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Apr 19, 2016 11:27:20 GMT
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I missed a load of updates on this - well done with the progress you've made so far. For bolts there is place on Sealand who do good quality bolts, if you know where CES is, turn into that road, go past the CES entrance and then just after the next right turn there is a good place for tools and bolts - the bolt entrance is on the front (can't remember the name off the top of my head which is really annoying since I get all sorts of bits and pieces from them). If you've had the 'stat in and out a few times you may need a smear of sealant around the mating faces of the housing to stop the leak. Will give them a go tonight cheers. As for sealant, what sort do I need do you know? And do they do coolant pipes, still got loads to change. Also just wrote a list. In no particular order; Cambelt change Oil change (have done one but I expect that's not the best now) Fan belt change? Front wiper blades fix - motor is very slow (maybe rusty joints?) Rear wiper jet blocked - almost no access so not sure how to fix All tyres changed Brakes don't work - flappy pedal Only 1st gear works Replace vacuum advanced lines New exhaust New coolant pipes - how do I access heater core pipes behind the metal bulkhead? Brake lights don't work Replace heater valve Seal thermo housing Minor rust spot repairs Tune carb? I think that's it...
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1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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Apr 19, 2016 11:43:26 GMT
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Last Edit: Apr 19, 2016 11:50:22 GMT by joem83
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Apr 19, 2016 11:44:53 GMT
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If the bolt head on the housing is rounded nip down to a hardware store and match up a bolt of the right length and thread.If it's supposed to be a 10mm head it will be an M6 bolt. ^^This. And for the heater valve: Single output ones should be readily available (Golf Mk1). This and a Y-piece should do the trick. Obviously the fan works now, so just for the record: The fan switch has nothing to do with the temp gauge. On old VWs, the switch is at the radiator. Just follow the cables from the fan.
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Apr 19, 2016 12:21:32 GMT
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List doesn't look too bad really.
The wipers are probably just a dry linkage,strip it out clean and lube. Rear washer jet you might be able to clear it in situ with a pin if it's just a blocked jet.
Brakes probably seals gone on the master cylinder or leaky wheel cylinders.You'll really want to refresh/renew most of the braking system including any heavily corroded metal pipes and flexi's too.
The heater pipe stubs through the bulkhead will be attached to the heater matrix.Unless they are damaged i would just replace the rubber pipes that connect to the stubs in the engine bay.
Brake lights if it's not bulbs or corroded bulb contacts will likely be the switch on the pedal.Not familiar with the one on the Passat but most you can take apart with a bit of care and clean up the contacts.
The puzzing one is only 1st gear working,what happens with the rest? Can you select the gear but no drive or just can't select at all?
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Apr 19, 2016 13:47:41 GMT
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List doesn't look too bad really. The wipers are probably just a dry linkage,strip it out clean and lube. Rear washer jet you might be able to clear it in situ with a pin if it's just a blocked jet. Brakes probably seals gone on the master cylinder or leaky wheel cylinders.You'll really want to refresh/renew most of the braking system including any heavily corroded metal pipes and flexi's too. The heater pipe stubs through the bulkhead will be attached to the heater matrix.Unless they are damaged i would just replace the rubber pipes that connect to the stubs in the engine bay. Brake lights if it's not bulbs or corroded bulb contacts will likely be the switch on the pedal.Not familiar with the one on the Passat but most you can take apart with a bit of care and clean up the contacts. The puzzing one is only 1st gear working,what happens with the rest? Can you select the gear but no drive or just can't select at all? From what I tested (only to the end of the drive, as no breaks), I can go from neutral into other gears, but they all pull away like first, even reverse. Also is it ok to use plastic y pieces for coolant? I'd have thought a stainless steel piece would be safer?
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Last Edit: Apr 19, 2016 13:48:57 GMT by arsonist
1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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Apr 19, 2016 16:13:19 GMT
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Weird,is neutral ok or does that have drive as well? I'd hazard a guess at either the linkage being the problem or the selector fork in the box itself.Hopefully the linkage as that would be simpler !It could be the linkage is detatched or so sloppy it's always in first and moving the stick is literally just moving the stick.
Stainless y piece would be fine as would the right kind of plastic.
