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Sept 21, 2021 4:45:01 GMT
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I have always liked these old girls and so when this pair came up as an abandoned project through a mate of a mate, I was like a moth to a flame! The grey car is solid & the shell is rust free. The previous owner has done a lot of good quality work on it and left it in really good shape, but there is still a mountain to climb to get it going. It's complete but in bits. The white car is complete but irredeemably rusty - it's a goner. It's got all the brightwork and a pretty good red interior. It hasn't been messed around with and is a good parts car / template. Does anyone know if that texture on the firewall and engine bay is factory? Seems to be a stoneguard type product. If it is I'll have to figure out how to prep the bay without destroying it as my wire wheel will make a pig of itself. Two and half litres of Daimler's finest. Engine and Trans are both matching numbers which is nice. Heads are off and it looks like it'll go again - I haven't measured it up yet but one thing at a time... engine will come later Transport detail! Full day's mission getting both cars and all parts safely home and tucked away under cover. Poor old parts car slowly dissolving into the driveway.
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Last Edit: Sept 21, 2021 4:46:31 GMT by edwagon
1964 Daimler 2.5 V8 (project)
2015 Disco 4 SDV6
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nze12
Part of things
Posts: 193
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Sept 21, 2021 4:58:39 GMT
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NZ?
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1986 BMW E30 refreshed to original spec 1973 BMW E12 520 converting to Motorsport 530 1982 XJS V12 converting to 5 speed manual
Many landscaping projects overriding above!
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum!
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Sept 21, 2021 7:17:09 GMT
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Looks a good project, the white one in the UK would probably be considered restorable
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Sept 21, 2021 10:33:58 GMT
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Yassir, based in Auckland.
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1964 Daimler 2.5 V8 (project)
2015 Disco 4 SDV6
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Sept 21, 2021 10:49:08 GMT
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Looks a good project, the white one in the UK would probably be considered restorable Haha yep - looking at what people like yourself have accomplished I guess anything is possible. No amount of corrosion is ever considered too much! Its been a well looked after car and so looks fairly reasonable at a glance - a few quid at Martin Robey for front wing repair sections and some misc repair panels and should be good as new... but every time I think this and go and have a look, on closer inspection I soon decide it is terminal. I'll add some photos of it sometime - see what you think
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1964 Daimler 2.5 V8 (project)
2015 Disco 4 SDV6
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nze12
Part of things
Posts: 193
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Sept 21, 2021 18:21:19 GMT
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Yassir, based in Auckland.  Welcome to L3! 🙂 The shrubbery and the Hirepool trailer gave it away! All the best with this project - looks great. I'm Whangarei based btw.
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1986 BMW E30 refreshed to original spec 1973 BMW E12 520 converting to Motorsport 530 1982 XJS V12 converting to 5 speed manual
Many landscaping projects overriding above!
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum!
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Sept 22, 2021 0:55:55 GMT
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I have always liked these old girls and so when this pair came up as an abandoned project through a mate of a mate, I was like a moth to a flame! Does anyone know if that texture on the firewall and engine bay is factory? Seems to be a stoneguard type product. If it is I'll have to figure out how to prep the bay without destroying it as my wire wheel will make Stone chip not standard just body coloured paint.
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Last Edit: Sept 27, 2021 22:50:11 GMT by Rich
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Sept 22, 2021 9:45:08 GMT
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Neat! They're cracking little engines those Daimler V8s. Nothing particularly wacky or out there, just a proven design executed really well (although hemi heads might qualify as out there when they were first conceived).
I have wondered how well one of the 4.5l V8s from the Majestic might fit in one of those...
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Sept 22, 2021 11:16:48 GMT
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Nice find - looking forward to seeing how this progresses
My Mk2 Jag doesn't have any texture on the firewall, but it is a South African assembled car so could be different.
Cortinaman
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Old Fords never die they just go sideways
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Sept 22, 2021 18:47:37 GMT
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Nice find - looking forward to seeing how this progresses My Mk2 Jag doesn't have any texture on the firewall, but it is a South African assembled car so could be different. Cortinaman Both of my UK cars had some form of stonechip inside the engine bay then painted over in body colour.
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Sept 23, 2021 7:18:56 GMT
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Nice find - looking forward to seeing how this progresses My Mk2 Jag doesn't have any texture on the firewall, but it is a South African assembled car so could be different. Cortinaman Both of my UK cars had some form of stonechip inside the engine bay then painted over in body colour. Interesting - my car has had a full respray and colour change at some point before I owned it so its quite possible the stonechip was stripped off then.
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Old Fords never die they just go sideways
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Sept 23, 2021 9:21:34 GMT
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Sounds like a cracking project(s). Always quite fancied one of these myself...
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Sept 27, 2021 7:48:46 GMT
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Both of my UK cars had some form of stonechip inside the engine bay then painted over in body colour. Interesting - my car has had a full respray and colour change at some point before I owned it so its quite possible the stonechip was stripped off then. Thanks for this, the engine bay paint on my own parts car is too rough to be conclusive, so appreciate the input. I am keen to keep it as original as possible. I'll see how I get on when time comes to prep the bay for paint, I'll save it if I can but won't panic too much.
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1964 Daimler 2.5 V8 (project)
2015 Disco 4 SDV6
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Sept 27, 2021 8:30:53 GMT
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Neat! They're cracking little engines those Daimler V8s. Nothing particularly wacky or out there, just a proven design executed really well (although hemi heads might qualify as out there when they were first conceived). I have wondered how well one of the 4.5l V8s from the Majestic might fit in one of those... Yea they're a lovely little engine. So much has been written about them over the years and I haven't actually stopped and looked at how they were viewed when they were new - "A British V8 with Aluminum Hemi Heads? When will this heresy end!" Lots of fokelore about the 4.5L being tried in an early prototype and going pretty well - too well vs the Jag 3.8 version and so was canned - no idea if it is true but the story loses nothing in the telling.
