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1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!

kevins Posted a lot Posts: 4,859	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!kevins @kevins
	Jan 13, 2021 21:57:19 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I thought Christ they have gone up!, then I realised I use the smaller cylinder which is £70 but holds a lot less gas, still lasts a reasonable time though. and yes I have left it turned on and wasted a cylinder as well.


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Norman Part of things Posts: 449	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Norman @90989
	Jan 15, 2021 19:14:50 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Here are a few pictures of the latest work. I didn’t get much done as i keep getting distracted with other stuff in the garage. The first pic shows the chassis leg which had a bink in it. This is it with a piece cut out to allow me to hammer it back into shape. I have treated the area with hydrate 80 and weld through primer. I also closed it back in and ground the welds back and fired some primer on it. This is the next area to be tackled, i have cut the rust out and will treat the area with hydrate 80. I previously mentioned the car had been accident damaged so i will need to do more hammer work on the front valence to make it straighter. Once i have done that i will fabricate a piece to fit between the valence and wheel tub. That’s it for now folks, i will try and do some more over the weekend if it’s not too cold, it was freezing today so had to have some heat on! Please feel free to comment etc, all the best, Norman.


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eternaloptimist Posted a lot Too many projects, not enough time or space... Posts: 2,578	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!eternaloptimist @eternaloptimist
	Jan 16, 2021 9:40:26 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Looking good Norman.
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Paul H Posted hell of a lot Posts: 7,208	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Paul H @amazonsprite
	Jan 16, 2021 22:44:35 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Great to see updates on this
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dodgerover Posted hell of a lot "These days turned out nothing like I had planned" Posts: 5,921	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!dodgerover @dodgerover
	Jan 17, 2021 0:18:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Good to see an update.
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auswol Part of things Posts: 21	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!auswol @auswol
	Jan 17, 2021 1:03:34 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Great to see more work being done on this, I always enjoy your updates.


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Donald East of England Posts: 133	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Donald @donald
	Jan 18, 2021 2:27:04 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Really enjoying reading this thread and seeing how you are getting on with it. I will hopefully be making a start on my 1962 Vogue in the not too distant future. I think a new bottle of gas, goggles and cutting discs need to go on the shopping list !


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Norman Part of things Posts: 449	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Norman @90989
	Jan 18, 2021 18:30:37 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi Donald, Hope yours is not as rotten as mine!! Here is todays progress, this is the area to be filled. Area cleaned up, weld through primer applied. Here is the repair plate i made, bent to shaped and tacked into place. The next pics are the plate fully welded, ground back and some etch primer fired on. While i was in there i lightly rubbed back the inner side of the wing and applied hydrate 80. Tomorrow i will apply some etch primer before i cover the area. That’s all for now, tomorrow i hope to get the inner wing done. This will be another test of the skills I don’t possess. All the best and take care, Norman
	Last Edit: Jan 18, 2021 18:35:09 GMT by Norman

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blackpopracing Posted hell of a lot Posts: 7,900	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!blackpopracing @blackpopracing
	Jan 18, 2021 20:15:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Just found this thread & read through it in one hit! Wow there must be more weld than original car now!! Top marks for doing this - all the people who say why bother will never know the immense satisfaction of doing this sort of work. Welding tip,get yourself a decent earth clamp. That pressed tin thing is rubbish. A decent earth clamp will improve your welds. R Tech are a top company for welding bits, reasonable costs too. earth clamp Or get a longer cable with the clamp attached (need to cut the euro connector off) Earth clamp & cable
	Last Edit: Jan 18, 2021 20:16:18 GMT by blackpopracing www.case-design.co.uk www.hotrodphotos.co.uk

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Norman Part of things Posts: 449	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Norman @90989
	Jan 18, 2021 21:04:13 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi, thanks for the tip. I have got a better welding clamp similar to the one linked, unfortunately with arthritis in my fingers I can’t squeeze the damn thing. Maybe I should have some weetabix! Thanks for the encouragement also, sometimes i look at it and think what am i doing. I had lost my way for a few weeks but i have decided to push on and get it done. Love the thread on your own car, it must give you great satisfaction. All the best, Norman.