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Weird,is neutral ok or does that have drive as well? I'd hazard a guess at either the linkage being the problem or the selector fork in the box itself.Hopefully the linkage as that would be simpler !It could be the linkage is detatched or so sloppy it's always in first and moving the stick is literally just moving the stick. Stainless y piece would be fine as would the right kind of plastic. Neutral is fine, has no pull whatsoever so pretty sure it's disengaging 1st. I can feel the usual clunking when trying different gears, they just don't seem to do much. I think really I need some safe open road and brakes to test this more fully!
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1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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Apr 22, 2016 17:36:20 GMT
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So last night I bought a 2 way heater valve which is for a jetta but looks the same. Need to wait till it arrives before I buy the y piece and corresponding pipe.
Also got myself some new yellow vacuum lines as mine are pretty nasty and blocked. Should look nice.
Also rather struggling with finding coolant pipes - my OEM ones are all discontinued and awkward sizes, e.g. 32mm outlet to 24mm inlet (just an example). Am I just going to have to buy pipes at one bore width, then get connection downsizes to fit? Probs the only way! Where's good for getting a variety of pipes and sizes?
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1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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taurus
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Re. the bolt you needed - I was down Bumpers Lane yesterday and checked the name of the place I mentioned - and now of course have forgotten it again! But it's something like GMS - you want their fastenings counter.
For awkward pipes I usually either bother the nice guys in CES who are very helpful and will look what they've got you can adapt. Or if you get stuck Demon Tweeks keep a wide range of silicon pipework - often in stupid colours which doesn't suit a classic engine bay - but I usually managed to sort things out with some form of home made reducer.
Running a Viva for which everything is discontinued it's amazing how often pipes come up on ebay - it's part of the fun searching for that elusive part. Also, have you joined a members club for the VW? That's often a good source of parts / advice for hard to sort items.
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Apr 26, 2016 23:02:27 GMT
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Thanks tarus Zero luck on a single hose - going with making some home style hoses using reducers and different bore pipes. Baby update for the moment otherwise! Got some bits delivered and on order; some new bright yellow vac lines, a variety of coolant pipes, y-pieces, reducers and clamps, a new heater valve that *hopefully* fits, and some new bolts for the thermo housing to stop the pesky leak. I'm praying once this lot goes in the engine can be ticked of, for the moment!
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1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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So I'm still plodding along with this. Though't I'd post one or two photos as this thread is text heavy! Rebuilt the entire fuel line system from tank to carb which is working great; Couldn't source a single new coolant pipe. I've cleaned up all the old ones I could get to and disposed of 3 that were looking rough as a precaution. Also sanded down the connectors on the engine block as they were lumpy as hell and would have made terrible seals. I've home brewed some pipes using a variety of different bore pipes and various reducers. All 3 pipes were awkward bores, e.g. a 24mm going into a 15mm, a 16 going into a 22. Bit of a pain but the reducers are all aluminium and seem to be holding far better than expected! Sourced a new heater valve too as the old one exploded boiling water over me while I was adjusting my dizzy timing - not the right valve though as the original is a 3-way valve and I could only source a 2-way one. So, I donned my Mario hat and become a temporary plumber. Also discovered the dash heater only kicked out cold air, so I assumed the heater matrix was dead, as the pipes were very crusty and brown! From this; To this; Again an of a job because the pipe going off towards the carb was 16mm and not the 22 coming out the y-piece, so another home-rigged reducer was made. Seems to be working well, and the new valve seems to have fixed my heater matrix issue - warm air at the dashboard, yay! There appeared to be no leaks - until she ran for several minutes and warmed up. The new bolts on the tstat housing were much easier to get on, but haven't stopped the leak. I've bought some flexible gasket sealant so will give that a crack tomorrow unless anyone has any better suggestions for slightly leaky housings! Not the worst leak in the world, but annoying nonetheless. Leak is the central rusty bolt (which has since been replaced, along with the hose clips). Also gave the back seat a shampoo and clean as it had gone mouldy (it was kept in a cupboard in the garage at my uncles house). Much nicer! One final shot of a *slightly* cleaner engine bay! Note the exciting new yellow vac lines! Once I've got the t'stat housing to stop leaking I will be moving onto fixing the brakes as they currently do nothing. I know ziltch about brakes so it might require some research and pulling things apart! Also still having no luck getting the car to go backwards in reverse, forward seems to be the only direction it will go! After some reading, I'm hoping it's just the linkage! (I think?) Cheers!
