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Thanks Adam, it must be something to do with this car being invisible, even the marshals were not giving the blue lights to drivers as I approached them. In another session a car blew up on the straight ahead of me or something blew spraying fluid and steam from the nearside front, I backed off and put my hazards on to warn of fluid on the circuit to cars behind but the marshals missed it, no flags or lights and the drivers behind flew past me so I left them all to it and pitted for a break that lap as my brakes were at the floor by then anyway. I will make a short compilation vid of that incident and a few others from the day. I will check the brakes mechanically first to make sure it is not something else but suspect it is the fluid and upgrade to something more heat resistant They're not used to a big old barge like that going so fast or handling so well - probably have forgotten that the old Vitesses were Police pursuit vehicles back in the day!Keep up the good work.
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored Rover 75 - Barge MGZTT Cdti 160+ - Winter Hack and Audi botherer... MGF - The Golden Shot...Stored Project Minion........ Can you see the theme?
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Aug 19, 2016 17:27:13 GMT
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enjoying a refresh/catchup on your thread been watching the 2015 track day vids too, you can tell just from "passenger" ride the difference the new higher lb front springs made. excellent developments of the car, enjoyable to watch and read what the transmission on these guys, cant remember it being mentioned. is it still on open diff ? just off to watch the july '16 vid
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Aug 21, 2016 11:54:22 GMT
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Thanks 10mpg, your right Marinanut and the Police would have tested all suitable vehicles for the job and chose the big old barge of an 800 as the best for the job, cheers Thanks Darren, very hard suspension terrible on our poor roads but so much better on the smooth track. The Vitesse has a PG1 gearbox with limited slip diff as standard, hope you enjoy the most recent vid, it was the most fun so far. I have changed the brake fluid throughout but the clutch pedal didnt feel so good at first, better now its been driven. I need to bleed the brakes again though, it felt fine in the garage but driving on the road the pedal isnt as firm so suspect there is still a little bit of air in the system. Exhaust is done, sounds quite a bit louder, sounds nice at idle and low rpm but becomes quite loud when driving, it has a rasp at about 3000rpm which I am not sure about but need to drive it some more and see if I can get used to it and check the noise level, I guess it is probably over the limit at some track days. Rather over complicated rear mount and untidy boot floor, none of which you would normally see. Gone for the brushed stainless tailpipe look.
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Sept 14, 2016 15:20:53 GMT
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Nice to meet you. Was certainly surprised when you popped the bonnet. Definitely a sleeper!
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Cheers quackshot, hoping the weather will be as good next month. Picture update On a BMW forecourt taunting the old enemy.
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I know which I'd rather have.
(For anyone in doubt... NOT the BMW)
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vitessetony
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Absolutely amazing car, I miss mine terribly I wish I had never sold it, even as it drove away I knew I had made a big mistake Hang onto it, as you obviously know they are brilliant capable cars with bucket loads of character and a rare sight these days with so many scrapped for the engine
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Thank you. Yes they just seemed to all disappear in a year or two, maybe thats what happens with all models. I was sat behind a Rover 600 this week and realized its just happened to them too. There is still the odd 800 for sale but you are very lucky now to find a really good one and the prices are creeping up. Like most 90's cars electronics were starting to take over a lot of the cars functions with ABS and emissions control, unlike most 80's and earlier a lot more is mechanical and generally cheaper and easier to repair, but bodywork of the moderns is less prone to corrosion so it probably balances out on running costs. Then you get to the very new stuff and they are just cast plastic, characterless, computers.....anyway enough waffling, what I was getting to is if you can find one and maintain it yourself and be prepared for the odd expensive sensor or part every now and then, now might be a good investment. Thanks again.
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you could assume that it was 2005 longbridge saga, but then it seems to have happened to models from companies that still exist. i mean when was the last time you saw a mk3 cavalier trundling round your home town ? its an odd thought, we've had the discussion a few times, will people be enthusing about vectra B's in 10 years time with fond memories? it doesnt seem possible !
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you could assume that it was 2005 longbridge saga, but then it seems to have happened to models from companies that still exist. i mean when was the last time you saw a mk3 cavalier trundling round your home town ? its an odd thought, we've had the discussion a few times, will people be enthusing about vectra B's in 10 years time with fond memories? it doesnt seem possible ! It's an interesting point, I guess for the younger generation who will grow up with modern vehicles and the level of fit and finish/gadgets that have now been achieved, a vectra B or similar might hold some sought of nostalgic draw to a simpler less complex time? To the older generation who remember the Vectra coming out and being very commonplace on the road it still seems like a modern car. I mean look at those door mirrors! very futuristic! Maybe part of the draw to cars like the Vectra in a few years will be scarcity, I doubt they'll be many left on the road as these days its easy to lease new cars and people are less inclined to fix something they see now as a modernish cheap car? Time will tell?