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blackpopracing Posted hell of a lot Posts: 7,900	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!blackpopracing @blackpopracing
	Jan 19, 2021 12:54:38 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	If you have problems with arthritis you could make a clamp up using a smallish G cramp. Not as good as the linked one as that has copper/brass mating surfaces but it would still contact better and be easier on your hands. Yes, sometimes it's hard to keep the mojo going - my build took 25 years!!! but it's worth it in the end. Chin up on bad days - every bit of progress is a bit nearer the end.
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Norman Part of things Posts: 449	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Norman @90989
	Jan 21, 2021 19:13:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Another wee bit done today, it had been snowing here overnight and the garage was cold, anyhow if you keep moving the cold isn’t too bad. I am attempting to make the wheel tub good to the wheel arch. I needed to curve the metal in two/three directions so there wasn’t much chance of that. I tried to shape the metal to do this in one piece but that wasn’t happening. I decided to fit it in smaller pieces and it looks ok and i have tacked it to the wheel arch profile. I have minimised the distortion by cooling the welds with compressed air. Here are a couple of pictures of the progress. I have this area to do tomorrow, i need to tie a couple of areas in as i go. The area between the repair panel and the wheel arch will need tidying, I don’t know whether to smear some body filler in there or rely on seam sealer, what do you guys think? That it for today, another exciting episode tomorrow if it’s not too blooming cold. As usual feel free to comment etc. All the best and stay safe, Norman
	Last Edit: Jan 21, 2021 19:16:21 GMT by Norman

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eternaloptimist Posted a lot Too many projects, not enough time or space... Posts: 2,578	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!eternaloptimist @eternaloptimist
	Jan 21, 2021 19:53:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I’d use seam sealer, less likely to crack.
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blackpopracing Posted hell of a lot Posts: 7,900	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!blackpopracing @blackpopracing
	Jan 21, 2021 20:23:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	if it's prone to movement or the gap is more than 2-3mm I'd use Tiger Seal (or other name brand PU adhesive) as it sticks forever and is flexible.
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Norman Part of things Posts: 449	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Norman @90989
	Jan 21, 2021 20:30:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi guys, Thanks for the advice, it shouldn’t move as it tacked in and the gap is no more than 1 or 2mm. I am a while from doing it so will check out suggestions.


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kevins Posted a lot Posts: 4,859	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!kevins @kevins
	Jan 21, 2021 20:30:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	As above use a seam sealer, most fillers absorb water if the paint is breached or it cracks and will cause all your good work to rot away again.


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shielsy68 Posted a lot Posts: 3,348	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!shielsy68 @shielsy68
	Jan 21, 2021 21:14:37 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	great work as always norman keep it up


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adybish Part of things Posts: 71	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!adybish @adybish
	Jan 21, 2021 21:33:04 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Keep up the good work Norman. It looks like it’s coming on great from here. Another vote for seam sealer over filler, and preferably tiger seal if you can get it - it’s good stuff!


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Norman Part of things Posts: 449	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!Norman @90989
	Jan 25, 2021 19:01:15 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Todays progress, i had the rest of the wheel tub to fill in. I had to make a small repair piece to tie in two sections, it’s welded up now. The next section is the sill closing section. The wing repair panel had some damage, it’s obviously a pattern part. The sills are pattern as well and they don’t fit particularly well. I had to fit a filler piece, i tacked it it and it looked curse word. I redid the welds and ground them back and it looks better now. That’s me up to date again, i will need to finish off the bottom of wing and give the area a good tidy up. Originally on the car there were some remnants of metal fitted between the chassis leg and the rear of the sill. I don’t know if it’s a deflector plate to direct road dirt away from the recesses of the chassis or if it should be a short piece of chassis leg. I will try to find some pics on line and see how to proceed. I will be back to it tomorrow although it’s pretty cold in the garage. I tend to work with the door open which doesn’t help. OK as per usual please feel free to comment, offer advice etc. Norman .
	Last Edit: Jan 25, 2021 19:02:49 GMT by Norman

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shielsy68 Posted a lot Posts: 3,348	1963 Singer Vogue, seeing doors in my sleep!!!shielsy68 @shielsy68
	Jan 25, 2021 20:54:28 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	send me on your address ill send ye a good earth strap


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