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Apr 21, 2021 12:24:35 GMT
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I think from the factory they were never the same from side to side. Unfortunately we tend to use the quality standards of today on old cars, which makes life much more difficult for us.
Your car was probably lopsided from new.
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Apr 22, 2021 19:08:26 GMT
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Agree with Mark ^ and was going to post the same comment! I’ve had two classic Fords where the axles rubbed on one side but never the other. When I tore into my Anglia, obviously I had to do a lot of measuring, and basically the mounts had been welded on about 4-5mm out at the factory. Your Jag is far more hand-built than mine so it doesn’t surprise me that it was probably fettled a bit on the production line, to line everything up!
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npp
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somehow missed this until now.
Amazing work on a beautiful car!
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ovimor
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Apr 23, 2021 11:08:17 GMT
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Looking forward to seeing it finished...
*On the Beach!
OVIMOR
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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Apr 23, 2021 16:26:57 GMT
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Thanks for posting a very and informative thread, a masterclass!!
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gazzam
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Apr 26, 2021 16:18:15 GMT
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The diversions continued. Another little project was to attempt to make a door catch. I had one that was pretty rough but probably fixable, the other was broken in two. The problem with these is they are made of pot metal. I tried to tig weld it with aluminium filler rod and while it seemed to take, it was a bit iffy. So I thought I would have a go at milling one from steel. I literally found this chunk in the paddock a while back and thought it might be useful one day. After spending most of the day on the mill, it had turned it into this. To be truthful, that’s after polishing and plating with nickel. I don’t have a picture of it straight from the mill. I was pretty chuffed at how it turned out.. I thought the second one would be a breeze, but I stuffed it up completely and had to start again. The third was ok. They can be bought for about £50, so that’s my hourly rate sorted then. Any comments and queries welcome. Cheers Garry
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Last Edit: May 7, 2021 13:54:16 GMT by gazzam
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Apr 26, 2021 17:47:01 GMT
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I have to say that, (those,) catches are little short of superb, Nigel
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BMW E39 525i Sport BMW E46 320d Sport Touring (now sold on.) BMW E30 325 Touring (now sold on.) BMW E30 320 Cabriolet (Project car - currently for sale.)
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ovimor
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Apr 26, 2021 17:52:33 GMT
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I have to say that, (those,) catches are little short of superb, Nigel ..... Yeah, sadly the one he chucked out was a 'little short' ha ha Excellent workmanship here OVIMOR
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Knowledge is to know a Tomato is a 'fruit' - Wisdom, on the other hand, is knowing not to put it in a 'fruit salad'!
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Norman
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Apr 26, 2021 18:34:27 GMT
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Lovely job all round, the catch looks great and it’s not going to break!
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gazzam
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Apr 27, 2021 16:28:48 GMT
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Thanks for the kind words. Okay, so still waiting on the bits to repair the bonnet hinges. I started stripping the chassis. Here’s the left hand front suspension on the bench, ready to be pulled apart. Lots of bits to clean, paint and plate here. Lower control arm laid out so I can work out how to put it back together. After blasting and stamping with an L so I know which side they came from. And ready for paint. I used Hirsch Miracle Paint. Brush on a thin coat and when it’s tack free spray a fairly heavy coat. Very pleased with the result, looks like powder coat, but not as thick. Also very tough. No affiliation etc. Hopefully I’ll be as happy with it in 10 years... And the finished bits. Rear springs were pulled apart, cleaned, reassembled and then painted with the same stuff. That’s all for now. Any comments or queries welcome, cheers Garry
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75swb
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Apr 27, 2021 23:57:11 GMT
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Very much enjoying following progress! Thanks for posting.
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gazzam
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Apr 28, 2021 18:51:26 GMT
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The bits for the bonnet hinges finally arrived. I wanted to rebuild the hinges so that the bonnet would close into the same place all the time. It was hopeless trying to position the guards if the bonnet ended up in a slightly different position each time I closed it. I don’t have a photo of the hinges before the paint was removed. This is one that has been pulled apart and some broken spot welds repaired. The pivot pins on the left in this photo are what have to be replaced in order to take the slop out of the hinge. The idea is to drill out the existing hole in the side plates to 8mm. (They were approximately 6.5mm so not a huge increase) Then replace the pins with a piece of 8mm stainless rod and a spacer made of 8mm id stainless tube. Like this: Here is the hinge bead blasted and ready to zinc plate: Plated and ready to assemble. The stainless rod is really hard. It’s off ebay and quite cheap but beautiful stuff. (I think it is used in printers etc for things to slide on). It’s very hard so I heated the ends in the hope that it would make it a bit softer and easier to peen over. I also drilled the ends to help with this. Pivot arms attached. Complete. And then there were two... That’s all for now, pretty much the end of the diversions. Back to bodywork. Comments and queries welcomed. Cheers Garry
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Apr 28, 2021 20:16:39 GMT
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Those hinges are a work of art.
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gazzam
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Apr 28, 2021 22:44:45 GMT
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Those hinges are a work of art. 😃 Why thank you. Just kidding. Yes they are a hell of a design, though they can be a pain to adjust if they have a bit of wear.
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front suspension looks the same as E type, Jaguar did love to use the same bits on all the cars.
Those catches are beautiful, his will be worth a fortune if it's all to that standard
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Apr 29, 2021 20:16:32 GMT
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Wow, what a project...
And as Mark said about the symmetry of old cars, he is absolutely right.
A buddy of mine did some accurate measuring on his Mk1 Escort racecar, and found that the front shocktowers were more than 1/2" out, from left to right.
I measured about 1/4" of twist in my Fiat 600 based racer.
And those ( the base cars ) are assembly line produced ( admittedly with their own histories before we got them ).
Hand built cars were much worse.
This was common knowledge.
But these days with easily available laser measuring equipment, etc, people tend to go great lengths to get them straighter than they ever were...
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gazzam
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Apr 30, 2021 15:56:15 GMT
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So the bonnet hinges were done, no putting off that guard now. Well yes I can. I can move to the sills, doors (well one door) b pillar and rear guard before I have to attack the dreaded right hand front. Which I still don’t know how I’m going to do. The bonnet was now closing in about the same place reliably, so I could position the left hand guard with some confidence. That meant the left hand sill and b pillar could also be tacked in place. But first I had to make the sills. They were about a foot too long for my folder so I got a local sheet metal guy to fold the 4 sections for me. Then I tacked them together so I could put them in position until I was happy with everything, then I could take them out and trim/weld the ends etc. Here are the bits that form the sills. These are the two main pieces primed and ready to weld together. One piece has expensive weld thru primer and the other has less expensive regular primer. I admit I’m not 100% convinced that weld through primer is more than a marketing thing. Sill welded. Rosette welds ready to be dressed. Completed sill. Tune in next time for even more right hand front guard avoidance. Comments and queries welcome. Cheers Garry
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teaboy
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Apr 30, 2021 16:20:27 GMT
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Tune in next time for even more right hand front guard avoidance. Comments and queries welcome. Cheers Garry As my Dad didn't say to me; Never put off until tomorrow what can be done the day after, or the week after that... Job avoidance is my speciality.
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Apr 30, 2021 17:19:09 GMT
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Why procrastinate today when the whole of tommorrow is untouched?
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iant
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Just discovered this car and your superb work on it tonight. Thanks for sharing, I'm absolutely loving it and look forward to future updates.
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