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Oct 16, 2016 14:21:31 GMT
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you could assume that it was 2005 longbridge saga, but then it seems to have happened to models from companies that still exist. i mean when was the last time you saw a mk3 cavalier trundling round your home town ? its an odd thought, we've had the discussion a few times, will people be enthusing about vectra B's in 10 years time with fond memories? it doesnt seem possible ! It's an interesting point, I guess for the younger generation who will grow up with modern vehicles and the level of fit and finish/gadgets that have now been achieved, a vectra B or similar might hold some sought of nostalgic draw to a simpler less complex time? To the older generation who remember the Vectra coming out and being very commonplace on the road it still seems like a modern car. I mean look at those door mirrors! very futuristic! Maybe part of the draw to cars like the Vectra in a few years will be scarcity, I doubt they'll be many left on the road as these days its easy to lease new cars and people are less inclined to fix something they see now as a modernish cheap car? Time will tell? Good points, this could be a significant era in the history of the motor car, with leasing the modern characterless cars becoming easier and more popular as well as electric and hybrids, less and less cars will end up left in garages and driveways for years, they will simply be recycled.
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The Rover has been tucked away in the garage gathering dust and filling up with junk since last year so long overdue some attention. The exhaust manifold looks horrible, been meaning to replace it for years but quotes of £1500 for a custom manifold made it difficult to justify and nothing is available for these engines so going to have a go at adapting a £200 Nissan manifold to fit the Rover. The once white manifold and turbo outlet, looked okay many years ago but not now. The Nissan 200/Silvia SR20DET manifold Most of the flange cut away, I need to keep it at the pipes to clear the cam carrier. Stainless steel Rover M16 flange. Not a perfect match, the inner two almost match but the outer pipes will need moving. The flange was not a good match to the ports either so used the gasket to match it up. Using clamps and grips managed to line it all up and tack it together for a test fit. Quite a good match in the end with port size and shape although a couple of the original flange to primary joints in the Nissan manifold are pretty poor, guess this is why it is £200 and not £1500 Test fit with turbo fitted, turbo much to far forward but outlet is at sharp angle and will need moving anyway Bonnet clearance is good So started welding it together, I am not an experienced welder and took a few goes to get the amperage to what seemed to work best and struggled a bit with access, anyway made what is obviously an amateur mistake and the flange warped after the first bit of welding. I since looked up some tips and now clamp the flange to a heavy steel bar and keep the welds short and allow it to cool before next weld, this has prevented any more warping but it will need a skim when finished. My chunky TIG welds, any constructive comments welcome from experienced welders. I ran out of gas before I could finish so will update soon
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i think you are doing fine ! good move chopping the turbo flange off, i guess now you can make it more horizontal and "clock" the turbo more towards the engine block away from radiator and fan etc ?
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Thanks Darren, thats the plan and to make space for the downpipe. I underestimated how much bigger an adapter and 3" downpipe is over the standard cast unit, I need to have a rethink.
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One trick when welding up the manifold is to weld the flange 'plate' to a steel bench. That stops warping and can be unpicked. Nice work though and certainly satisfying making one far cheaper than buying one.
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damn, that turbo elbow is savage ! i thought the calibra one was bad
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Oct 10, 2017 17:16:04 GMT
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One trick when welding up the manifold is to weld the flange 'plate' to a steel bench. That stops warping and can be unpicked. Nice work though and certainly satisfying making one far cheaper than buying one. Thanks cavboy. Nice idea, I noticed on many of the manifold welding vids they use a turn plate so they can rotate the work as they go, I might look at making something to mount it on and fix it in a swivel vice. Darren they are probably not that bad for the standard engines considering the tight space the Vauxhall and Rover designers had to work with, the bore size does look restrictive though with bigger turbos and more power, at least cast iron parts seem to last forever. Talking to someone about building something like the front part of this instead of the separate adapter and downpipe.
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Oct 10, 2017 17:26:41 GMT
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noice ! so i take it the actual hole into the elbow lines up with the exhaust turbine, and the flatter taper area is the waste gate ? which is actyally less bad
your new downpipe looks good (with incorporated flange) there is a similar version for opel called DSOP, which has twin pipes that merge shortly after. one for exhaust turbine with internal baffle and one for wastegate. its considered quite an upgrade on the stock turbo, but same as you packaging issues with the exhaust bends
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Inspired by nalesutol's lightweight Lotus Elan build and his use of titanium I replaced the plain black steel cap head seat bolts and washers with blue titanium torx bolts and washers, saving about 50g per seat. Not much of a saving on a 1300kg car, but they look pretty, this could be a slippery slope.
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