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Jan 18, 2018 13:34:25 GMT
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Hi guys, looking to get the crossflow in my mk2 Cortina swapped out for either a Zetec or Duratec (undecided yet due to lack of knowledge!). My knowledge and expertise is limited to say the least with anything like this so I'm looking for a garage/company who will be willing to carry out the swap for me. I've been calling a lot of parts suppliers and a number of known workshops asking if they could do it or know of anyone that can and I'm hitting a brick wall.
I see these engines in old fords all the time but just can't seem to find the right professional who can do it for me.
Any names or leads would be a great help. Had the car for a year now and looking to get the engine swap and body sorted this year so would appreciate the help.
thanks.
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Jan 18, 2018 13:35:08 GMT
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steveg
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Jan 18, 2018 14:11:35 GMT
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That looks a tidy one, like the wheels.
Not sure if it's any better finding someone local to you but where you are might help with some suggestions.
I only have limited knowledge of Fords but would expect the biggest difficulty would be sorting out the wiring unless you plan on using carburettors. Will you be uprating the suspension and brakes ? I think these have steering boxes so a steering rack conversion might be worthwhile and might even make finding a suitable cross member and engine mounts a bit easier.
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Jan 18, 2018 20:07:08 GMT
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Yeah it’s had a few people look at it when it’s had work done and all have said it’s solid. Just passed its MOT with no advisories so can’t be bad!
Wheels are from North Hants Tyres which fit well with a little arch roll. It’s also just had a full suspension set up from Alan Dent in Norwich with new steering rack and coil overs. Handles well now.
I’ve tried a number of places locally and further a field but still struggle to find anyone that can help. Masses of these conversions have been done and there are lots of parts suppliers specifically catering for them, but I need someone with more knowledge than me to convert it for me.
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Jan 18, 2018 23:44:57 GMT
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Chester Sportscars do these swaps. Drive in drive out service but be prepared to pay!
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Top man nudgerss!! thanks. I'll give them a shout.
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Jan 19, 2018 17:14:45 GMT
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If you can find someone who does mk1 & 2 escort zetec conversions the Cortina is very similar.
I would also consider a MX5 engine/box as a cheaper alternative.
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Jan 19, 2018 17:45:58 GMT
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are you from or near SE London at all? seen one drive past me with my old fords exactly like that ! I have put a few zetecs in old fords now. pretty easy to do yourself. could guide you through what I know ? more than happy to help.
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Jan 19, 2018 19:56:28 GMT
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Chester Sports cars are not doing the conversions anymore! AAAARHH!!
Where abouts are you slammage?? I am indeed SE!
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Jan 20, 2018 21:18:26 GMT
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Chester Sports cars are not doing the conversions anymore! AAAARHH!! Where abouts are you slammage?? I am indeed SE! heath of Bexley. belive it was you that waved when I had my mk1 on the drive. zetec conversions are easy but budget around 1.5k-2k for a 'budget install'  |
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Jan 20, 2018 21:58:49 GMT
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Before you talk to a professional it is a good idea to prepare a spec of exactly what you want, what engine, gearbox, fuel injection or carbs, used or re-built units etc also are you going to stop at the engine, are you going to change to escort or capri steering/suspension, bigger brakes etc.
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Jan 20, 2018 21:59:52 GMT
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That’s right. You’re on the hill just round the corner from my mum and dads. Small world!!
If I can get a conversion done for that money then I’ll be happy.
Maybe I’ll give you a shout when I’m passing for a quick chat?
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Jan 20, 2018 22:06:00 GMT
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To be honest Kevins all I want is something a bit more reliable that I can use more often. The crossflow is ok but with the twin Weber’s is constantly out of sorts.
It’s got a type 9 and had a new subframe, steering rack, and suspension set up and had the front struts converted to coil overs so it handles ok. I’ve been away from classics for sometime to finding my feet again, so probably need more advice on what I need to achieve what I want......if that makes sense.
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Jan 20, 2018 22:28:59 GMT
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That’s right. You’re on the hill just round the corner from my mum and dads. Small world!! If I can get a conversion done for that money then I’ll be happy. Maybe I’ll give you a shout when I’m passing for a quick chat? er my drives on a slope lol I don't reside on a hilly part of my road without giving too much away on a public forum ha but I think you got it right pal yeah feel free to if you manage to catch a rare sight of me working on the drive but I could get a zetec in a escort or my Cortina for that easily, its not too hard. especially if you can weld and fabricate as for a mk2 theres not a lot of off the shelf stuff sadly. |
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Jan 20, 2018 22:42:29 GMT
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Ability is what I lack slammage. I can unbolt things and bolt them up again but welding, fabrication and engine swaps is not my skill set.
