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Jun 15, 2019 21:06:48 GMT
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There will be a moment of satisfaction every time you turn the heater on and it works  I'm still surprised that my 'built in a shed' toy car can do what it does, it produces a grin inside that people who don't do things mechanical will just never understand. Every destination reached without a breakdown is an achievement. |
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1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR
1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT
1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2
1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2
DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting
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cjhillman
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Jun 17, 2019 22:08:49 GMT
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ok so it all works!!!! i started off with the Cigar lighter which works and chargers my phone ( did have a video of this all but just photos for now)  (no illumination yet as it doesnt fit the casing ) Iterior light works! but doesnt work with the doors. I think somebody must have disconected these maybe when doing the wings. the drivers door has one but the passenger door doesnt hasnt got a switch.  Heres the fan connected up! All working fine except the high speed is a bit sticky! i think this is the switch though.  This is the only thing that doesnt work. I tested conections and the non bullet light coloured (I'm colour blind) wire as an earth. I guess i might have this the wrong way round but it didnt light before. Will investigage this tomorrow after fitting the blower back.  Very happy with how this went! gave me a lot of confidence with the car although after this i might get a local garage to check out the body work before i go deeper. |
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cjhillman
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Jun 18, 2019 14:27:35 GMT
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Today i added some extra foam around the edge of the heater box before refitting it and and then stuck it in the car! These cables were a bit of a pain to get back in. The bottom one wouldnt line up with the controls and it took a while to figure out the clamp on the side of the box enables it to return which was my main problem.  The bolts were fiddly but it finely was all in  bit of an extension was needed for one wire as the pervious owner must have shortened it.  DIY engine foam  Also trying to track this down. water is getting in somewhere and part of me wonders if its from the sunroof and traveling down the inside. any capri people know of this being a common leak?  |
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Last Edit: Jun 18, 2019 21:03:59 GMT by cjhillman
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cjhillman
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After a week of being busy/Glastonbury festival etc i thought i should try get this thing started! The experiment didnt last long as the battery is turning the car over too slow now so need to recharge it but, the last couple of times i've attempted to start all it will do is crank over and over but no signs of jumping into life. Also the battery leads are getting pretty hot after a few attempts, is this normal?? i've never noticed this on a car before. when i say hot i mean it would burn you if you didnt let it cool down. My first idea is to put an inline fuel filter in just before the carb but I thought id double check i'm putting it on the right one? I'm guessing it is one with the brass type pipe coming out the side of the Carb? (this goes down to the bottom of the car) The other pipe coming off (just below the silver weber tag) heading down toward the bottom right of the photo also seems to be a fuel line but goes into something else below the distributor before heading off to the bottom of the wing panel with the previous pipe. Cant find any info in the Haynes on these pipes just the carb its self.  Secondly i guess i need to check for spark. I thought it might be good to use one of these as I'm not sure how keen i am on touching the plug against the engine test (maybe I'm being a wimp) Any thoughts?  The annoying thing is about an month and half ago it fired up fine and i drove it around the block then shut it off. Now it doesnt want to fire so i'm really betting on it being fuel, especially as it used to run rough before and cut out. |
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ZXRob
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I guess it is a Manual fuel pump on this. They don't like standing for longer periods. Get a bit of easy start and get a mate/your lads/a helpful neighbour to turn it over whilst having his/her foot down on the accelerator and you give it a bit of a squirt into the carb. I see it's got a K and N filter so you can spray directly into that or take it off and spray carefully into the carb. Don't put your head over the top it may backfire and I am not sure how BB feels about eyebrow-less guitarists!
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Last Edit: Jul 5, 2019 4:39:52 GMT by ZXRob
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On my carburetted cars, the fuel supply to the carb was the one on the right side in your picture, the one below the weber tag.
On the underside of the inlet, yuo can see a large brass nut. If you remove this you will see a filter, this might be clogged.
The fuel hose goint to the left, above the fuel inlet, is the overflow to tank. I see it is plugged. If you have a manual pump it should be mounted on the side of the engine close to the distributor. and the hose on the right side in the picture should be connected to it. If yoy have an electric pump it might be installed somwhere else. This "something else" where the fuel lines meet, might be a valve configuration. On some Fords, the carburettor only had one inlet, and no overflo. The valve figuration on the side of the engine compartment would let fuel back to the tank when a certain pressure was achieved. This would allow the pump to pump freely on idle when the needle valve in the carburettor was shut(full float bowl).
I would install an inline filter, it is a cheep insurance against dirt in the nozzles.
I don't think you need this ignitinon test thing, just unscrew the plug and lay it against the manifold and have somone crank it over while ou watch for sparks.
