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Does anyone have any suggestions for fast and/or interesting cars that can squeeze in before the car tax hike of 2001 onwards for bigger engined cars kicks in?
Under £3k
No diesels due to imminent tax pillaging possibilities!
I'm thinking Audi TT, Bmw 3-series inc. convertible, Audi A3/s3 etc, basically as new as possible to get in before 2001.
Cheers.
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b3nson
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Audi A8/S8 or BMW 7 series with much lows and nice wheels
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'99 Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo
'08 Panda 100HP
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Not a massive difference until 2006 as it stops at a max of £305.
So don't rule out some newer stuff without checking the ved rate first.
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Last Edit: Nov 22, 2017 9:34:48 GMT by joem83
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Nov 22, 2017 11:16:07 GMT
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Jez
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Nov 22, 2017 13:09:34 GMT
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I was going to suggest a 330i! Partly because I daily one myself (I know, I know, buy what I've got!). But seriously, they make a great daily for the retro car enthusiast. It's modern enough to be safe and convenient (ABS, airbags, A/C, ISOfix, remote locking etc.) and can still look respectable in good condition. They're also very reliable. But the driving experience is very analogue and far removed from new cars (communicative controls, awesome handling, that noise). Mine is on 170k, uses lots of oil, average 29mpg over 18 months (calculated, not what the display says) and I love it.
Other suggestions - Audi TT (225bhp), mk1 Octavia vRS, Seat Leon Cupra R, Mondeo ST220, would a Clio 2.0 16v meet the criteria?
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1990 VW Golf GTI G60
2014 Skoda Octavia RS
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Nov 22, 2017 13:16:35 GMT
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Accord type r
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Nov 22, 2017 13:17:07 GMT
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Impreza
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Nov 22, 2017 13:17:54 GMT
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saab turbo.
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Battenberg
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Nov 22, 2017 13:25:13 GMT
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XK8
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Current Fleet:
1968 Wolseley 1000
2022 BMW 430xd MHT Coupe
2007 L200 Animal - Dog walking transport
1998 318is Coupe
2007 Mini Cooper Supercharged
1989 BMW 530 - in storage
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adam73bgt
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Nov 22, 2017 13:34:07 GMT
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 Saab 9-3 Aero, 2.0 turbo which is easily mappable to around 250bhp as a start.. I had a love/hate relationship with mine as I bought a bad example to start with so it was an uphill battle, but a well sorted one would be a bit of a riot. Not the most refined chassis by any means but when the boost came on, it put a grin on your face  Or seek out a 3 door Viggen model for extra future classic points, these got the 2.3 engine from the 9-5 so offer even more power  |
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Nov 22, 2017 13:50:00 GMT
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This is a great shout. Absolutely amazing cars to drive, that LSD means you can take any corner at any speed.  Hell of a lot of car for the money. |
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Last Edit: Nov 22, 2017 13:51:05 GMT by dbizzle
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VIP
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Nov 22, 2017 14:40:36 GMT
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No diesels due to imminent tax pillaging possibilities! Irrelevant, pre-2001 falls into PLG tax bands which can't be separated into Petrol and Diesel as the data isn't there regarding emissions. Any VED changes will be solely for new build vehicles which aren't compliant with the latest Euro(x) spec. |
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ChasR
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Nov 22, 2017 14:44:28 GMT
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I'd go with a good 9-3 myself or something Toyota based if you can escape the tinworm. As dbizzle can confirm you'll need more than £3k to get a TT that's not a moneypit. I had a budget of £2.5k not too long ago and almost every one I saw drive worse than my Mondeo V6 at the time with 250k on the clock and that's before I hit the other issues they had ; the people were getting rid of them for precisely that reason ; they had neglected them. E46 328i or 330i is a great shout. The engines are generally good as is the drivetrain. Subframe & boot floors can give issues but there are plenty of kits out there to alleviate this. As for others? -306 GTi-6 ; IMHO these are one to watch -Clio 172/182 ; 205 GTi performance and fun with more solidity and more toys for a better day to day experience. Your budget will get you a very good one. -Mondeo ST220 FWIW £60 a year separates the tax difference between my W124 250D & my M3. |
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fad
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Nov 22, 2017 14:47:45 GMT
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Saab 900 turbo
Skoda Octavia VRS
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Nov 22, 2017 14:51:44 GMT
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As dbizzle can confirm you'll need more than £3k to get a TT that's not a moneypit. I had a budget of £2.5k not too long ago and almost every one I saw drive worse than my Mondeo V6 at the time with 250k on the clock and that's before I hit the other issues they had ; the people were getting rid of them for precisely that reason ; they had neglected them. True - I paid £3,500 for a 2001 TT 225 recently and I've had to spend another couple of grand on it since just getting it all up to snuff (cambelt, water pump, service, tyres, suspension, brakes etc). It's easily possible to find a TT under £3k, but that won't be all you'll be spending. |
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fad
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Nov 22, 2017 14:55:44 GMT
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As dbizzle can confirm you'll need more than £3k to get a TT that's not a moneypit. I had a budget of £2.5k not too long ago and almost every one I saw drive worse than my Mondeo V6 at the time with 250k on the clock and that's before I hit the other issues they had ; the people were getting rid of them for precisely that reason ; they had neglected them. True - I paid £3,500 for a 2001 TT 225 recently and I've had to spend another couple of grand on it since just getting it all up to snuff (cambelt, water pump, service, tyres, suspension, brakes etc). It's easily possible to find a TT under £3k, but that won't be all you'll be spending. TT that price is good for donor and breaking, that's it. The engine will have survivied and isn't too bad to rebuild if you are going to chuck it into another car anyway, but to run one? No ta! |
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Nov 22, 2017 16:29:38 GMT
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Very interesting suggestions so far guys, thank you very much.
Other than the beemer of that shape/year the only car that tickled my fancy was the Accord Type R as I used to own that model Accord (not Type R) and it was a good car - very Q.car other than the rear spoiler iirc?
Buying anything other than N/A is a bit scary for me if I'm honest with myself. The Beemer is faster than anything I've owned before in standard mode and would be a great 0-70mph motorway car as I do quite a few 50 mile round trips on an A-road.
I'm not looking to modify anything - standard or not at all for me.
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Nov 22, 2017 16:55:14 GMT
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Get an Accord Type R and win at life, simple answer.
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fad
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Nov 22, 2017 17:05:15 GMT
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Very interesting suggestions so far guys, thank you very much. Other than the beemer of that shape/year the only car that tickled my fancy was the Accord Type R as I used to own that model Accord (not Type R) and it was a good car - very Q.car other than the rear spoiler iirc? Buying anything other than N/A is a bit scary for me if I'm honest with myself. The Beemer is faster than anything I've owned before in standard mode and would be a great 0-70mph motorway car as I do quite a few 50 mile round trips on an A-road. I'm not looking to modify anything - standard or not at all for me. Out of interest why does a forced induction motor scare you? |
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ChasR
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Nov 22, 2017 17:20:17 GMT
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Hell of a lot of car for the money.
