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Apr 22, 2022 22:22:50 GMT
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Very nicely done your Alfa! Did you go to the RDW for the engine swap and is the Passat going to the RDW? I fitted a rover V8 to an MGB roadster which is more common then your engine change and had to go to the RDW which was not much of a problem in the end but it was 20 years ago. Peter Yeah, RDW was visited with the Giulia. Total cost under 100euros. Not a very big deal. Passat will be roadlegal as well so will need RDW approval. With a builddate before 1998 it's quite easy to get approved. |
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Apr 22, 2022 22:30:04 GMT
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Superb build. How did the wiring go on the Audi swap. I want to use an FSi V6, but i'm put off by the complexity. We're not that far yet😉 Will be a challenge but we have the complete loom and some friends that are quite handy with ecu's and rewriting them. A lot of curse word to erase i guess. As this is a rs5 engine it was mated to an automatic gearbox. We're using a rs4 manual gearbox. This is also very likely to cause some problems.. We'll solve the mechanical challenges first. If only we could find the time for it.🙁 |
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Apr 23, 2022 10:52:04 GMT
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Very nicely done your Alfa! Did you go to the RDW for the engine swap and is the Passat going to the RDW? I fitted a rover V8 to an MGB roadster which is more common then your engine change and had to go to the RDW which was not much of a problem in the end but it was 20 years ago. Peter Yeah, RDW was visited with the Giulia. Total cost under 100euros. Not a very big deal. Passat will be roadlegal as well so will need RDW approval. With a builddate before 1998 it's quite easy to get approved. That with the RDW sounds good. Its a quit unusual engine swap so i would expect a deeper investigation and more expensive. There seems to be a large difference between the RDW stations. Some are troublesom and some are easy. Keep up the good work anf the interesting posts
Peter
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Apr 24, 2022 13:45:11 GMT
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Superb build. How did the wiring go on the Audi swap. I want to use an FSi V6, but i'm put off by the complexity. We're not that far yet😉 Will be a challenge but we have the complete loom and some friends that are quite handy with ecu's and rewriting them. A lot of curse word to erase i guess. As this is a rs5 engine it was mated to an automatic gearbox. We're using a rs4 manual gearbox. This is also very likely to cause some problems.. We'll solve the mechanical challenges first. If only we could find the time for it.🙁 Let me know how it goes. I know some good Audi VW tuner guys, but the later stuff is pretty nuts |
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Apr 25, 2022 12:04:33 GMT
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Yeah, RDW was visited with the Giulia. Total cost under 100euros. Not a very big deal. Passat will be roadlegal as well so will need RDW approval. With a builddate before 1998 it's quite easy to get approved. That with the RDW sounds good. Its a quit unusual engine swap so i would expect a deeper investigation and more expensive. There seems to be a large difference between the RDW stations. Some are troublesom and some are easy. Keep up the good work anf the interesting posts
Peter
I went to the RDW in Groningen with my 1983 Datsun Laurel where I swapped in a 96 Nissan V8 and they loved it! It passed right away and cost only €60,-. |
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Apr 25, 2022 12:05:31 GMT
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I came across this Giula on Facebook and totaly love it!! I really like oddball swaps!!
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Apr 25, 2022 18:15:44 GMT
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I came across this Giula on Facebook and totaly love it!! I really like oddball swaps!! Where are you from? You're welcome to come see us at our hobbyshed.☺️ We're located near Nijmegen. We love unusual swaps as well.😉 Your car sounds like it would fit right in. We've got some v8s lying around as well😂 |
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Apr 25, 2022 20:01:30 GMT
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I'm from near Drachten but a little road trip is no problem!
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That with the RDW sounds good. Its a quit unusual engine swap so i would expect a deeper investigation and more expensive. There seems to be a large difference between the RDW stations. Some are troublesom and some are easy. Keep up the good work anf the interesting posts
Peter
I went to the RDW in Groningen with my 1983 Datsun Laurel where I swapped in a 96 Nissan V8 and they loved it! It passed right away and cost only €60,-. Nice that there are still car minded people at the RDW. I follow your thread too and like the quality of your work Peter
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Reaslly like this! saw you this morning, thumbs up (from an anonymous looking black A3)!!
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Apr 29, 2022 23:21:46 GMT
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Reaslly like this! saw you this morning, thumbs up (from an anonymous looking black A3)!! Ah, i was wondering who i might know with an A3😂. |
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Nice! Bet it's already a bit of a weapon without the extra power.
If torque's an issue (can't remember where the limit for the GS6-37DZ gearbox is, or the E36 diff), I think the ECU you have has the same functionality for torque limiting as my Jag one (although no idea where it gets its data from). The idea for mine I think will be to limit the low down torque to something manageable for my clutch (so I can tow) but hold the boost higher in the rev range to make more power.
Also, I know you've got a BMW diff in the back. What ratio is it? I know they go pretty low with the medium case jobbies, but you might already have that.
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Nice! Bet it's already a bit of a weapon without the extra power. If torque's an issue (can't remember where the limit for the GS6-37DZ gearbox is, or the E36 diff), I think the ECU you have has the same functionality for torque limiting as my Jag one (although no idea where it gets its data from). The idea for mine I think will be to limit the low down torque to something manageable for my clutch (so I can tow) but hold the boost higher in the rev range to make more power. Also, I know you've got a BMW diff in the back. What ratio is it? I know they go pretty low with the medium case jobbies, but you might already have that. From what I understand the torque is limited by the ECU using feedback from MAF or MAP (air mass), Crank Position Sensor for engine speed and Throttle position. |
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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Ah ok so it's just another way of presenting regular mapping rather than anything more fancy like a torque sensor in the gearbox somewhere.
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Yes. Well, I say yes as that's my understanding.
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Still learning...still spending...still breaking things!
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The 20v engine from the 156 uses edc16 and in the 156 torque is limited in the lower gears to stop excessive fwd wheelspin. For this it needs can communication with the abs ecu for the vehicle speed signal. Unfortunately i have no abs ecu so i can't feed the ecu a vss. Also means i can't het my cruise control to work.
With the mapping i had done the torque was limited a bit to save my gearbox. That's not hard to do apparently.
I actually used a smaller turbo to limit my performance,thinking that was a good idea while it would have been better to get the big turbo and just map less torque in.
The gs6-37dz can easily handle much more torque. Diff is the 188 model in a 2,56:1 ratio, e36 325tds. Driveline is strong enough now, especially since i have only 195 tyres and very low weight so grip in lower gears is limited.
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Ah ok so it's just another way of presenting regular mapping rather than anything more fancy like a torque sensor in the gearbox somewhere. Esp uses wheelspeed sensors to detect different speeds (spinning) and then limits torque. In lower gears torque is limited always. Ecu calculates gear with revs and wheelspeed. |
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Also last week i collected a donor Giulietta. I hope to start on my next project soon; Giulietta 1982 which will get a 2.4 20v jtd as well.😊 I plan on restoring the underside of the car, painting and improving all suspension parts. Engine compartment will also be made to look good. The donor car has a nice interior so that will go in. But the exterior will only get some repairs and owatrol to preserve the look😅 proper rat. Only picture i have available of it standing at my mate's yard.  |
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