshop til I finish there. This one is quite unusual, it’s a 4.5” I think, maybe 5” and would be pretty lowly except it has removable pipe grip jaws in the gap which is dead useful. It came off a British Gas van which explains it. http://instagram.com/p/BjxKiK7nMdH |
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Yes my main vice is a 112. They’re 6”x7” iirc? They’re a good vice, better than any other one I’ve encountered. That’s still down at the workshop til I finish there. This one is quite unusual, it’s a 4.5” I think, maybe 5” and would be pretty lowly except it has removable pipe grip jaws in the gap which is dead useful. It came off a British Gas van which explains it. http://instagr.am/p/BjxKiK7nMdH I don't think lowly is the right term? Weren't all this range of record vices (the heavy chipping ones) records most heavy duty stuff? The big ones were aimed at dockyards, railyards and the like. Pretty sure they were designed mainly for beating the hell out of stuff in. The next ones down were the 110-114 range, then down to the other steel ones, then the iron ones. I know the big heavy chipping ones are very desirable and can be stupid expensive. |
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It looks to have more height to the jaws than a normal equivalent. Compared to say a 110, and has more sliding surface for the dynamic, like American vices have.
(God I'm getting way too nerdy about vices!)
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Last Edit: Nov 5, 2021 0:47:15 GMT by VW
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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Well I must be just as bad as I knew exactly what you meant! It is listed as a American style Combination vice, it’s nowhere near big or heavy enough to be a chipper.
describing it as lowly, I mean it’s not QR, it’s not swivel, it’s only mid size and it’s not steel (afaik). Compared to say the 112 which was a flagship large steel QR model, it’s a budget alternative.
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Well I must be just as bad as I knew exactly what you meant! It is listed as a American style Combination vice, it’s nowhere near big or heavy enough to be a chipper. describing it as lowly, I mean it’s not QR, it’s not swivel, it’s only mid size and it’s not steel (afaik). Compared to say the 112 which was a flagship large steel QR model, it’s a budget alternative. Maybe they just made the smaller ones in the same style as the bigger chipping ones. It may be steel, I'm not sure. If not it might be the high quality iron (can't remember what they call it) that the later 11x series were made from. Only the early ones with steel on the side are actually steel. The fortis I'm finishing up is steel and I'm surprised how soft the castings are. I believe they swapped from steel to the unbreakable iron as it doesn't wear as quick ad cast steel, but is just as strong. |
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SG iron. Spheroidal graphite.
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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SG iron. Spheroidal graphite. Thats the one. |
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I managed to pick up a Gedore trolly, I beleive they sold them as bases for bigger boxes to make them more portable, I had to buy the welder that was sat on top of it to get it   |
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Very nice. I assume they arent common?
What welder was on it?
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Dez
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And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up.
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Club RR Member Number: 34
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No Gedore branded storage seems that common here tbh. The adjutants (1580) are most common but only maybe 2-3 a year pop up, vs. Literally 100s of comparable 26” snap on cabs. That trolley is interesting, styled off the 1580 range (not like the newer models) but looks a bit more modern with it being a stacking system. On the subject, does anyone know where you can get the bumper insert for these Gedore units? It’s like herzim strip but protrudes a lot more. It’s 18mm wide. I mailed Gedore UK and they’ve not replied.  |
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This thread has prompted a bit of reminiscing. I’ve got these Waterloo boxes, the 6-drawer top box I bought in September 1989 when I finished my apprenticeship. The bottom cabinet under it came from my mum the following Christmas, and I bought the intermediate 4-drawer add on with some of the money from my 21st birthday in 1990. The big Waterloo top box got bought mid/late 90s and the Sealey cabinet is a relatively modern item I bought when we moved here.  |
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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This thread has prompted a bit of reminiscing. I’ve got these Waterloo boxes, the 6-drawer top box I bought in September 1989 when I finished my apprenticeship. The bottom cabinet under it came from my mum the following Christmas, and I bought the intermediate 4-drawer add on with some of the money from my 21st birthday in 1990. The big Waterloo top box got bought mid/late 90s and the Sealey cabinet is a relatively modern item I bought when we moved here. A nice collection! |
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No Gedore branded storage seems that common here tbh. The adjutants (1580) are most common but only maybe 2-3 a year pop up, vs. Literally 100s of comparable 26” snap on cabs. That trolley is interesting, styled off the 1580 range (not like the newer models) but looks a bit more modern with it being a stacking system. On the subject, does anyone know where you can get the bumper insert for these Gedore units? It’s like herzim strip but protrudes a lot more. It’s 18mm wide. I mailed Gedore UK and they’ve not replied. It's one of those things that I'm sure I've seen somewhere else. Searching the usual rubber section supploers may yield something, but if it did, it would no doubt be black. I'm sure I've seen very similar, but if if have, it was probably on something mid century or medical, so of no use really. I'll keep my eyes peeled. |
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Nov 11, 2021 19:44:25 GMT
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Very nice. I assume they arent common? What welder was on it? Never seen another in the flesh. It had a Pickersgill oil cooled welder on it just like an Oxford, I gave it away |
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Nov 11, 2021 19:53:17 GMT
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Very nice. I assume they arent common? What welder was on it? Never seen another in the flesh. It had a Pickersgill oil cooled welder on it just like an Oxford, I gave it away I thought it may have been something like that. I've been curiously eyeing old oil cooled mma welders recently. Quite fancy the idea of playing with one. No real use for one though. I'll pick one up if I find one local and cheap. |
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Nov 11, 2021 23:07:05 GMT
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Hi, Good luck picking one up because they are 'kin heavy.  Colin |
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From memory My Oxford was free as it wasn't working soon fixed it a wire was of internally, the other was about £40-50?
Excellent welder to have as a great back up
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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Nov 12, 2021 10:51:20 GMT
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Hi, Good luck picking one up because they are 'kin heavy. Colin I'm finding that out! Small ones are 75kg? |
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Nov 12, 2021 10:59:56 GMT
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From memory My Oxford was free as it wasn't working soon fixed it a wire was of internally, the other was about £40-50? Excellent welder to have as a great back up I don't often weld anything thicker than 3mm. I'm sacking off my old clarke mig for a eland I've just bought that needs a little fixing. A mma would be handy to have about though for occasional thick brackets, and just for the fun if learning the technique. I have the same thoughts with tig though, want to learn, but don't really need it. I may be better off buying a cheap inverter tig/mma, but then I think I may as well spend more and get ac/dc son I can weld ally (although I have managed to mig ally in the past). I'll see, I should really be concentrating on sorting a bigger lathe than buying old/cheap welders! Main issue with old oil welders seems to be the cost of oil if it needs more/new! Hard to check levels. Could be full, could have lost it all! Unless it's currently leaking you don't really know till you open it up. |
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Last Edit: Nov 12, 2021 11:03:33 GMT by VW
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Nov 12, 2021 12:51:08 GMT
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Some have a dip stick.
Look for older ads as usually they just want rid of it so will take an offer, my oxford was a bloke going in to a retirement bungalow thing and didnt want to throw it away, he was made up we rescued it.
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It will come in handy even if you never use it
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