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Apr 14, 2016 18:14:27 GMT
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I remember the neighbors complaining when I had my last V8 with four branches and twin 3" stainless pipes especially at 5.30 am I had to roll it down the hill then start it. My last V8 was built by Dave Porters racing team mechanic, 3.5 with 3.9 injection off a Range Rover that was chipped etc, It was extremely quick. The gearbox I had was an LT77 with 2/3rd gears from a Sherpa diesel fitted pulled like a train and literally wiped the floor with all the boy racers in the area. Sourcing parts myself for my 6 pot, with its engine in bits while I sort the head gasket then onto welding and paint. I'm after an off side rear arch repair panel if you ever come across one, managed to land a ns off eBay last week.
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1984 Rover SD1 Vanden Plas 2600 Auto 1985 Rover SD1 2300s Auto 2005 MG ZT 1.8 Manual
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sowen
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Apr 14, 2016 21:33:40 GMT
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I remember the neighbors complaining when I had my last V8 with four branches and twin 3" stainless pipes especially at 5.30 am I had to roll it down the hill then start it. My last V8 was built by Dave Porters racing team mechanic, 3.5 with 3.9 injection off a Range Rover that was chipped etc, It was extremely quick. The gearbox I had was an LT77 with 2/3rd gears from a Sherpa diesel fitted pulled like a train and literally wiped the floor with all the boy racers in the area. Sourcing parts myself for my 6 pot, with its engine in bits while I sort the head gasket then onto welding and paint. I'm after an off side rear arch repair panel if you ever come across one, managed to land a ns off eBay last week. There's got to be something about the sportier SD1 exhaust manifolds because even my old Land Rover V8 with a straight through 2.5" side exit was never as loud! I'm certain I've got a Land Rover cam in my SD1 now as that's what I would've bought all those years ago for my last V8 and salvaged it when I parted the engine out. I think it's hurt the top end performance but on a little rolling road session it made about 170bhp as is and needing some more fine tuning to the fuel and ignition tables. With a higher compression, mild cam and spot on fueling I reckon it could possibly get close to the 200bhp mark. I've never seen any repair panels for the SD1, only nos replacement panels from Rimmer's. My rear arches are bubbling and it's had some bodywork repairs on one side in the past so my plan is take the whole rear outer off and put a new one on, save rubbing it all down!
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Apr 14, 2016 22:17:30 GMT
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Great to see an update. Will you be heading to pride of longbridge Saturday?
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jikovron
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Re the higher ratio 5th, i spotted an anomaly in that to accomadate different ratios without casing clearancing issues the 0.77 5th of a vitesse can be changed to 0.63 ish via the usage of a van gear pair I'm not sure if the r380 has the same issue
The reason for the strange gear setup is that the van gearbox has a lower ratio input to the layshaft and a slightly higher 5th ratio to end up short of a cars fifth so in the lt77 case fitting a car/petrol 5th gearset to a van box would see a 1:1ish fifth
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sowen
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Re the higher ratio 5th, i spotted an anomaly in that to accomadate different ratios without casing clearancing issues the 0.77 5th of a vitesse can be changed to 0.63 ish via the usage of a van gear pair I'm not sure if the r380 has the same issue The reason for the strange gear setup is that the van gearbox has a lower ratio input to the layshaft and a slightly higher 5th ratio to end up short of a cars fifth so in the lt77 case fitting a car/petrol 5th gearset to a van box would see a 1:1ish fifth I never would've thought of that on the LT77, but yes does make sense! I have a suffix G LT77 from a van and the input shaft from a Land Rover was a direct fit, and from memory the saloon LT77's have a completely different set of ratios. As far as I can tell the van and 4x4 R380's share the basic gearsets/ratios too, I guess I won't 110% know for sure until I pull it apart...
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Hows this SD1 coming along? Did you fit the Audi lump?
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1984 Rover SD1 Vanden Plas 2600 Auto 1985 Rover SD1 2300s Auto 2005 MG ZT 1.8 Manual
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Anything further happened on this?
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Sept 17, 2017 10:05:18 GMT
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Drove past you place on Tuesday and was wondering what had happened with this project. Is the turbo for the rover v8 or the Audi v8?
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sowen
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Sept 17, 2017 10:12:56 GMT
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Drove past you place on Tuesday and was wondering what had happened with this project. Is the turbo for the rover v8 or the Audi v8? Rover V8, going to build up a spare crossbolt and drop that into place. Low spare funds and lack of free time for the past few years has almost completely killed off all progress on my projects , but I started a new job beginning of this month so all going well I'll have money and time once again Also need to re-upload my pics onto some other site that won't do another PB?
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Sept 17, 2017 10:58:44 GMT
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I've been using imgur which is pretty reliable for photo hosting. Glad to see progress. I might be interested in your old engine if it is a vitesse block.
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sowen
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Sept 17, 2017 11:10:27 GMT
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I'll have a look, don't recall hearing much bad about imgur, maybe something about the lack of albums unless that was another hosting site?
Keeping the little 3.5, it's a cracker of an engine, nothing wrong with it apart from being a stock 3.5 that won't take to boost as happily as a crossbolt 4.0 lump!
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sowen
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Sept 17, 2017 11:27:01 GMT
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Hotwire's uploader seems alright, not sure how many pics I could spam it with though! Just need a couple of little jobs doing to start it up, welding the lambda plug into the downpipe and fitting the oil feed and return pipes. Though I'm toying with the idea of just ripping the 3.5 straight out to put the 4.0 in to save wasting time on something that's coming straight out again?
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Last Edit: Sept 17, 2017 11:27:46 GMT by sowen
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Blimey I know you said you have big plans but I didnt expect that, Thats gonna be very lively with that turbo. I reckon fit the 4.0 to save time
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1984 Rover SD1 Vanden Plas 2600 Auto 1985 Rover SD1 2300s Auto 2005 MG ZT 1.8 Manual
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sowen
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My 4.0 is sat on the engine stand, and a new camshaft came through the post today. I think I have all of the seals and gaskets for it now, only big jobs left being to refit all of the valves in the heads, bolt them down and make a custom sump to suit the serpentine timing cover and SD1. Then in theory it's roll the SD1 off the trailer, pull the 3.5 out, swap the flywheel over, bolt the 4.0 in, put the manifolds on then fire it up and drive back onto the trailer out of the way
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ivangt6
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Mar 10, 2018 21:56:07 GMT
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Those wheels look great! I think they're the same ones I'm looking at getting for my Range Rover. I never thought of using them like that on a road car. Do these have the same PCD as land rover Disco 1 and RangeRover classics?
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sowen
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Those wheels look great! I think they're the same ones I'm looking at getting for my Range Rover. I never thought of using them like that on a road car. Do these have the same PCD as land rover Disco 1 and RangeRover classics? These are Jeep Grand Cherokee fitment, 5x127, but the same basic wheel design that you can get for Land Rover's which I now have a few sets of! On the heavy side for a road car, but a small price to pay for a durable budget wheel that allows for cheap performance tyres to be fitted....
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sowen
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Mar 14, 2018 19:52:43 GMT
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And then there were 5 16x8 steelies Now to commit and decide if I'll try changing the offset by re-welding the wheel centres to suit the SD1 or not? They are 5" backspace, and I think I only need to move the rim in another 1/2", and there looks to be just enough flat surface on the rim well to move the centre out by that much to give the required 5.5" backspace. It's been a few years since I did the last set, time to clear a space on the garage floor and ready the grinder!
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