Donald
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I think that I may have posted a thread on here before but nothing approaching the intended magnitude of what I hope this is going to be. First priority is to get the thing running. During the purchase process the vendor informed me it had good oil pressure and ran well, albeit with a cracked cylinder head. Thankfully he had a spare cylinder head and also included a spare door so that came as part of the deal, along with the gasket sets and a few other odds and sods. Pushed it on to the trailer and headed home, all was well with the world. Got it home and rolled it off the trailer with the intention of getting it running to make it easier to move around prior to starting to make it road worthy again - curious discovery time. It transpired that there was no distributor on the engine. This confused me. How can I have bought a car that has demonstrated good oil pressure and a leaky cylinder head if it doesn't run ? Cue an acrimonious exchange with the vendor regarding the terms of the sale. Why would I expect there to be a distributor with the car? I have bought a few cars over the years and most of them have had some form of ignition on them. Anyway, tantrum and bad blood later, the vendor gracefully dispatched said distributor and that is currently where we are. Still haven't fitted it and don't even know if it is the right one but, given the gentleman's standing in certain classic car circles I will assume that all will be well. Once it's up and running and I'm satisfied the engine and gearbox are working satisfactorily I will commence with what everyone who reads these threads is looking for. Taking it all back out and starting to change it into what I want. I have a very definite plan on what I want to do with this and how I want it to look and behave. As with everything I do I have no idea how I'm going to do it. Plans will be fluid and I will adapt to what I find as I go along. I don't believe I have seen the intended conversion done before but I am prepared to stand corrected. Watch this space.   |
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Last Edit: Jan 9, 2021 5:13:47 GMT by Donald
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Alright, I'll see where this goes.
Always liked these.
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dazcapri
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Always wanted one of these I'm in bookmarked
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Norman
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That’s the original colour scheme of mine although mine has been painted a horrible green colour somewhere in its life. I have a build thread on here that has temporarily stalled. Your car looks sound and hopefully it’s way better than mine underneath. I will be following this with great interest, all the best, Norman
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Always good to see more of these earlier Rootes cars - they sadly seem to be rather overlooked compared to many of their contempories. Also with this shape, I much prefer ones like this with the wrap around back window - the facelifted ones with the squarer rear glasshouse never looked quite right in comparison.
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hagus
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Yeah fantastic shape these, mate built one when we were teenagers, from a wreck from the scrapper, put in a fiat twin cam from a Fiat strada 130... did about 115 mph if I remember rightly, that was in about 1992 I reckon.
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Donald
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bstardchild
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Sorry - I didn't mean to do that - I didn't realise you had a thread on the car...... |
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Donald
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You bought two of them!!!!
You know the superchargers and boost processes are completely different?
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Is the red one an Auto?
It's been off the road longer than my old one has (August 2016)
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Donald
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You bought two of them!!!! You know the superchargers and boost processes are completely different? Perhaps, but the scrap value of the cats is approximately the same - and very close to what I paid for the second car Is the red one an Auto? It's been off the road longer than my old one has (August 2016) It was the right price and may (or may not) have the longer propshaft on it. I will find out later. Worst case scenario, I will have a spare bare engine if required as well as options around ECU's, sensors etc. No real intention of altering the black cars running gear or set up - just couldn't say no to a second one that was so local. |
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You bought two of them!!!! You know the superchargers and boost processes are completely different? Perhaps, but the scrap value of the cats is approximately the same - and very close to what I paid for the second car Well played Is the red one an Auto? It's been off the road longer than my old one has (August 2016) It was the right price and may (or may not) have the longer propshaft on it. I will find out later. Worst case scenario, I will have a spare bare engine if required as well as options around ECU's, sensors etc. No real intention of altering the black cars running gear or set up - just couldn't say no to a second one that was so local. Amazing you go hunting for one and end up with two on the drive OK the early cars I think were 5 speed not 6 speed and have a bigger 65 charger that runs only after certain rpm (clutch controlled) |
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Donald
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The red car is automatic which may, or may not, relate to what you were saying about superchargers.
The way I'm looking at it is primarily that I will learn a lot about how they come to bits as I strip the red car and remove the bits I think I will need.
I will also be able to use the engine to mock up fitment in the Singer, albeit without the gearbox / transmission tunnel modifications
Therefore, when it comes to time for dismantling the 'actual' donor car I should have a much better idea of what to expect.
The theory is sound. The 5 or so years difference in car age and reality may well be a different story though.
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It will be usefull to have spare subframe / suspension assemblies to try out ideas on before committing to a final design.
How rusty is the singer?, if the underneath is like Norman's was it might be worth considering keeping the complete underbody from the merc and transplating the top of the singer onto it.
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The red car is automatic which may, or may not, relate to what you were saying about superchargers. The way I'm looking at it is primarily that I will learn a lot about how they come to bits as I strip the red car and remove the bits I think I will need. I will also be able to use the engine to mock up fitment in the Singer, albeit without the gearbox / transmission tunnel modifications Therefore, when it comes to time for dismantling the 'actual' donor car I should have a much better idea of what to expect. The theory is sound. The 5 or so years difference in car age and reality may well be a different story though. The basic engine - block mounts gearbox connection etc are all same (M111 engine is an M111 engine regardless) My old one is only a facelift of the early car - architecture is the same - it was just bolt on bits like bumpers, mirrors and skirts that changed to be honest |
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Donald
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It will be usefull to have spare subframe / suspension assemblies to try out ideas on before committing to a final design. How rusty is the singer?, if the underneath is like Norman's was it might be worth considering keeping the complete underbody from the merc and transplating the top of the singer onto it. By all accounts the Singer seems to be remarkably solid. I will obviously be having a good look at the floors before I start cutting but I don't expect to have to go to the lengths Norman has gone to to make it viable. That said, I have been wrong before |
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