ivangt6
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Feb 23, 2020 18:44:38 GMT
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It didn't dry darker Pretty annoyed with this product really. Its been down two days now. In some places it hasn't dried yet And in other places its flaking away already Ronseal garage floor paint. Does not do what it says on the tin. The 20 year old, half gone off stuff I used before needed white spirit to clean the brush and stank while going off. This Ronseal stuff is water washable, doesn't smell and also doesn't bl**dy work. Where it has gone off and not flaked away it seems to have largely soaked into the concrete and is paper thin whereas the old stuff seems quite smooth due to it going on so thick. For £30 odd quid it's very disappointing
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Dez
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Feb 23, 2020 19:10:53 GMT
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I had a similar experience with water based floor paint, it’s rubbish. Tried using a tin I already had and threw it away it was that bad. My mate got me a couple of big tins (20L I think) of proper good old style smelly polyurethane based stuff off his body shop supplier, and it was brilliant. I used a tin and a half so that was all he charged me for as he was redoing his floor at the same time so he used the excess, i think it came to about £70 so would be about 45 quid for a tin. It really went a long way though, covered far better than I was expecting and is still good 2 years later so really saved me money I think. I Poured it into an old linbin and put it on with a sweeping brush. I did have 2000squ.ft to cover though.
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ivangt6
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Feb 23, 2020 19:18:16 GMT
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DezI think that's what the two old tins I had must have been. I'm not sure whether to carry layering this water based rubbish on or to do the right thing and bin it and buy some polyurethane or even epoxy stuff. Hate paying good money for things to just bin them though
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urbanaw
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Feb 24, 2020 16:39:25 GMT
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Dez I think that's what the two old tins I had must have been. I'm not sure whether to carry layering this water based rubbish on or to do the right thing and bin it and buy some polyurethane or even epoxy stuff. Hate paying good money for things to just bin them though Are there any alternatives these days? I am going to have to go through the same process myself soon. I hate the thought of it, let alone the expense. I do not want to do it if it will not work. I am sorry, I know this will not help you much.
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I did my garage floor with some epoxy stuff, can't remember the name though. Gives a nice even surface and fills in uneven places very nicely. Holds up well, but the garage is mostly used as storage, so might not vouch for more intense tinkering usage.
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ivangt6
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Feb 25, 2020 20:24:57 GMT
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Dez I think that's what the two old tins I had must have been. I'm not sure whether to carry layering this water based rubbish on or to do the right thing and bin it and buy some polyurethane or even epoxy stuff. Hate paying good money for things to just bin them though Are there any alternatives these days? I am going to have to go through the same process myself soon. I hate the thought of it, let alone the expense. I do not want to do it if it will not work. I am sorry, I know this will not help you much. Epoxy or polyurethane based stuff seems to be the way to go
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ivangt6
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Feb 25, 2020 20:28:14 GMT
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Well I've given up with the floor for the moment as it's annoying me. The important thing is that it's painted and won't create dust like bare concrete floors normally do. And what better way to begin a relaxing evening in the workshop than by burning sh*t So. Fire on the go, dog harnessed away from said fire, let's make a start on this folding down bench idea.
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ivangt6
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Feb 25, 2020 20:55:50 GMT
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First up, how long is the garage vs the camper van? Do I actually need a fold down bench? Well the garage is 5m long The camper is 4569mm long So 431mm to spare. That's not a lot. Mulling it over I decided that a fold down bench would be a pain in the a**e not only to make, but it would probably be a bit wobbly to. Plan B is this. Although plan is a bit of a strong word. I made it up as I went along I started off with a ruined table Cut it in half Boshed some legs back on Marked up the wall and added some support for the back The plan is to drill 4 holes in the worktop for some bolt locks attached to the wooden supports on the wall. That way the benches are easily removable to be stowed somewhere else and sturdy. I don't have bolt locks yet so that's as far as I got before pancakes. Apart from attaching my old vice Next job is to hang this bit of crummy old chipboard to make a shadow board on the wall More soon
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Last Edit: Feb 25, 2020 21:40:18 GMT by ivangt6
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Feb 27, 2020 12:28:37 GMT
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on the subject of floor paint, having spent a fortune on floor paint in my old unit for it to look tatty in less than 12 months, I decided when building my garage at home to tile it. Best decision Ive made, antislip porcelain tiles, they have taken a beating with just 2 or 3 small marks (dropped a large trolley jack on one and a gearbox on another) the cost was a a lot less than having a company lay the commercial grade epoxy and looks great.
