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Sorry to hear that Fred,was only thinking about this one the other day and wondering if any progress had been made. Bit suprised you have no compression registering at all given the crude thumb test showed some compression at least. A cold test which is all you can do will give lower readings than warm but not that low ! Did you have the throttle open to allow air into the cylinders?
I've been thinking for a while now that someone has fitted a belt incorrectly on the car in the past and if that has happened then bent valves could certainly cause no compression.That said so could the belt being out to the point where the valves are open at the wrong time.Depends if it's an interference engine.
Sad to hear you are going to move it on,but i reckon you will find a buyer easily even as a non runner. You've been a bit unlucky really,most times you would have got a find like this running relatively easily.
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Dec 29, 2015 15:24:05 GMT
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Arghhh!
I told my OH that I would likely sell and she is insisting I keep it and don't give up, even offered to trailer it to hers (Carlisle) and store it at her stables until it can be figured out.
I really really don't want to give up on this damn thing but it's getting really frustrating. Been doing some googling today and it still seems it might be my camshaft which is horribly off timing, either that or 4x bent pistons.
I don't know if it's worth me getting a roaming mechanic to come and have a look for a few hours before I write the whole thing off. Hopefully he can identify bad timing better than I!
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Dec 29, 2015 15:32:53 GMT
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Get it stored at your lasses stables, ideally on a hardstanding so the floorpans don't end up screwed. Aside from the initial transportation cost, surely it won't cost you anything to have it sat for 12 months? That'll give you time to sort other more important things out, and the Passat will still be waiting for you when you're more flush. If you do go with this plan, make sure you squirt a little decent engine oil down in through each plug hole (and then briefly turn the engine over) so it's got a good coating in the bores.
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Dec 29, 2015 16:15:26 GMT
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Are you happy that the engine timing is correct? If not this could show low compression maybe.
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Dec 29, 2015 16:55:10 GMT
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arsonist, align your crankshaft and just pull off that cambelt. Realign accordingly the camshaft ( being sure you have that little dot aligned with the head )and the intermediate shaft , reinstall the cambelt and give it a go. Put some fuel in the floatbowl and , normally, you have to hear at least some sputtering. If the valves are bent then I think you should feel some blockage when you turn the crankshaft by hand. I doubt it, I think those engines are no interference engines My 0.02 and sorry for my english
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Dec 29, 2015 17:00:07 GMT
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the right tension on the cambelt is when you can turn it 90 degrees with your fingers ( twist it) on the longest part of the belt ( alternator side )
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Are you happy that the engine timing is correct? If not this could show low compression maybe. No, I'm really not convinced the timing is correct. I'm fairly sure the crankshaft is aligned with the pistons, but I don't think the cam and valves or dizzy are properly lined up. Gonna have another look with the rocker cover off tomorrow, although still no idea how to tell if the cam is aligned! Also as for belt tension, yep it turns 90 degrees on its longest point, but no more without really trying. So I think the tension is about right!
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... Might have missed it but have you got a haynes manual ? If not Halfords or eBay asap ... Keep at it ... all part of the fun ! ... Honestly ?
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... Might have missed it but have you got a haynes manual ? If not Halfords or eBay asap ... Keep at it ... all part of the fun ! ... Honestly ? I do indeed, I've actually got the pre facelift and post-facelift version as quite a few important bits changed between 75 and 79. It's all over the place though and even info on timing is basic, e.g. it will say 'ensure the timing is correct on the crank pulley'. Gee, that's helpful!!...
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Ummm, that's not helpful, nothing in the section regarding the engine i.e. taking it apart and rebuilding it ...
Have you tried ukpassets website/ forum ?
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Last Edit: Jan 2, 2016 19:54:31 GMT by westbay
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Keep plugging away! Car looks well worth saving and will be a rare sight on our roads! No one on here nearby that can give it a once over?
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I've been stuck with this sort of thing before, definitely worth paying a professional an hours labour to give a definite diagnosis. I took my old passat to VW I got so desperate. An hours labour cost me Ā£85 but the problem was diagnosed very quickly and was easily fixed. If you do decide to give up, I would love to give it a good home! Best of luck. Try this site, if you're not already there I www.ukpassats.co.uk/phpbb/index.php
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Are you actually in Chester?
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Are you actually in Chester? Certainly am! Currently waiting for the rain to stop to I can get out and have another tinker!
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Boom!
Pulled the cam belt and set the camshaft and crank to TCD independently of each other with the rocker cover off. Set the belt back on, tightened, and tested for compression.
115 PSI across all 4 cylinders, with a very strong smell of easy start and petrol coming out with the pressure release valve! Still not starting, but I'm not 100% sure my dizzy is way off timing. Damn thing won't budge though, so I've soaked it in WD40 and will attack it again tomorrow.
It seems my dear great uncle might have been going slightly senile when he attempted to change the belt, as he's managed to cam, crank and dizzy all super out of synch. I'm also now thinking this engine must be non-interfearence, given that it's cranked so many times fully out of time, and clearly the valves have never impacted the pistons.
This is the biggest step forward for this car in 20+ years. Sadly, and rather fatefully, my great aunt passed away last night (who spent many hours and holidays in this car). I've now abandoned all thoughts of selling. This car will drive again!!!
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Great read so far, sorry to hear about your great aunt, but equally great news that you are making progress. Fingers crossed you can sort the timing and have her purring away in no time.
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Sorry to hear about your aunt..
Great news on the progress,strange in a way but the fact someone fitted the belt wrong and couldn't start it again probably preserved the car in the long run!
Those compression readings seem ok for a cold test.Once you get her running a warm test will give you maybe another 15-20 psi on each cylinder.
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And the saga continues.
Went to get the key out my pocket this evening to have another go at the distributor. No key. Gone. I've spent about 4 hours searching since I got home, nothing. Turned room upside down, even taken the mattress off the frame and checked inside the duvet sheet. Scoured the drive, emptied the boot of my fiesta; not a bean. It's vanished off the face of the earth. I've not left the house apart from going to work, and I wear totally different clothes for that. I also need the key to lock the car - physically impossible to lock it inside.
So, I'm pretty curse word off now. How do I go about getting a replacement key etc?
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Hate loosing keys. Do it all the time. Normally remember sticking them somewhere daft after a day or two. Some old vws let you lock them inside then hold the exterior door handle in the open position to shut it locked. Probably not advisable if there's no key though.
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Is there anything key related in the paper work?
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