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Last Edit: May 4, 2016 22:52:34 GMT by arsonist
1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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taurus
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Looking good. Re. the brakes. First thing is to soak all the bleed nipples with penetrating oil and let it get well into them. Plusgas is the best - 90% of the time it does the job. For the other 10% my trick is to apply the Plusgas, wait a minute, then spray with WD40. The dispersant character seems to drive the Plusgas into the joint just that wee bit more. It has rarely failed - even on 40 year old Vauxhalls!
To replace the brake fluid easily use a Gunsons Eezibleed. I've got one handy so no need to buy your own - just let me know when you're getting near that stage. So long as the cap fits your master cylinder tank it's the best way to replace the fluid. (I work bonkers hours - including most weekends - so let me know in advance.)
Re. the water leak, I'd make a new gasket and use a smear of sealant. Don't go mad with it, any excess will squeeze out inside the joint and bits can break off which then get into the coolant system and may cause a blockage.
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Good progress so far well done. Gears- will most likely be linkage. thermostat housing- knowing vw that will be a standard size as used on most models of the era. you should get a new gasket from ecp or gsf , try one for a Golf. I had the stat housing crack on my scirocco and fitted a replacement which was plastic for the Golf Mk3. They didn't change much unless they had to. There are two types of gasket, one is an o ring type the other is flat profile and sits around the circumference of the stat.
Brakes- I assume its got ancient fluid which will have gone off and absorbed water. As already stated you may have to replace a lot of components but try replacing the fluid first. You may have to do it a couple of times to flush through the system
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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Just looked on ETKA and the thermostat o ring appears bog standard 50x4 mm as used on pretty much everything up to 1997.
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Needs a bigger hammer mate.......
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I have had success with flat gasket kits that you cut the shape yourself from a large square of material. A little sealant smeared around the gasket surfaces should seal things up nicely. some sealants direct you to coat both sides and wait for a set period of time, then assemble and snug down waiting to torque to specs from 1-3 hours later or whatever the directions say.
I like the work you have done here....very tidy and neat for a home spun job.
Duggers has it spot on about the brakes, too....you may have to flush things out with a vacuum bleeder kit. you can work each caliper until clear fluid comes out...this may take a while and extra fluid....or it might not be so bad....
keep at it...nice job
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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May 10, 2016 12:27:19 GMT
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Thanks guys. Really not had much time on this recently, busy with work. The o-ring was brand new so I know that wasn't the problem. I pulled the 'stat again and found why it was leaking. I give you exhibit A The housing was crusty and badly pitted, quite a large dink in it too which is where it look to be leaking from. The surface on the pump (where this bolts into) was also quite bad. I spent an hour or so in some very awkward positions with some 80 grit and wet and dry, eventually got a nice smooth finish. You can see the heavy pit mark. I didn't want to grind any lower incase I caused further problems. Picked up some gasket sealant instead and gave a light coat in the hole, plus round the o-ring surface just to help. Left this to cure over the weekend, filled up with water last night and the leaks have all gone So, other than a cambelt change, the ENGINE IS DONE! (Until the next thing breaks!) Also jacked the car up at the front to have a gander at the breaks. The wheels were an to get off, but some penetrating fluid did the job. Can someone tell me what I'm looking at? I know it's a disk break (lol), but I've no idea how anything comes off. No obvious bolts etc. I did pull out the front pad and some pins, but nothing else would budge. Haynes is being useless again with phrases like 'simply slide the spreader off'. What's a spreader, how do I slide it off, which way does it go, why won't it budge? Etc etc... I think once I know how it's supposed to come off I will be fine, but if things are seized on, it's hard to tell (when you don't know what you're doing) it it's even supposed to come off in the first place. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm assuming all wheels etc have to come off to bleed the break lines? I think I've identified the nipples but I don't know what to do with them (fnar fnar fnar...) Also as a cheeky bonus, here's a pic of my seat belt clips. I've never seen them like this before, was quite confused when I first tried them!