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1964 Daimler 2.5 V8 (project)
2015 Disco 4 SDV6
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Sept 27, 2021 9:36:03 GMT
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Been a bit of a slow start to the project with winter and the recent lockdown, so I've been taking the opportunity to do a bit of a stocktake. One thing missing from both cars were the keys - the previous owner never had the Ignition key for the grey car, and both keys for the parts car got lost somewhere along the way. The plan is to make one set of locks out of both cars - should be easy enough, right? Just get the barrel numbers and have keys cut to suit. I read somewhere that there were two keys delivered for Mk2 Jags (and presumably also the Daimler?) - one for the Ignition and doors, and one for the glovebox and boot. The FS number for the barrel was stamped on the ignition barrel fascia, so that should sort the Ignition and doors for both cars - easy - online order for keys placed. The grey car had a glovebox key and I got the barrel number from the glovebox catch, but when I went to find the matching boot lock in amongst the spares, I found the barrel had been smashed! - I guess it was locked closed some time in the past and someone decided to break in. That means my working glovebox lock can't be a pair with the boot. Never mind, there is always the parts car. So to the white car - boot lock intact, but with very rusty looking screws and a boot load of spares blocking access to work on it. And the glovebox is locked. Ugh boy. Loads of WD40 on the rusted screws and emptied the boot to get access. Few taps with the impact driver and miraculously the screws came out. I can't see a number on the boot lock mechanism and it doesn't look easy to remove the barrel - it looks like the screws were fitted before the mechanism was riveted, and I can't see how to remove (or replace) them. So to get the barrel number, I need to either get it from the boot lock somehow, or break into the glovebox without wrecking anything and get the number from there - anyone have any pro-tips on this? Can anyone tell me how the boot lock operates? I can make this lock open and close pretty easily by hand, by flicking the catch down and then pushing the barrel in - it plunges about 5mm and the catch pops. Is that how it's supposed to work? Can it be left unlocked so you just need to push on the barrel? Or is it just worn like that? I'm used to boot locks that you need to turn the key to pop every time, and so am confused by this behavior! Pic of barrel orientation - is this 'unlocked'? In the meantime, my Ignition and door keys arrived. Progress! First the grey car, with a great sense of occasion I tried the new key in the barrel.... and it only went in halfway. Wha?? Then I noticed that the barrel spun freely - even with my fingernail. Ugh, so this lock has been forced and wrecked too. Ok, at least the doors should work - nope, no dice there either - key only goes in halfway again, but don't turn. Things were better with the white car - the new key worked nicely in the ignition, but the same key wouldn't turn the lock in the door handle. It feels like the wrong key - it goes in ok but won't turn the lock. So after all that I have one working ignition key, one opening glovebox, no working doors, and all my remaining hope pinned on a rusty old boot lock. If anyone can shed any light I'll be very grateful!
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1964 Daimler 2.5 V8 (project)
2015 Disco 4 SDV6
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Sept 27, 2021 9:46:12 GMT
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916 is an FS series number.
Whether that's why it's stamped there though....
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'57 Austin Cambridge A55 1800 Overdrive '50 MG Y-type (In build) '56 Standard Super 10 (In build) '04 Seat Leon TDi 130 (Wet weather runabout) '03 Citroen Berlingo HDi (Parts hauler)
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Sept 27, 2021 22:32:09 GMT
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916 is an FS series number. Whether that's why it's stamped there though.... HA! Yea, it could almost be an FS series number, and it sticks out in a photo, but in person looks a lot more weathered and like it's part of the stamping part number. I'd written it off as not being useful. Anyway, surely they wouldn't go back and stamp the lock body with the number of the bolt-on barrel mechanism? I was out when I saw your post so started re-checking google images of bootlocks and hmm, yea, that number does seem to vary a bit from lock to lock, fits into the FS series and isn't always neatly stamped in a straight line - almost like it COULD have been done on the production line after all... I dug out the other smashed boot lock when I got home but it didn't look like there was a number there. On closer inspection with my glasses on and a scratch with a wire brush, there was a number there, stamped fairly lightly.... and matched the number on the glovebox lock! So that's an easy one, pretty clearly IS the FS number after all - I'll order that key and hopefully it fits the glovebox too. Thanks heaps for pointing that out!
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1964 Daimler 2.5 V8 (project)
2015 Disco 4 SDV6
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Sept 28, 2021 6:01:14 GMT
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Neat! They're cracking little engines those Daimler V8s. Nothing particularly wacky or out there, just a proven design executed really well (although hemi heads might qualify as out there when they were first conceived). I have wondered how well one of the 4.5l V8s from the Majestic might fit in one of those... A walk in the park; I fitted a 4.6 Majestic Major engine into my (very rare) manual transmission V8-250 (MOL 6F; sadly doesn't seem to be about anymore) in the mid 1970s. A little simple bracket fabrication, as far as I recall. Even the 2.5 flywheel fitted, although it could usefully have been a little heavier. It went like the clappers. At the time, many SP250s were similarly modified.
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Sept 28, 2021 11:36:20 GMT
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I guess it's the equivalent of fitting an M30B35 3.5-litre straight six in place of an M20B25 2.5-litre straight six in a BMW E30 or similar...
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Sept 28, 2021 13:28:33 GMT
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The problem is finding a 4.5 and then trying to find parts for it. Also, if the 2.5 is as bulletproof as legend has it, then why bother with anything bigger. I'd love to turbocharge one of these motors.
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Last Edit: Sept 28, 2021 19:06:40 GMT by horrido
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