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Feb 27, 2020 14:19:48 GMT
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PVA glue watered down and the resulting solution applied liberally over the concrete floor using a soft domestic type of sweeping broom to push it about and ensure that all areas are thoroughly covered.
Leave the now wet area to dry out and there should not be a dust problem.
I was told about this trick by an old-school plaster; I have used it in various situations, to good effect.
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Feb 27, 2020 15:19:49 GMT
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When I built my current garage, i played with the concrete floor one times too many to get it smooth when the concrete was wet, so the result was a very dusty floor. If i had played anymore the concrete would have been scrap. I got away with it by using something called Bostik SBA from Screwfix. It is like the ultimate PVA glue but alot thinner so you don't have to water it down. It is used for things like making waterproof render mix and i've used it on damp walls to later paint over. Alot goes a long way. Use a cheap big fluffy roller and slosh it on the concrete and let it soak in and dry. You can then paint over it without it peeling up.
I have found in previous garages - new builds included, that even dedicated garage floor paint flakes up once car tyres stick to it. In other words it never properly sticks but creates a skin on top. Weirdly, my parents had an accident once where a shelf fell down in their garage and a tin of Dulux Peacock Blue wall emulsion spilt everywhere. It turned out to be the best garage floor paint because it soaked in to the concrete, and was matt so didnt stick to car tyres. We actually went and bought another tin to complete the rest of the floor!
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I will never paint a garage floor of my own again after my experience with a commercial grade floor paint and following the instructions to the letter. Looked great once finished but hot tyre pick up soon ruined that & the manufacturer said it was my fault for not allowing the concrete to dry out fully before painting. I think I had left it for around four months after the garage was weathertight before starting the paint prep process........ Tile for me from now on - a solid porcelain through body tile with a high slip resistance is what you need. The through body will not show chips if you do manage to damage the surface and boy are they tough! A decent quality grout properly applied really locks them in place followed by a couple of coats of sealer and that really helps to prevent oil & grease from getting embedded in to the grout. I just use a bucket of hot water with some flash in it to keep them clean.
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alecf
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If you want a decent floor paint that is reasonably priced then get this stuff, it definitely does not stick to tyres either. Floor paint
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Being a tight git I have put old carpet down in my garage. It's a two car garage in length so it has taken two carpets to cover most of it. One carpet is a very good all wool job, makes it a nice place to kneel or lie down on although at my age I try and not to do that too often.
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ivangt6
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If you want a decent floor paint that is reasonably priced then get this stuff, it definitely does not stick to tyres either. Floor paintThat looks like the stuff, cheers. Think I'm just going to slap down the stuff I've got just so it's all one colour. Most of the garage has the decent paint underneath. If needs be I'll l revisit in a few years.
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The tower bolts to hold the bench in position are now fitted. It's a nice and secure fit and they don't rattle, which is what I wanted. Undo them and the benches can be removed. Ideal. Next up was to hang the crappy bit of chipboard I've been drying out. Simple enough. That'll need painting white. The wall i chopped away was rough and loose at either end. It needed suring over with mortar. It's not particularly pretty but it's now all tied in together. Once it's dry I can board over it to make it look neat That was my first attempt at any sort of cement and I'm pretty happy how it's gone on. I got another 3 packets of loft boarding while I was out and I've got a bit more room upstairs And just because it was lying around and getting in my way, I hung my old gt6 wing, which I'm using to hang all my power tools That's about it for today. Its starting to look like a workshop!
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Last Edit: Mar 7, 2020 21:20:55 GMT by ivangt6
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Great thread and loving the imaginative use of the wing lol,
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MiataMark
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The use of the wing is great and I've git 2 old MX5 wings dumped at the end of the garden...
I've been thinking about a shadow board but I like to have my tools portable, maybe I need 2 sets.
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A few more jobs got done today. The shadow board got painted and a cupboard hung. Then I made a shelf and wired up the amp/receiver to the speakers. It's nice to have a bit of radio on in there While the paint was drying a load of stuff got moved upstairs. Then cracked on with the shadow board after earthing out all my spare spanners and sockets and a few other odds and ends that didn't really have a place elsewhere. There's a set of metric, AF and Whitworth spanners That's all for today
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Last Edit: Mar 8, 2020 20:01:46 GMT by ivangt6
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