ZXRob
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Just spent yesterday evening and this morning having a read through this thread and have to say, keep it up man. I saw the picture of it when you got it and thought it looked a bit tatty but now with the bits you have done it looks amazing. I am a mechanic and currently work for Ford but sadly in Germany. Can check all original part numbers though if you want and any advice you need give me a shout. Totally unrelated but (if you are the guy next to Billy Bragg in your photo) I saw you play in Cologne in 2017! Was an awesome show! It was definitely tatty when I got it. Excited to get more into the cosmetic part of this car . Really want to get a vinyl roof and debating putting the brown Ghia interior in there . Will give you a shout if I need part numbers for ford bits ! Yeah that was me with Billy ! I’ve played with him for around 6 years now. Not doing a lot this year but he always takes the mick out of me for having a 70s hair cut so I’m sure the Capri will come up in on stage banter . Come and say hi if you see me on a gig out there. Was a great gig! I have never seen a set that was so long but felt so short! The guy played for around 2 hours or more! My mechanic skills are way better than my guitar skills but I try my best. I play in a heavily Billy Bragg influenced duo! (We even do A New England and To Have To Have Not!) But it will always just be a hobby.
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cjhillman
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rickygolf83
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Mk2 Golf 8v & 16v, VR6, Nova Antibes, Mk4 1.8t & mk4 Gt Tdi 130
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Good progress man, i think the blue tac is heat sink putty.
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cjhillman
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ahh cheers! yeah i guessed it was supposed to be there but had no clue why.
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Get some Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80 and get it on those flaps before you fit the foam of get better flaps before they fall to bits.
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cjhillman
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I wasnt sure weather to do anything with them to be honest. What kind of foam would be best? I did notice some had replaced the flaps (i think) but a decent quick fix would do me on these
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With everything you have done to get the heater box out and to this stage don't dick about do a proper job of it now so you don't have to do it again in Dec when you need the heater, you will save you self time later on when you are busier.
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With everything you have done to get the heater box out and to this stage don't dick about do a proper job of it now so you don't have to do it again in Dec when you need the heater, you will save you self time later on when you are busier. That. Capri heater fans are common failures, so spend the £50 and fit a new one. Replacing the foam seals is a good idea too. This will make the heater a lot more effective, and you won't regret it.
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cjhillman
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With everything you have done to get the heater box out and to this stage don't dick about do a proper job of it now so you don't have to do it again in Dec when you need the heater, you will save you self time later on when you are busier. That. Capri heater fans are common failures, so spend the £50 and fit a new one. Replacing the foam seals is a good idea too. This will make the heater a lot more effective, and you won't regret it. Your both right and earlier today i ordered new 2mm foam and will get that in there soon. Do you mean the Fan its self? do the blades shatter or something ? I'm trying my best to not cut corners for sure as I want it to be right, Just trying to keep costs down but your right 100%. I'm struggling to find what i now realise is the missing bit to my glove box light. Anyone have one or know what bulb or holder I'm missing. One pic i've seen (bellow) looks like the bulb goes into a metal holder but i cant find any more pics of this anywhere. For some reason pervious owners have taped up one terminal and left the plastic lamp lens dangling off the other.... any reason why refitting this could cause something weird to happen haha? AS you can see here its taped up on the terminal. The black wire is attached to the lens
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Ba9s bayonet bulb holder, more commonly replaced with a soft rubber R501 or W5W holder due to the larger variety of bulbs available. Most commonly used as front pilot or sidelights on Fords, also used as instrument and glovebox / footwell lights. I'd go with LED's simply as they use less current, less strain on the wiring loom and a brighter light. I know I had some knocking around the shop as I've used them for projects. I'll see if I have one tomorrow. Test first, glovebox light is on the sidelight / instrument circuit normally.
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Last Edit: Jun 4, 2019 21:44:17 GMT by Rebuilda
1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR 1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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Cool build man. Lots of useful info. I'd love a capri so I'm quite envious!
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Mk2 Golf 16V resto
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What colours are the two wires attached to the loom?
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1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR 1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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cjhillman
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Here are the wires going to the loom: And these are the wires from the glove box: Both bullet connecters were together when i pulled it apart and the flat terminal was connected to the bulb lense, nothing connected the other side and the taped up blue terminal was already like that. I'll check the manual when i get time too i just rushed these pics before going to work. I'm wondering how the pics i found online would work with thse colour wires. nothing seems to be the same.