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cjhillman
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On my carburetted cars, the fuel supply to the carb was the one on the right side in your picture, the one below the weber tag. On the underside of the inlet, yuo can see a large brass nut. If you remove this you will see a filter, this might be clogged. The fuel hose goint to the left, above the fuel inlet, is the overflow to tank. I see it is plugged. If you have a manual pump it should be mounted on the side of the engine close to the distributor. and the hose on the right side in the picture should be connected to it. If yoy have an electric pump it might be installed somwhere else. This "something else" where the fuel lines meet, might be a valve configuration. On some Fords, the carburettor only had one inlet, and no overflo. The valve figuration on the side of the engine compartment would let fuel back to the tank when a certain pressure was achieved. This would allow the pump to pump freely on idle when the needle valve in the carburettor was shut(full float bowl). I would install an inline filter, it is a cheep insurance against dirt in the nozzles. I don't think you need this ignitinon test thing, just unscrew the plug and lay it against the manifold and have somone crank it over while ou watch for sparks. Cheers for the advice ! will check that filter. I'm wondering if i need another fuel pump as it does go down to that just bellow the dizzy like you say. Sometimes you pull up to lights and it cuts out and then after running for a while its fine. I assumed the pump would be in the tank but maybe I'm thinking of more modern cars? Your probably right about the ignition test i just didnt want to get a blast off the plug when cranked haha |
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I guess it is a Manual fuel pump on this. They don't like standing for longer periods. Get a bit of easy start and get a mate/your lads/a helpful neighbour to turn it over whilst having his/her foot down on the accelerator and you give it a bit of a squirt into the carb. I see it's got a K and N filter so you can spray directly into that or take it off and spray carefully into the carb. Don't put your head over the top it may backfire and I am not sure how BB feels about eyebrow-less guitarists! I'm thinking it might be best to get a new pump as its so temperamental with cutting out anyway. is there anyway of testing these? I also need to check the auto choke but i don't really understand them yet haha. its all a learning curve! Will be carful haha BB told me to not slide over the bonnet as we have gigs to do  Hope your enjoying the Escort mate! I think i need to do front suspension bushes or struts on mine. getting a creak on one side. Will be watching your thread dude! |
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I think I have a NOS fuel pump to fit this. I can check on monday. Some had replaceable diaphragms so that may be an option.
I think they should be available as it was such a common engine up to the late 80's.
Easy test is to disconnect the inlet pipe from the carb and feed it into a jam jar then crank the engine over.
Fitting a cheap inline fuel filter before the pump will protect the pump and carb from tank poo or fuel line debris. If it's the original ford fuel line it could have started suffering with modern fuel running through it.
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Last Edit: Jul 6, 2019 0:37:21 GMT by Rebuilda
1988 DUTTON LEGERRA MK1 - SPARES DONOR
1989 DUTTON LEGERRA MK2 - CURRENT PROJECT
1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2
1990 DUTTON LEGERRA ZS MK2
DUTTON PHAETON S2 - Resting
DUTTON PHAETON S4 - Resting
DUTTON PHAETON S4 - PROJECT X
DUTTON SIERRA S2 - Resting
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cjhillman
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I think I have a NOS fuel pump to fit this. I can check on monday. Some had replaceable diaphragms so that may be an option. I think they should be available as it was such a common engine up to the late 80's. Easy test is to disconnect the inlet pipe from the carb and feed it into a jam jar then crank the engine over. Fitting a cheap inline fuel filter before the pump will protect the pump and carb from tank poo or fuel line debris. If it's the original ford fuel line it could have started suffering with modern fuel running through it. If you have one hanging around dude let me know. I think it might be worth changing and they seem pretty available if not. Still haven’t got around to testing the pump yet with being busy and heading away for a few days. Will do as soon as I get 5 mins though. Really can’t wait to get this running again. I sold the original wheels to a lad on Friday who mentioned upgrading the carb to a twin Webber and upgrading the ignition system to a racing one... got me thinking. |
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It could be the fuel pump it could also be the ignition as you have been in the loom recently if you have the ballasted ignition system and it's not connected properly that would make a big difference as it would crank but not have enough for the ignition.
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cjhillman
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It could be the fuel pump it could also be the ignition as you have been in the loom recently if you have the ballasted ignition system and it's not connected properly that would make a big difference as it would crank but not have enough for the ignition. Yeah that’s my next port of call if fuel seems ok. It does have the ballest but someone’s apparently by passed this in the past, I’m guessing it didn’t work . Thinking of upgrading this system in the future as it’s a Sierra dizzy/module at the moment . |
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That would be a good move but get the whole new Dizzy from Burton Power don't mess about with just fitting components as you don't know if the individual parts condition would not be know.
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Jul 11, 2019 17:53:18 GMT
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Jul 11, 2019 18:23:01 GMT
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Might be worth checking the line to the tank is clear first, I usually blow back through it.
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Jul 11, 2019 18:42:38 GMT
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You just blow down it ? Will try have a go at gettin the bottom line off soon. Should I see fuel if all is well?
Also I’m sure it wouldn’t but during our experiment my mrs didn’t give it any gas. That wouldn’t make any difference of course ?
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Jul 11, 2019 19:05:42 GMT
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While you're fiddling around with the carb, it's worth reinstating the return to the tank that's got the bolt in it.
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Jul 11, 2019 20:11:20 GMT
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You just blow down it ? Will try have a go at gettin the bottom line off soon. Should I see fuel if all is well? Also I’m sure it wouldn’t but during our experiment my mrs didn’t give it any gas. That wouldn’t make any difference of course ? I would normally find a bit of tube the right size to go in the hose and blow into this, if fuel starts running out you fuel line is clear so no point blowing backwards. |
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Rob
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Jul 11, 2019 20:36:13 GMT
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if its cranking slow and the leads get super hot, replace the engine to body earth with a big chunky one. then check the main battery earth.
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Hope your enjoying the Escort mate! I think i need to do front suspension bushes or struts on mine. getting a creak on one side. Will be watching your thread dude! 