I’ll watch out for you on the drive.
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Jan 20, 2018 22:55:09 GMT
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Ability is what I lack slammage. I can unbolt things and bolt them up again but welding, fabrication and engine swaps is not my skill set. I’ll watch out for you on the drive. shame ive not got a little unit to do one of jobs I would offer! but life is to blame here ha. done all my work out on the drive/street till recently. The only things needing making really are engine mounts and adapting a gearbox mount / maybe tunnel if not series 2 shell for a 5 speed. the sump you can use a silvertop 1.8 one with a bit of shaving . rest is a case of what fueling or carbs you are using, exhaust (again use an escort Ashely or a 105 speed or a piper item and adapt a system on. run it on a nodiz ecu. simplest and best way nowdays. plus you can tune it in its 3d map mode. hope that helps a little. theres loads of advice out there but most is not tried and tested or just want you to buy off the shelf items which is good from some not so good from others. me personally would try to find a good 1.8 silvertop lump as they can be 130bhp standard, and plus you got the correct sump to modify to fit to suit standard Cortina susp. if you got escort based use an escort rwd sump from retro ford or a guy called neil dunne. 5 speed box, rx8 box I wouldn't bother with as you wont have a speedo working with and 1st gear is useless. get a set of bike carbs from bogg brothers( masters of bike carbs on car engines) or danST on ebay as well. webbers make sure you have a 5 progression hole carbs as trust me the standard twin carbs with 3 prog holes do not cut it you get flat spots all over the place . this should help you out, saves you waitng a few years for me to appear on my driveway again. I try to avoid it as I get sick of the attention! |
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Last Edit: Jan 20, 2018 22:57:23 GMT by slammage
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Jan 21, 2018 13:30:37 GMT
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Thanks slammage for the advice. I may start to pick up a few bits along the way and have a go at it myself. What’s the worse that can happen😳😳
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Jan 21, 2018 13:40:03 GMT
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As a matter of interest what size are the wheels?
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1953 Minor (Long term project)
PT Cruiser
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Jan 21, 2018 13:47:43 GMT
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The wheels are 7x15. Can’t remember the tyre size at the moment but will let you know. I’m not with the car right now although I think they are 165/55. Either way the outside diameter is pretty much the same as when it left the factory on 13”. It’s lowered around 2 inches at the front and 1.5 inches at the back. Only some slight rubbing now and again but when the bodywork gets done the arches will be rolled. Got them from North Hants Tyres in plain steel and had them powder coated. Moon cap centres.
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Jan 21, 2018 14:37:28 GMT
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Maybe consider getting a fully mapped engine management installation to bolt onto the original engine. Personally I'm not a fan of carburettors either. Or original 1970s ignition systems. Both unreliable and neither is capable of getting the best from the engine. I'm assuming your current engine is a 1.6 X-flow? You could probably get 140hp from that relatively easily with bolt-on parts. A race cylinder head from Burton Power might do that? www.burtonpower.com/cyl-head-race-1600e-unleaded-pch052un.html I'll admit I'm pretty clueless when it comes to the intricacies of fords. But generic principles apply and this sort of modification has become very popular on classic cars over the last 10 to 15 years. At the end of the day the concept of a gasoline 4-stroke combustion engine hasn't changed much in 100 years. Crankshaft, cylinders, pistons, intake and exhaust valves. Only small advances have been made over the decades. There are some advantages to keeping the original engine. Primarily that the development work has already been done by Ford back in the 70s meaning that all the parts work together and have already been tuned, all you'd be doing is tweaking rather than a fundamental redesign and that is a lot less likely to disappoint. Here is a well known company who sell a bolt-on ECU conversion kit. omextechnology.co.uk/Omex%20General%20TB%20Kit%20v4_10.pdf www.omextechnology.co.ukBut if you didn't want to go for the Omex then there are many other ECU suppliers. Emerald is one example: www.emeraldm3d.com/If you do decide to go this route then I'd suggest you aim for a coil-on-plug setup if you can get one. |
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