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May 10, 2016 13:03:25 GMT
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The spreader is just the spring that holds the pads off the disc, looks like you've already got that bit off To take the caliper off there should be two M10 bolts that go through the caliper in to the back of the hub, then to get the disc off its just a case of undoing that little cross head screw in the front of the disc. Might need an impact driver for that...
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May 10, 2016 13:15:12 GMT
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Love the progress you are making on this car. For a novice, you are diving right in and tackling some difficult issues. ....(though by now you are past the "novice" stage). Glad you stopped the leak at the T-stat housing....I would get a spare housing for future "just in case"...that one is rusty around the base to the point of the material there being possibly structurally compromised. Its not an urgent priority, but it should be replaced at some point. as for the brakes, Penetrating oil on the right places will help you immensely. basically, there should be pins holding the pads in place. the pads should be able to move slightly on the pins when you apply the brakes, and then again when you let off the brakes. (they only move a few mills back and forth) There should be a retaining device, or a clip(s) for the caliper (the thing that holds the pads). Once off, the caliper SHOULD slide off...but you will probably have to work it loose with a prybar from both the top and bottom a little at a time until it begins to loosen and move up away from the disc. There will be one more pad behind the disc which may be holding everything in place a bit..... There will also be 2 retaining bolts for the caliper mount (the thing that, well, holds the caliper) These bolts are on the BACK of the wheel assy. or behind the disk as you are looking at it. they will need the penetrating oil. (you do not HAVE to remove this, unless you want to get the disc off) lightly sand the pads (don't breathe the dust) so they are clean and smooth. you can use roughish sandpaper for this leaving the pads with a slight texture....just so long as they are not sanded with fine paper...you don't want shiny pads!....Same for the rotors...they should look very clean. I like to get the discs off, (there is a screw on the front hub part of the disc that holds it in place. more penetrating oil! I have found that an impact screw driver is best for these as they can be a challenge to break loose). clean them up with a wire wheel, and spray the non contact surfaces with galvanizing compound our high temp paint. Galvanizing compound seems to resist rust much better, though. Paint the caliper mount with your choice of silver or yellow for some flash...they will look great. here is our passat (06). It looked quite like yours do before the painting. the rotor is holding up quite well, as is the mount. The caliper gets dirty, though! Also, do yourself a favor and use some silver thread compound on all your wheel bolts. (just a little) as it will allow proper torque and removal of the bolts in future. keep up the good work...looks great! Jp
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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taurus
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May 10, 2016 16:32:54 GMT
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Tip for removing rusted on disc - don't try to knock them off, knock them on. Try it, it works! A couple of taps knocking the discs onto the hubs breaks the rust seal far better than trying to batter them off.
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May 11, 2016 20:56:11 GMT
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Thanks guys, great advice! Only got an hour or so tonight to have a look again. Both tyres off now, no luck in getting the disks off though, deffo need an impact driver for that. One disk is also missing the retaining screw on the front of the disk so I will need a replacement for that once I know what spec the screw is. Both disks look in good nick though so will just clean them up, but buy new pads. I also decided to see if bleeding the breaks did anything so remove the bleed nipple and slightly unscrewed the pin...a bit of hissing, then splurged through some very clear yellow fluid, no gunk whatsoever in there and was quite runny. I was curious so fired the engine up and applied the break - a small jet of break fluid came out. I closed the pin/nipple up (I was wearing gloves and was very careful not to get fluid on the car at all) and tested the break again while running. The piston eeked out by a few mill each time I pumped the pedal - this was on both front disks. I'm led to believe the breaks my in fact be working well still! My only problem now is where I've tested the break piston without callipers/pads etc on the disk, the pistons are now hard up against the disk and I can't get them back to try and reassemble. Is there a knack for this or have I broken them? I assume there's a way. I did notice one piston started to leak a bit out the back by the rubber seal, so not sure if I've put it under too much pressure and split something, or it once it's pushed back it will sort itself out? Is this all a case of getting new pads, cleaning the disks, reassembling and testing it out? Or do I deffo need to do more? Any comments would be much appreciated. Thanks Also sorry for no photos, my phone died today
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1979 Mk1 Passat Estate 1.6 LS 1996 Mk3.5 Fiesta 1.3 Classic 1997 Mk1 MX5 1.8i 2005 Mazda 3 TS
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