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If you drive a car, please read - Sarah Kennedy was talking about this proposed car tax scheme on Radio 2. Apparently there is only one month left to register your objection to the 'Pay As You Go' road tax. The petition is on the 10 Downing St website but they didn't tell anybody about it. Therefore at the time of Sarah's comments only 250,000 people had signed it and 750,000 signatures are required for the goverment to at least take any notice. Once you've given your details (you don't have to give your full address, just house number and postcode will do), they will send you an email with a link in it. Once you click on that link, you'll have signed the petition. The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use it. The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery driver. A non working mother who used the car to take the kids to school paid £86 in one month. On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit in time you can probably expect a Notice of Intended Prosecution with your monthly bill. If you are concerned about this Orwellian plan and want to stop the constant bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website (link below) and pass this on to as many people as possible. Sign up if you value your freedom and democratic rights - petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax |
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Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350 |
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Hirst
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This avatar is inaccurate, I've never shaved that closely
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Feb 10, 2007 11:10:41 GMT
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Over a million signatures now. Ooh!
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Feb 10, 2007 11:38:27 GMT
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Feb 10, 2007 12:13:20 GMT
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hahah, only found it this morning...thought it may have been up before but must have missed it.
The more exposure the better tho!!
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Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350 |
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Feb 10, 2007 12:32:09 GMT
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Feb 10, 2007 13:49:44 GMT
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Pole tax springs to mind... if no one pays what can they do?
Like Pog said before, There will be a lot off people priced out of travelling to and from work. Remember: the pay is wibblepoo but the hours are great on the dole!
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Feb 10, 2007 14:19:40 GMT
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well I'm not gonna buy a box, or pay it.
BRING ON THE ROADBLOCKS!!!
ill be there....revvin the F*uck out of my engine, putting to rest all their silly emmisions hopes and dreams
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Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350 |
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slater
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Feb 10, 2007 14:31:56 GMT
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You would have to be seriously retarded to even consider paying it so it wont work.
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Feb 10, 2007 14:34:23 GMT
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Yes i'll be there, bring on the road blocks!  What a bunch of Thick C0cks!  they have time to rid this crappy idea before it gets embarassing for them when our country is ridiculed for either strangling blocks and riots, or just a cripled and funked up economy and prospects. See ya at the blocks even if i'm on foot.... |
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts  |
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Feb 10, 2007 14:37:22 GMT
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You would have to be seriously retarded to even consider paying it so it wont work. They have ways of enforcing these things like everything else. Look at council tax rises, road tax VAT Income tax, road laws, speed cameras, all of it, however this is a little bit big bang. they should of learnt at fuel blockades, they didnt they just had a bit of a break... Unity. |
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Feb 10, 2007 14:38:15 GMT
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wont they probably make not having one a criminal offence though? and issue you with fines etc?
i suppose if everyone who has signed the petion ignores the fines they can't do a lot though.... ?
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slater
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Feb 10, 2007 14:42:49 GMT
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I don't care, id happly have a criminal record to help prevent it.
The point is if everone says NO then it dosent happen. They cant throw us all in jail! hell they probably couldent even throw 0.009% of us in jail as theres no curse word space!
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Feb 10, 2007 14:43:52 GMT
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I agree, but do you think everyone will say no ?
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Feb 10, 2007 15:05:44 GMT
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ill certainly say no this is stupid.
by the time youve paid fuel costs and parking and driven to work and back, the amount you got paid for the day will be £40 and the amount you pay in driving there will be £50.
I'm not paying £10 to goto work!
about time we all sent our logbooks to the DVLA saying SCRAPPED and carry on driving - just not paying for mot's, speed tickets, tax discs, insurance, etc and risk the £200 fine.
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Feb 10, 2007 19:22:43 GMT
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well i wonder if our classics will still be tax exempt? i doubt it tbh.
i wont put a box in my cars, and i wont pay the bills, i wont pay the fines and i WILL drive on the roads
Maybe they're doing this to make up for the lost revenue from the impending smoking ban!!
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Your car is not 'epic', this thread is not 'epic'....the OCEAN is epic, the UNIVERSE is epic.... please stop misusing this word!! It would appear Hotrods are the new VWs - aint fashion funny! '69 BUICK LESABRE 350 |
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Feb 11, 2007 21:45:27 GMT
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well I wonder if our classics will still be tax exempt? I doubt it tbh. The cynic in me thinks that this tracking system will be how they will try to restrict the use of historic vehicles  |
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Feb 12, 2007 17:35:05 GMT
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Boy, I wish I lived in Soviet Russia, so much personal freedom.
Ive got a sneaking suspiscion that this road pricing lark wont go ahead. The govenrnment will get to the 11th hour with "implementing" it then have a sudden change of heart and bring in some other cash generating scam instead that isnt as harsh like double road tax or fuel tax or similar. The general public will be so relieved on not being taxed to death by road pricing that we'l welcome the new laws thinking weve had a lucky escape. Its all about manipulation and CONTROL.......
Where the friggin hell is all this money they're stealing off us going to anyway?
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.  |
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Feb 12, 2007 19:13:11 GMT
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the annoying is that email they are supposed to send
never arrives to me for some reason !!!
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Feb 12, 2007 19:34:32 GMT
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the annoying is that email they are supposed to send never arrives to me for some reason !!! oh good it's not just me then ! Looks like giving up work because it's too expensive to travel there is the only good thing to come out of it ! And what about recycling  I'm buggered if i'm using valuable miles going to the tip to recycle all my bottles,scrap,carboard ect so they will be doing more harm to the enviroment....tits ! |
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Just a modern....but surrounded every day by Porsche's !
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Feb 12, 2007 19:43:07 GMT
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the recycling issue comes in too when these electronic spy boxes a made by the billions! do we need them? No!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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I'm buggered if i'm using valuable miles going to the tip to recycle all my bottles,scrap,carboard ect so they will be doing more harm to the enviroment....tits !