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Mar 12, 2017 20:10:33 GMT
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Some more on the 110... I made a start to getting the engine and gearbox out.  Opened up quite a large space under the bonnet in doing so.  And found it sits somewhat higher at the front end without the great weight of the engine sat above it.  Old engine and box sat on 'the jolly trolly', the earthly remains of a knackered old steam cleaner.  Clutch pedal box fitted with new master and slave cylinders, along with a fresh flexi hose.  I've also gotten hold of an adapter plate which allows the BMW to bolt up to a Rover V8 pattern gearbox.  And here's the V8 R380 (from an old Glover Webb Armoured 110) coupled up to a 1.66:1 high ratio LT230 (from an ex-MOD 110) to give the same gearing as the factory built M52 Defenders.  Some fettling to do during the week (including dropping £90 on a p38 Range Rover clutch plate to work with the BMW DMF) and I'm hopefully going to have it all sitting in the truck at some point next weekend. Stay tuned... |
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I have been pondering installing one of these engines in my 1997 Discovery. I was considering making it 2 wheel drive aswell.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:41:13 GMT
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So, payday arrived and money was spent on a clutch. First attempts to buy a genuine Valeo one to suit a diesel manual P38 Range Rover (at just over £100 inc VAT, the next best price was £108 plus VAT) went badly, so I ended up on the phone to Clutchfix, who sent me a suitable friction plate for £85 including VAT, delivery and a free sticker. I also visited a man with a lathe who whittled me a bit of steel bar down to fit in the end of the crank, and adding a hole in the middle to accommodate a Rover V8 spigot bush. Both are pictured below.  The bush and adapter fitted perfectly.  And with a bit of a clean up the clutch plate fitted the splines on the box.  The bellhousing needed a bit buffing out of the inside to clear the nose of the starter, which itself needed to be drilled out as the bolts now go through it into the adapter plate rather than through the bellhousing into the starter motor.  The exhaust manifolds needed a little tweaking to clear the adapter plate, and were then attached with a fresh set of nuts.  A bag of fresh bolts saw the flywheel bolted on, followed by the clutch, a new release bearing and with a bit of jiggling it all went together and bolted up.  Then it was hung on the end of a digger and sat in the car, where it made itself look right at home.  Manual gearbox might take a bit of getting used to again.  Engine bay is a bit tight on the passenger side and will need a bit of reorganising to make it all work, but all in all everything has fallen into place as if BMW actually designed this engine to be fitted into a Land Rover.  This week will mostly involve sorting the pipework (again a lot of it lines up perfectly) sorting the wiring, and putting the rest of the car back together around it all. Hoping that it will all be back together and running by the end of the weekend. The only thing I still need to outsource for it is having a suitable end for the power steering pump crimped onto the high pressure pipe. Can't wait to be able to drive it again, 6 weeks is far too long. |
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Mar 28, 2017 20:27:46 GMT
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I like this very much, and have always thought I'd like to give fitting one a go should the 3.5 in my 90 go pop.
Keep up the good work!
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Mar 29, 2017 20:02:01 GMT
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its real nice and different to see someone go the "modern" petrol route. my only exposure to the engine is my friends old 5 series touring with the 2.0 single vanos version. aside from age related vanos seal issue it was a fine engine, not terrible on fuel, smooth and sweet.
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More has happened. First off I out some petrol in the tank, which was chased with a new pump, the same part as used in early efi Range Rovers with a steel tank.  The header bottle was moved to the opposite side of the engine bay to allow the water pipework to be a bit neater, and indeed shorter.  Power steering pipe modified to suit the BMW pump, it could probably look nicer, but it works.  Did a little thinking about how to sort the live wiring under the bonnet, especially as Land Rovers don't have the provision for 'live posts' under the bonnet, so I bought a couple of these Mini exhaust mounts, at the obscene price of £3.49+VAT each.  It worked.  Water pipes made up and connected, radiator in, and filled with water. Wiring connected up etc. Looking good.  What comes next? A short video to document the occasion. It sounds pretty good. A short run up the farm road was rather encouraging, this thing is pretty lively. A bit of tidying up under the bonnet and a few more bits to bolt back on and it's road test time. |
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Looking and sounding good! What have you done with getting the exhaust all married together?
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I would best describe it as a couple of rough flanges chewed put of 6mm plate with the plasma cutter, and a few bits of old V8 pipes I had kicking around nailed together to mate it up to the back half of the V8 system that's been on there since the 4.2 went in.
I didn't take any pictures as once welded up it looked like it could have been used in one of those 'when you have a mate who is a fabricator' Memes.
It doesn't look so bad on the car, but in all honesty it would benefit from some manifolds modified to come further out from the engine and then turn downward to aim between the chassis rails and the front prop, which would make everything much neater.
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fantastic  gratz on getting it turn-key not teaching granny to suck eggs, but it sounds like its running on 4 or 5 to me, got a weird offbeat thrum to it and a bit stumbling on the pickup |
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Never mentioned this topic, but it's super!
Love the vid of the first run of the Rover, it's sounds aesome! And your reaction in the vid.... Pure passion hahaha.
Keep up the good work!
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Tazzy
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INSTANT Awesome!
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Finished it off a bit more today, wiring tidied up, air filter fitted and the rest of it put back together before a few miles to see what it's like.  Nice to see it in one piece again.  There's a few little things that will need sorting out, but in general it's all gone together pretty well, I'm also a bit limited as we're off with the caravan with it for a few days tomorrow. Baptism of fire for the engine, but I'm confident. |
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Very entertaining thread from start to finish! It's a shame that these Defenders are so expensive in the US... I'd love to have one like yours.
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'84 308 GTS /// '88 528e /// '88 M5 /// '89 944 Turbo /// '98 E430
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Love a Landie. And I especially like what you've done with yours. *MUST NOT LOOK AT EBAY*  |
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Apr 10, 2017 12:35:35 GMT
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So, 100 miles or so in and the gearbox has just shat 3rd and 4th.
curse word superb!!!
On the upside, the engine was working brilliantly.
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Apr 10, 2017 13:39:02 GMT
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Shame to hear about the gearbox
But loving the conversion
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Apr 10, 2017 18:32:11 GMT
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That engine fits in the bay so nicely! Are you using the R380 gearbox from a Discovery?
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Apr 10, 2017 21:22:50 GMT
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The box came out of a Northern Ireland 110.
The replacement will be a Tdi Discovery one modified suitably.
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Apr 11, 2017 16:03:40 GMT
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The box came out of a Northern Ireland 110. The replacement will be a Tdi Discovery one modified suitably. Modified to have the short bellhousing and better shifter location? |
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Koos
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Apr 11, 2017 17:35:27 GMT
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I'll drop the defender remote selector on the top, bellhousing are a straight swop, although I'll need to bore the spigot bearing out -3/4" to 7/8"- to suit
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gratz on getting it turn-key 