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Those two wires on the glovebox go to the switch on the door, so that the light only comes on when its opened. Brown will go to the loom and black to the light. The red wire on the light will go to a switched live somwehere
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Too many projects, not enough time.
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Light grey is part of the sidelight circuit. shouldn't go live until the light switch is on. Brown is passive earth but may earth through a switch. Test conditions should be BROWN - short to earth at all times OR through glove box door switch. GREY - live when sidelight circuit is on but also may be activated by glove box door switch.
Sidelights and instrument lights are usually light grey with a yellow tracer so this feed may come from the fuse box bypassing the sidelights altogether. Take a look at the instrument light feed (should also be grey or grey with yellow tracer)
There is also a possibility this is fed from the interior light supply, check the colour of the wires to the interior light, one should be brown (probably a switched earth) and one isn't (power).
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1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR 1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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cjhillman
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Jun 14, 2019 19:27:49 GMT
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Just an update on where i'm at before i connect up tomorrow! I managed to get out and connected up a cig lighter to the two Red and Brown wires . Red i connected to the bullet (via the block which i'm told is ok!?) and brown spade connector. I also bought a bulb from the auto electrics store and added a wire back into the car which I'm guessin should be the live? The black wire goes on the other side of the bulb holder (not connected yet) I also started checking/ tiding up the radio ISO block. It looks like i have a Black Earth that must have been connected to the stereo chassis as it doesnt look like its come from the ISO Black wire... although this would be do the same thing right? The Red seems to go to the Red on the car which fills me with more confidence and the Yellow goes to the permeant live. The speaker wiring seems to be all the wrong colours but as i remember worked fine for the limited time i heard the stereo. My main concern here is there was some melted tape on top of one of the speaker connecters... would there be enough power in the speaker wires to melt this? I thought about connecting the battery with just the Cig lighter first and test that will charge a phone or something, then the glove box then connect the heater blower up and test that.... does this seem the right way to do it? I'm thinking if i connected it all back up, turn it on and smell burning I'm not going to know where to start looking?? although i understand having just one thing connected might cause more load somewhere else? Any thought before i throw the switch haha? only worried as someone has been obviously chasing something before to remove these items.
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Jun 14, 2019 22:12:16 GMT
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One step at a time is always good when working with possibly faulty wires. Have you bought a test lamp or multimeter yet?
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Last Edit: Jun 14, 2019 22:12:35 GMT by Rebuilda
1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR 1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2 DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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cjhillman
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Jun 15, 2019 17:36:59 GMT
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One step at a time is always good when working with possibly faulty wires. Have you bought a test lamp or multimeter yet? I've got a multimeter but just a little unsure how to work with it to be honest. At the moment there are no fuses in the fuse box and the battery is off at the moment. Havent had time to work on the car today just the heater box so still havent got round to trying the electrics.
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Jun 15, 2019 19:55:59 GMT
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With the fuses pulled and the battery off the first test would be 'short to earth'. Set the meter for beep test or resistance (lowest setting) connect the black wire on the meter to a good chassis earth and prod the wires with the red probe. If it beeps or shows a low reading then its probably an earth wire. No beep and it'll probably go live when its all reconnected and the relevant switch is operated. ANYTHING not brown or black that beeps will need to be investigated. If the car was running before you started investigating the faults then most of the loom is probably sound. Have you got a haynes manual for it or a wiring diagram?
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cjhillman
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Jun 15, 2019 21:02:44 GMT
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With the fuses pulled and the battery off the first test would be 'short to earth'. Set the meter for beep test or resistance (lowest setting) connect the black wire on the meter to a good chassis earth and prod the wires with the red probe. If it beeps or shows a low reading then its probably an earth wire. No beep and it'll probably go live when its all reconnected and the relevant switch is operated. ANYTHING not brown or black that beeps will need to be investigated. If the car was running before you started investigating the faults then most of the loom is probably sound. Have you got a haynes manual for it or a wiring diagram? Cheers for this. will set it to the resistance/beep setting and give it all a good test. It is something i want to get better at and understand more. I do have a haynes manual which i was checking stuff with. Only played attention to the cig lighter and it had a black and red wire going to it just hard to figure which way it would go round but i'm guessing the sold bullet connector wouldnt be for an Earth haha.
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